Real American Politics

[Gob]

[rubato]

That is a great hat. Isn't it?

I can see why foreigners are so impressed with it.

Real Americans know bullshit when we see it though. Move along now and stop blocking the aisle.



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[Bicycle Bill]

If that rednecked, trash-talking southern boy is supposed to be the face of America (or even the face of the NRA), we're in big trouble.

If they want to show American resolve in action, just go back to the last real war — WWII.  Show some films of people standing in line to sign up after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.  Show some films of women putting down their aprons and spatulas, and picking up the welding masks and riveting tools in assembly lines across the country.  Show films of people turning in scrap metal, saving bacon grease, and WILLINGLY accepting rationing of meat, sugar, gasoline, butter, and other commodities and consumer goods.  Show some films of the First American Volunteer Group of the Chinese Air Force (the 'Flying Tigers') or Squadrons 71, 121, and 133 — the so-called "Eagle Squadrons" — of the RAF, groups made up of volunteer American aviators who signed up to fight even before America was fully involved.  Show some films of boys barely out of high school, going through basic training.  Show some films of these same boys — strike that; these MEN — filing onto troop transports, climbing into B-17s, leaping out of C-47s, or storming ashore from landing craft onto the Normandy beaches.  And be sure to show film of the white crosses at places like the American Cemetery in Normandy, where lie the remains of those who gave the full measure of American resolve.

Or show a film of the black marble slash in the ground in Washington DC, the one known as the Vietnam Memorial, to show the names of another 50,000 or more who answered the call and will never need to answer another one.

THAT is American resolve, and that's what the Ayatollahs he's talking about need to fear.  Not some guy in a big hat, buckskin jacket, and decorative beadwork talking big about how tough other people are.  He can go off somewhere and phuque himself.

-"BB"-

[Guinevere]

Gob and Rube - would you two think about quitting it please. Or at least taking it down a notch. Upon my return, it seems to me that a great many threads more than is typical include your bickering and insult tossing. There is more than enough ugliness in the world these days, can we try to find some respite from it here?

Merci bien.

[Joe Guy]

I saw that for the first time on TV last night. I thought it was a bad comedy bit until the cowboy said he was NRA... then I thought it was funny.

[RayThom]

I saw that for the first time on TV last night. I thought it was a bad comedy bit until the cowboy said he was NRA... then I thought it was funny.

Yeah, it kind of sets up like a National Lampoon skit but then fails to deliver an expected denouement.

Scary stuff.

[oldr_n_wsr]

and WILLINGLY accepting rationing of meat, sugar, gasoline, butter, and other commodities and consumer goods.

I wonder if we would "willingly" accept that today. Too many ME ME ME attitudes.

[rubato]

I saw that for the first time on TV last night. I thought it was a bad comedy bit until the cowboy said he was NRA... then I thought it was funny.

That 'cowboy' is Charlie Daniels. The only thing he has ever convinced me of is that I miss Vasser Clements.


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[RayThom]

...That 'cowboy' is Charlie Daniels...
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Jack's brother, I presume?

[rubato]

I think Jack is his "daddy".

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[Bicycle Bill]

That 'cowboy' is Charlie Daniels. The only thing he has ever convinced me of is that I miss Vasser Clements.

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If that's Charlie Daniels, he's a long way from his "Uneasy Rider" and "Funky Junky" days.

-"BB"-

[rubato]

That 'cowboy' is Charlie Daniels. The only thing he has ever convinced me of is that I miss Vasser Clements.

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If that's Charlie Daniels, he's a long way from his "Uneasy Rider" and "Funky Junky" days.

-"BB"-

It is, and he is indeed.


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[Lord Jim]

When The Devil Went Down To Georgia...



If that's Charlie Daniels, he's a long way from his "Uneasy Rider" and "Funky Junky" days...

Yeah definitely...

A one and a two...

"I was takin a trip out to L.A.
Toolin along in my cheverolet
Tokin on a number and diggin on the radio

Just as I crossed the Mississippi line
I heard that highway start to whine
And I knew that left rear tire was about to blow

Well the spare was flat and I got uptight
Cause there wasn't a filling station in sight
So I just limped on down the shoulder on the rim

I went as far as I could and when I stopped the car
It was right in front of this little bar
Kind of a red-neck lookin joint called the Dew Drop Inn

I stuffed my hair up under my hat
And told the bartender that I had a flat
And would he be kind enough to give me change for a one

There was one thing I was sure proud to see
There wasn't a soul in the place except for him and me
He just looked disgusted and pointed toward the telephone

I called up the station down the road a ways
He said he wasn't very busy today
And he could have someone out there in just about 10 minutes or so

He said, "Now, you just stay right where yer at!"
And I didn't bother to tell the darn fool
That I sure as hell didn't have anyplace else to go

I just ordered up a beer and sat down at the bar
When some guy walked in and said, "Who owns this car
With the peace sign, the mag wheels and the four on the floor?"

