we don t want your fucking service economy...

[Lord Jim]

I would not call LJ a low info poster and especially not a low info voter.

So that's what he's calling me now...

Well, it's been that kind of week...

Earlier, I had this guy call me ugly:



and the day before that, this guy called me fat:

[wesw]

well, I never said that I could build you a Quality frame....

who the heck wants a steel frame anyway?

i d have trouble with the bearing seats for the crank and gooseneck and forks anyway.....

you just can t take a compliment, can you?

[Sue U]

we don t want your fucking service economy...

We???? Don't pretend to speak for anyone else. It is obvious from your post that you don't even know what the "service economy" is, let alone why you shouldn't want it.

Countries whose economies are primarily agriculture and industry are the poorest in the world; those whose economies are primarily service sector are the wealthiest. There is a reason people migrated off the farms and into the cities in the 19th Century's Industrial Age, and a reason they have migrated out of factories and into services with the advent of the Information Age. The fact is, even most manufacturing is now a service business, where the physical product is merely a tool for channeling and manipulating data, or for providing post-sale services/management.

did we educate our own to fill the professions?

no, we imported horrible paki and African doctors ( the indian docs are great! I d even take Cuban doctors!!!)

we imported nurses too, (the foreign ones suck, from my experience....)

Wrong. American medical schools are full, and the numbers of both schools and enrollments are growing. (In the last five years alone, American medical schools' enrollment has increased about 10%, from 80,000 to 88,000.) But teaching doctors how to practice medicine is a function of residency positions in teaching hospitals -- positions which are subsidized through Medicare and capped by federal law. There are only about 29,000 such positions available, at a cost of more than $150,000 a year each. Are you volunteering the nation's healthcare system to pay for more? How?

If you have "horrible paki and African doctors" it's not because the U.S. is importing them wholesale. Do you even have a clue what it takes for a foreign doctor to get a U.S. medical license? It's not like they just get off the boat and start practicing medicine.

There's a similar problem in nursing education, where a limited number of slots for students is exacerbating a shortage that's already being made worse by an aging population -- both the general population that needs nursing services and the population of nurses themselves reaching retirement age. A quick Google shows that U.S. nursing schools turned away 79,659 qualified applicants from baccalaureate and graduate nursing programs in 2012 due to insufficient number of faculty, clinical sites, classroom space, clinical preceptors, and budget constraints.

And guess what? Healthcare is a service sector business! I thought you said you didn't want a service economy? Now you're complaining that there's not enough of a service economy?

we can t even start our own small businesses, the regulations are repressive...

Pure horseshit. Tell me, what small business have you ever been prevented from starting by "repressive regulations?" I started my own small business three and a half years ago and am doing more than fine, thanks -- in the service sector of the economy.

we don t want to pour your coffee, we don t want to book your fucking cruises where everyone gets sick anyway.

Pour your own fucking coffee and book your own fucking cruise on-line like everyone else does. The remaining waitresses and travel agents of the world will be more than happy not to serve you.

we don t want your kisses before you fuck us!!!!

the ELITE have become burdensome.

You are still a goddamn idiot.

[Jarlaxle]

give me some steel and I could build you a strong frame tho....

building jigs and welding in such a manner so that precise work did not warp was one of my many my fortes in the steel shop....

...and if it did warp..., I could fix it

FAIL!!
Yet again, wes proves that life is capable of existing with the most minimal of brains.  Anyone who knows anything about quality steel-framed bicycles knows that the best hand-built frames are more-or-less soldered together, not welded, using a relatively low-temp technique known as lugging and brazing — as opposed to basically melting the ends of the tubes with a welding torch and smooshing them into each other.

Your old Schwinn Varsity was welded together using gas-pipe-quality tubing (and its weight, even though it was still lighter than the old balloon-tired "Black Phantoms" of the '50s, certainly proved it).  My 1977 Trek TX-700 frameset was constructed using Reynolds 531 double-butted frame tubing, stays, and fork blades which were lugged and silver-brazed.

Incidentally, I've still got the Trek.  The 'Schwein' has probably been recycled into soup cans by now.

-"BB"-

Wes has never claimed to know anything about bicycles. Hell, my uncle is a welder and fabricator, and I expect he has no idea that bicycle frames are brazed. (Personally, I am surprised they aren't TIG-welded.)

[Burning Petard]

(Personally, I am surprised they aren't TIG-welded.)

Some are. Just as in the days of the Wright Brothers, bicycles are still on the leading edge of technology. The bikes in the local big-box store are probably still made with gas-pipe steel frames, but there are those made with titanium, aluminum, space age fibers, and most anything else, including bamboo.

snailgate

[wesw]

some are tig welded. I ve seen some horribly shitty TIG welds on Chinese bikes and I actually made a got a manager at Tractor Supply to pull a go kart of the floor after I saw that it was only tack welded at critical spots underneath and had never been welded out after fitting. the welds that actually were completed were unsound, at best.

I was actually referring to TIG welding the frame. which I would have gotten my son to weld out after I had fitted it up ...

he is an expert tig welder and does it everyday in perdue chicken processing facilties in the mid atlantic and southeast...

he also does a lot of tig welding on off road specialty vehicles at the Metal Shop, where he works, when he doesn t have plant work to do for them. he runs jobs at 25..... as I did....

I am much more familiar with welding carbon steel for structural applications, tho the actual welding was usually done by welders, as my time was too valuable to be spent welding. it is a time consuming and skilled process which everyone can t do, but it doesn t take a genius except for intricate welding procedires, then it does take a genius..., sometimes.

I worked within and enforced the AISC guidelines for much of my career and they are a serious outfit, no jacklegs need apply for certification....

anyway, I ve built my share of bikes from quality discards, and my bikes are always quiet and true... you can see a lot of things on a quiet bike at night....., but I am no master bke mechanic.

I suspect that BB is a master bike mechanic and I admire and appreciate that...

I love bikes. got me an old gary fisher marlin that I take to the corner store....

and I ll play this song just for me, I like it....

(and I listen to every song I post here, so I am tortured just as much as you guys )

[wesw]

sue, we are worlds apart. you live in different world than Us.

your lack of understanding is sad..., only that, not bad, only sad....

do you think all of us voting for trump are ignorant racists ? I suspect that you may...,

nevermind....


enjoy the south of france

....while you can.

the caliphate may not allow it for long.....

[Scooter]

sue, we are worlds apart. you live in different world than Us.

That is one thing you have posted that is truer than even you realize.

[TPFKA@W]

Infinitely preferable to arguing politics.

[wesw]

agreed.

thank god that the rain has finally let up. you people are driving me crazier.....

[liberty]

fabricator

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fab·ri·cate
(făb′rĭ-kāt′)
tr.v. fab·ri·cat·ed, fab·ri·cat·ing, fab·ri·cates
1. To make; create.

2. To construct by combining or assembling diverse, typically standardized parts: fabricate small boats.

[Scooter]

3. To concoct in order to deceive

You know, like you just did, by omitting that part of the definition from the unattributed source you plagiarized.

Moron

[wesw]

I really would like to fabricate a boat.

of course my first one is likely to sink....

scooter can be first mate on the maiden voyage.....

I don t think that it will be big enough for a barrel tho....

[Scooter]

[rubato]

we don t want your ... service economy...

We don't want your agricultural economy.

We don't want your transportation economy (canals).

We don't want your manufacturing economy. (textiles)

We don't want your mining economy. (coal, later iron)

We don't want your transportation economy. (railroads, steam ships, air craft))

really, get a clue will you?

things change.

yrs,
rubato

[MajGenl.Meade]

really, get a clue will you?

Height of optimism there, rube.