George Zimmerman is an Idiot

[Lord Jim]

I've tried a couple of times to go to unitedgungroup.com to see how the bidding is going, but have been timed out...

As tasteless as this is, I'll be surprised if ultimately he doesn't get at least his asking price for this from someone...probably more...

Especially now, with all the publicity it's getting.. .

[kmccune]

What a numbskull .

[BoSoxGal]

Apparently the auction has been hijacked by protesters and the current bidding is like $65 million.

George Zimmerman is a tool.

[kristina]

George Zimmerman is a tool.

bsg, that's probably one of the nicest things anyone could say about him.

[BoSoxGal]

You're right, I take it back.

The hijacker who ran up the bidding on the gun used the name 'Racist McShootFace'

[Lord Jim]

Here's the link to the auction page:

http://www.unitedgungroup.com/auction/d ... ed-2-26-12

Mr. McShootface's bid has been deleted, but for some reason $65,039,000 is still showing as the "Current Price", even though if you click on the "Bid History" tab, it shows the current top bid at a modest $485,000....

UPDATE:

John Smith has just come in with a bid of $65,044,000.00!

[Joe Guy]

"Cousin Rapist" now holds the top bid at $65,371,500.00 ...

[Lord Jim]

Mr. Orenthal Simpson is now on top with a bid of $65,391,700.00...

This is so exciting!

[Scooter]

And now there's a bid by Trayvon Martin. Hmmmm.

[Scooter]

Oh, Orenthal Simpson has just significantly upped the ante.

[Lord Jim]

Orenthal ain't the sharpest bulb on the tree; he's bidding up the price against himself...

It looks like that $485,000 bid by "Brez Morrell" may be legit...

If you look through the comments, he's very pro Zimmerman...

That could also be a put on, but there are some rich nutcases out there....

[Scooter]

there are some rich nutcases out there....

Yeah, I don't think you need to look further than this year's presidential election to find at least one of those

[Lord Jim]

there are some rich nutcases out there....

Yeah, I don't think you need to look further than this year's presidential election to find at least one of those

Donald Trump $65,457,000.00

[Scooter]

[BoSoxGal]

It's funny but seriously sickening too - last time he auctioned off his 'artwork' for $100k. He's making money from manslaughter.

[Scooter]

Oh, that he is doing it is sickening, but how people have managed to fuck up his attempt to profit from murdering* a young man is definitely worth a chuckle at his expense.





*I don't give a flying fuck what the verdict said, I reserve the right to characterize his behaviour that night as I see fit.

[Crackpot]

His behavior post trial has removed all doubt about that from my mind.

[Lord Jim]

I'm sorry, but none Zimmerman's subsequent repugnant behavior does anything to alter the facts and the law in the Trayvon Martin case.

The grounds for acquittal relied in no way on how credible or likeable Zimmerman was or is. The fact is that every single bit of forensic and physical evidence in that case supported the interpretation that when George Zimmerman fired the fatal shot he was on his back on the ground receiving a pummeling and having his head slammed into the pavement. (I'd be happy to copy and repost all the evidence for this for anyone who would like their memory refreshed on the details.) This clearly created a credible "reasonable fear for your life" situation.

As far as the law is concerned, nothing that Zimmerman did that night prior to finding himself in this life-threatening situation was illegal. It was not illegal for him to follow Martin, nor did he have any legal requirement to stop following him when asked to do so by the 911 dispatcher. Also, no evidence was ever presented supporting the idea that Zimmerman initiated the physical altercation.

At the time , a lot was made of Florida's "Stand your ground law", but this wasn't even a "stand your ground case" because all the evidence showed that at the time Zimmerman shot Martin, he was in no position to flee even if he had wanted to.

And the argument that he was "hunting" Martin with the pre-mediated intent to gun him down makes no logical sense. If that had been the case, he would have had his gun out, and shot him as soon as he provoked Martin into coming at him, not wait till he was lying on his back getting his ass kicked and his head slammed into the pavement.

As I said, I'd be happy to repost all the details on this...

Look, I didn't like George Zimmerman at the time of the trial, and because of his subsequent actions I have come to find him truly loathsome. Earlier in this thread, I said that I find him so loathsome that I dearly wish that the evidence had supported a guilty verdict.

But it didn't. If one wants to consider him guilty of "murder" in some moral sense, that's fine, but he wasn't guilty of it in a legal sense. The jury reached the correct verdict based on the evidence and the law.

All of that having been said, I think it's reasonable to assume that the interest in "Zimmerman Memorabilia" is fueled to a large extent by racists who are happy that a black guy was killed by a white guy and didn't go to jail for it. For any non-racist rational person, the death of Trayvon Martin was a terrible tragedy; only sick individuals would seek to celebrate it, or cheer for it, or want "mementos" related to it.

And the fact that Zimmerman is exploiting this racism for financial gain makes him all the more loathsome.

[Long Run]

That covers it very well. Even the worst jerk is entitled to self-defense and a fair trial. The result didn't play into the popular narrative, anymore than the Ferguson shooting, but the myth built on repetition is the prevailing thought. And the vile person's latest actions just add to the myth.

[Scooter]

If one wants to consider him guilty of "murder" in some moral sense, that's fine

That's precisely it. Zimmerman went looking for trouble that night, and chose to play supercop with someone who was doing nothing but minding his own fucking business. And yes, I have to wonder if the confidence he had in doing so was driven by the fact that he was carrying a gun. Whether or not he set out to kill anyone that night, he sure as hell put himself in the position to cause that to happen. That doesn't meet the legal standard for murder, fine, but it doesn't make him any kind of an innocent flower.