BLM Throws Another Hissy Fit

[dales]

A sure-fire way to win over those to your side.............

[Guinevere]

OFFS, it's called a protest. Good for them! We need more. Something needs to be done to stop the summary execution of black men in our streets by the police.

Or you'd prefer more sniper fire?

[Jarlaxle]

Run the fuckers over.

[Guinevere]

Run the fuckers over.

Go to hell.

And get some fucking counseling for a change. Meds would help too.

[BoSoxGal]

I can't believe that traffic flow is more important to some Americans than Justice. I'm sure there were plenty of folks tied up in traffic by that protest who support the protesters. Some white folk are really fucking sick and tired of other white folks' racist bullshit and REALLY FUCKING SICK & TIRED of murdering cops!

Let's DO something to change things before more really angry unstable people start executing innocent cops to exact revenge for the murderous acts of other cops.

May God bless the victims and their families, black OR white.

[Jarlaxle]

Hope it isn't you that needs an ambulance that is caught in that backup.

Protest is fine. Blockba highway and you deserve whatever happens to you.

[Burning Petard]

So protest is fine, as long as the protest does not inconvenience anyone. A detail in the general rule, that In the USofA the people have inalienable rights, as long as the exercise of those rights is not a burden on the dominant culture.

"racist bullshit and REALLY FUCKING SICK & TIRED of murdering cops!" Yep. me too. really sick & tired of murdering cops and cops who do murder. I am just sick and tired of people--some of my individual neighbors, all of the GOP candidates for president way back at the first tv debate, who all proudly announce that killing is the solution. What ever the problem, killing never ends it. Unless you are considering total annihilation and then total removal of history. But of course that takes total control over the whole planet. Anything less and it comes back to bite you later, like Turkey and their Armenians.

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[Lord Jim]

Blocking traffic on a major artery is much more than an "inconvenience" or an interruption of "traffic flow"....

It's a potentially life threatening disruption of the ability to deliver emergency services. The people who engage in this sort life endangering behavior are selfish and thoughtless. It's the "my rights matter more than anybody elses" mind set that is so typical of these self-righteous, self-important, self-absorbed types.

Disgusting. They should all be charged and prosecuted.

And as Dale points out, from the perspective of winning converts to your cause as a tactic it's the ultimate in idiocy.

[Burning Petard]

Yeah, those nasty protesters might slow emergency responders, maybe, perhaps.

Unlike NJ Gov Christy's minions, who blocked traffic on a bridge and did ACTUALLY slow emergency responders.

More demonstration of his qualification to be Trump's running mate.

[dales]

OFFS, it's called a protest. Good for them! We need more. Something needs to be done to stop the summary execution of black men in our streets by the police.

Or you'd prefer more sniper fire?

Unlawful protest is not a guaranteed right under the US Constitution (Even in Oaktown).

I have no problem with a peaceful protests regardless of the cause. What happened in Oakland is the usual bullsh!t anarchy that happens all the dammed time!

MLK is spinning in his grave!

The vast majority of people living in the SF Bay Area (a VERY progressive area of the country) are dammed sick and tired of the soiled diapers being tossed about on I-80!

[rubato]

Stopping traffic, whether it is for political protest or a selfish attempt to punish a political rival like Chris Christie did, disrupts other people's live with no knowledge of the degree of harm being caused and shows a lack of respect for those impacted as individuals. It is USING them for your purpose. As a political protest it might be justified if the issue involved is great enough to offset the serious harm and lack of respect for those impacted but the conditions which justify it are few. USING other people for your purposes is wrong. (speaking as a good Kantian liberal)

In this case we have seen a long series of black people murdered at the hand of the police, or 'self appointed' police, with little or no legal consequence. The Police have not been held to a higher standard of behavior, as they should, but to a ridiculously lower standard of behavior. If I handcuffed someone and threw him in the back of a van and drove like a maniac so his body slammed around a steel-covered confined space like a pin ball I would likely be convicted of both murder and torture; the courts see no crime at all when an officer does it.

When white people rise up in anger and disgust at the treatment of black people in equal proportion then we will be able to claim the beginnings of a society which black people ought to support and which we have a right to claim their support of.

Until then, I understand. I understand the shootings of police and the protests. I don't agree with either and think both hurt us, but I do understand.

And when the police respond to each killing of a black person by closing ranks, making excuses like "they don't pay enough to train us", and refusing to accept moral responsibility, I understand. I understand their own total moral failure and I understand why the community is going to respond the way it will.

The police are the one institution in society which is empowered to use force against citizens. They should start acting like they understand that this comes with a proportionate degree of responsibility.

So in sum, I don't agree with the people blocking traffic but they are right that black people are being murdered and no one is paying much attention.

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rubato

[Joe Guy]

So in sum, I don't agree with the people blocking traffic but they are right that black people are being murdered and no one is paying much attention.

You must not read, listen to or watch the news much.

Also, if this website is accurate, I wonder why we aren't hearing about Native Americans being killed by police.

