Who do you think you are kidding...

[Gob]

Hey brain dead.

Alienating your EU partners is the same as alienating NATO:


Hatred makes you both stupid.


yrs,
rubato

Opting out of the EU affects in now way the UK membership and participation in NATO.

So the UK opts out of the EU, and continues working on issues of common interest with the EU, via it's long term, (foundation membership,) of NATO, and all is well.

Do you actually think before posting, Aspergers boy? (This is a rhetorical question.)

You claim hatred makes us stupid, but hatred is a transient and temporary emotion. For you however, stupidity is your actuality, and a function of your genetic make-up.

[Lord Jim]

Hey brain dead.

Alienating your EU partners is the same as alienating NATO:

Oh dear me, I see someone still hasn't had a visit from The Reading Comprehension Fairy...

And apparently even putting it in large bold type didn't help you...

There is not one word in that article that in anyway backs up that assertion, (even laying aside your false premise that Brexit must equal "alienating" the countries that remain in the EU) or your even more ignorant earlier assertion that the EU is "the very group you will depend on most for security".

Nor is there one single word in that article that disproves my factual assertion:

the group primarily responsible for European security isn't called the European Union...

It's called the North Atlantic Treaty Organization...

In fact quite the opposite. The article affirms NATO as the primary European military security organization. Mainly what it talks about is that NATO and the EU have a good working relationship, (that's hardly surprising) but it also says:

Non-EU European Allies make a significant contribution to these efforts.

Brexit would not effect British security or its position in NATO one iota, and there is nothing in that article that says otherwise.

So rube, if your purpose in posting that was to convey:

"Just in case anyone here had any doubt, I wanted to provide further proof that I am completely ignorant of what the EU is and what it does, and completely ignorant of what NATO is and what it does, and that Lord Jim is 100% correct in his assertions about this and I am 100% wrong in my mine"...

Then congratulations...You succeeded brilliantly...

If you had any other purpose in mind

[Lord Jim]

Boris Johnson Mocks Prime Minister and His ‘Brexit’ Stance

LONDON—The two most high-profile figures from both sides of the U.K.’s European Union referendum intensified their campaigns Monday, with Prime Minister David Cameron arguing that leaving risked peace and stability, while former London Mayor Boris Johnson mocked the speech and attempted to woo urban liberal voters.

The pair of speeches signaled an attempt by both sides to reach out to voters that may have so far been attracted by the opposing camp. Mr. Cameron, who is leading the push to remain in the EU ahead of next month’s vote on Britain’s continued membership, sought to counter arguments used by his opponents that effectively equate wanting to stay in the EU as a sign of lack of patriotism.

For his part, Mr. Johnson sought to convince urban voters, who pollsters say generally favor remaining, that a vote to leave didn’t run counter to their values generally. Mr. Johnson, a lawmaker in Mr. Cameron’s Conservative Party, also mocked the prime minister’s comments that leaving the EU could pose a threat to Britain’s security.

Mr. Cameron’s rival Mr. Johnson, one of the leaders of the campaign for Britain’s exit, rebutted the prime minister’s arguments in his own speech, given at the headquarters in London of the official group leading the campaign to leave.

“I don’t think the prime minister can seriously believe that leaving the EU would trigger war on the European continent, given that he was prepared, only a few months ago, to urge that ​people should vote leave if they failed to get a substantially reformed European Union,” he said, referring to the package of changes Mr. Cameron secured in February to the U.K.’s relationship with the bloc. ​”I think it very, very curious that the prime minister is now calling this referendum and warning us that World War III is about to break out unless we vote to remain.”

On the contrary, Mr. Johnson said the EU’s anti-democratic tendencies are a force for instability.

Mr. Johnson also sought to dispel the accusation that those who want to leave the EU are narrow-minded, anti European and against globalization. Mr. Johnson said it was a myth that people can’t be both liberal cosmopolitans and in favor of Britain’s exit, known here as Brexit.

“I can read novels in French and I can sing the Ode to Joy in German,” he said, breaking out into song. “So I find it offensive, insulting, irrelevant and positively cretinous to be told—sometimes by people who can barely speak a foreign language—that I belong to a group of small-minded xenophobes; because the truth is that it is Brexit that is now the great project of European liberalism.”

He said those that want to leave the EU are the ones who want a global, free-trading Britain and not to be subject to an “undemocratic system” responsible for low growth

“It is the EU that has changed out of all recognition; and to keep insisting that the EU is about economics is like saying the Italian mafia is interested in olive oil and real estate,” Mr. Johnson said.

Johnson rebuffed claims made by British Prime Minister David Cameron that a “Brexit” would make the country less safe, saying it is NATO and not the EU that has “underpinned peace in Europe.”

The former London mayor said that to claim a vote to leave would imperil peace in Europe, as Cameron did that morning, “grossly underestimates the way Europe has changed and the NATO guarantee that in reality has underpinned peace in Europe.”

“I saw the disaster when the EU was charged with sorting out former Yugoslavia,” he added, “and I saw how NATO sorted it out.”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/boris-johns ... ?mg=id-wsj

Right on Boris!