He looked at me and I damn near died
And I decided that I'd just wait outside
So I laid a dollar on the bar and headed for the door

Just when I thought I'd get outta there with my skin
These 5 big dudes come strollin in
With one old drunk chick and some fella with green teeth

I was almost to the door when the biggest one
Said, "You tip your hat to this lady, son!"
And when I did, all that hair fell out from underneath

Now the last thing I wanted was to get into a fight
In Jackson Mississippi on a Saturday night
Especially when there was three of them and only one of me

They all started laughin and I felt kinda sick
And I knew I better think of something pretty quick
So I just reached out and kicked old green teeth right in the knee

Now he let out a yell that'd curl yer hair
But before he could move I grabbed me a chair
And said "Now watch him Folks cause he's a thoroughly dangerous man!"

"You may not know it but this man is a spy.
He's a undercover agent for the FBI
And he's been sent down here to infiltrate the Ku Klux Klan!"

He was still bent over holdin on to his knee
But everybody else was looking and listening to me
And I laid it on thicker and heavier as I went

I said, "Would you believe this man has gone as far
As tearing Wallace stickers off the bumpers of cars.
And he voted for George McGovern for President."

"Well, he's a friend of them long haired, hippy-type, pinko fags!
I betchya he's even got a commie flag
tacked up on the wall inside of his garage."

"He's a snake in the grass, I tell ya guys.
He may look dumb but that's just a disguise,
He's a mastermind in the ways of espionage"

They all started lookin real suspicious at him
And he jumped up and said "Now just wait a minute Jim!
You know he's lying I been living here all of my life!"

"I'm a faithful follower of Brother John Birch
And I belong to the Antioch Baptist Church.
And I ain't even got a garage, you can call home and ask my wife!"

Then he started saying somethin bout the way I was dressed
But I didn't wait around to hear the rest
I was too busy moving and hoping I didn't run outta luck

When I hit the ground I was making tracks
And they were just taking my car down off the jacks
So I threw the man a twenty and jumped in and fired that mother up

Mario Andretti wouldda sure been proud
Of the way I was movin when I passed that crowd
Coming out the door and headed toward me at a trot

And I guess I should of gone ahead and run
But somehow I just couldn't resist the fun
Of chasing them all just once around the parking lot

Well they headed for their car, but i hit the gas
And spun around and headed them off at the pass
I was slinging gravel and putting a ton of dust in the air

I had them all out there steppin and fetchin
Like their heads was on fire and their asses was catchin
then I figgered I had better go ahead and split before the cops got there

When I hit the road I was really wheelin
Had gravel flyin and rubber squeelin
And I didn't slow down till I was almost to Arkansas

I think I'm gonna reroute my trip
I wonder if anybody'd think I'd flipped
If I went to L.A., via Omaha..."

[Lord Jim]

We say Grace, and we say Maam....

[Bicycle Bill]

We say Grace, and we say Maam....

That's actually Hank Jr. wrote and performed that song — but I'm glad you brought it up.
From the same song:

"But he was killed by a man with a switchblade knife.
For forty-three dollars, my friend lost his life.
I'd love to spit some Beech-nut in that dude's eyes
And shoot him with my ol' forty-five..."

And that seems to be the NRA answer to everything.
Bring a gun to a fist-fight, and blaze away.

-"BB"-

[oldr_n_wsr]

Yeah, I keep seeing/hearing/reading about all those legal gun owners shooting up people all over the place.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Yeah, I keep seeing/hearing/reading about all those legal gun owners shooting up people all over the place.

Careful there, oldr. Many of the recent mass shootings have been committed with legally owned guns. I think maybe you meant to comment on the way the Executing Council of the NRA has been involved in (a) shooting down people en masse and (b) issuing instructions to those of their members with secret decoder rings to do likewise.

I'm sure that is what BB intended to highlight.

[Sue U]

Yeah, I keep seeing/hearing/reading about all those legal gun owners shooting up people all over the place.

Hey, why not just google that shit before you post? Oh ferchrissake, here, let me do it for you:

Dec 5 2015, 12:02 pm ET
More Than 80 Percent of Guns Used in Mass Shootings Obtained Legally
by Elizabeth Chuck

The weapons used in this week's massacre in San Bernardino, California, were purchased legally, raising questions about how preventable gun violence is under current U.S. firearm laws.

Eighty-two percent of weapons involved in mass shootings over the last three decades have been bought legally, according to a database compiled by Mother Jones magazine that defines a mass shooting as taking the lives of at least four people in a public place. Using that criteria, Mother Jones found 73 mass shootings since 1982.

Source.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... -full-data

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/us/we ... .html?_r=0

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/42 ... -c-w-cooke

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/24/us/louisi ... -shooting/

http://nation.time.com/2013/09/17/navy- ... ou-cut-it/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /32477133/

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/17/justice/m ... entencing/

I could literally do this all day, but you still won't believe it because the actual facts don't fit in with your personal bias and preconceived notions.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Sue, I believe oldr mis... er... miswrote. Please see my post above.

[Lord Jim]

Bring a gun to a fist-fight

Well, it certainly beats being on the opposite end of that exchange....