[rubato]

So in sum, I don't agree with the people blocking traffic but they are right that black people are being murdered and no one is paying much attention.

You must not read, listen to or watch the news much.

Also, if this website is accurate, I wonder why we aren't hearing about Native Americans being killed by police.

I know it was a long post with a lot of words but reading the whole thing really is essential to understanding what was said.

You hopeless moron.

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rubato

[Lord Jim]

So in sum, I don't agree with the people blocking traffic but they are right that black people are being murdered and no one is paying much attention.

reading the whole thing really is essential to understanding what was said.

So you're saying that your summary didn't actually summarize what you wrote?

And Joe is right; ENORMOUS attention has been paid to this. In fact the media has paid so much attention to this, it has given many people the completely false impression that we have some sort of "epidemic" of police unjustly shooting black people. This is proven conclusively false by the data:

Between 1976 and 2011 across the United States, 7,982 blacks were murdered each year, on average — 94 percent by other blacks, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. About 227 blacks (2.8 percent) were shot by police each year, [and of course the vast majority of that number involved the justified shooting of armed suspects. Those shootings never make the news.] according to a study by Pro Publica (which pointed out that national statistics on police shootings are difficult to assess because of differences in how police departments report them).

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That doesn't of course excuse any individual police officer who does commit an unjustified shooting, but it gives some perspective...

This past week we had the misfortune of having the tragedy of two very questionable police shootings in two very different parts of the country that resulted in fatalities, and the media coverage was so massive and sensationalized that protest rallies involving many thousands of people erupted all across the country...

Over the 4th of July weekend, four African Americans were killed in black-on-black gang violence in just one city, (Chicago) and that was actually touted as a "good" number for Chicago on a holiday weekend...

[Guinevere]

So you don't think there is a problem and like Dales, you believe BLM is a load of hysterical BS. Is that the underlying point you're trying to make, LJ?

[MajGenl.Meade]

Yes, there is "a" problem and there are "other" problems.

There is a problem of unjustified police action (not always resulting in death but serious injury) and there is a problem of hysterical liars inflating numbers, making up false stories (Ferguson) and encouraging deadly attacks on police officers by their hyperbolix.

Between 1976 and 2011 across the United States, 7,982 blacks were murdered each year, on average — 94 percent by other blacks, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. About 227 blacks (2.8 percent) were shot by police each year, [and of course the vast majority of that number involved the justified shooting of armed suspects. Those shootings never make the news.] according to a study by Pro Publica (which pointed out that national statistics on police shootings are difficult to assess because of differences in how police departments report them)

Are the above facts or not? Or is it more like 50,000 innocent blacks gunned down in the past 6 months or whatever crap the activists are claiming today? What is the truth of this?

[Lord Jim]

I believe that any police officer who misuses their authority should have the book thrown at them. I've said this a number of times before. An unjustified shooting that results in a fatality is the most extreme misuse of authority imaginable.

I'm not saying that the problem of cops killing African Americans in unjustified shooting is non-existent; obviously it does happen....

What I am saying is that it is not the kind of "epidemic" problem that many people in this country have come to believe it is. (The huge amount of media focus lavished on these exceptional incidents when they occur, without any context being provided, is largely responsible for this.)

And all the statistical data backs my position, 100%.

As for BLM, I don't know of one single positive thing they have accomplished.

Stopping people who had nothing to do with unjustifiably shooting black people from shopping at stores that had nothing to do with unjustifiably shooting black people, or engaging in bully-boy tactics grabbing microphones and shouting down opponents aren't positive or helpful accomplishments in my book.

[MajGenl.Meade]

They are quite Trumpian, are they not?

eta (I refer to the tactics)

[rubato]

Yes, there is "a" problem and there are "other" problems.

There is a problem of unjustified police action (not always resulting in death but serious injury) and there is a problem of hysterical liars inflating numbers, making up false stories (Ferguson) and encouraging deadly attacks on police officers by their hyperbolix.
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Ferguson is not a false story. It is a true story of a black and poor population systematically raped and exploited to fund the city coffers.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/06/us/fergus ... ets-fines/

http://qz.com/257042/these-seven-charts ... -the-poor/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... m-poverty/

http://www.governing.com/topics/public- ... udget.html

They were right to riot and should, in fact, have killed everyone in city government. That would have been the right thing to do. They were being preyed on like sheep by wolves and none of the systems of justice ever gave a shit about them.


yrs,
rubato

[MajGenl.Meade]

They were right to riot and should, in fact, have killed everyone in city government. That would have been the right thing to do.

yrs,
rubato

The false narrative of Ferguson was the fabricated story of the innocent black youth being shot with his hands in the air while trying to surrender. The truth was a criminal thug attacking an officer.

As to the rest, such discrimination must be halted. Your statement that the city government should have been killed is reprehensible, disgusting and truly worthy of Donald. Well done in exceeding your usual dose of vindictive, violent bigotry.