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Presidential Toothpick vs Presidential Timber

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This is what Trump says:

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This

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And this

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is what a PRESIDENT says.

Any questions?

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Before he was elected President at the age of 43 in 1960, John F. Kennedy had been
● a decorated member of the U. S. Naval Reserve, achieving the rank of Lieutenant and winning (among other awards) the Navy and Marine Corps Medal "for heroism in the rescue of three men following the ramming and sinking of his motor torpedo boat while attempting a torpedo attack on a Japanese destroyer in the Solomon Islands ... His courage, endurance, and excellent leadership contributed to the saving of several lives and was in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service."
● won the Pulitzer Prize for Biography for his book, "Profiles in Courage".
● served in both the US House of Representative and the US Senate.
● was second choice for the position of Vice-President on the 1956 Democratic ticket (losing out to Estes Kafauver) after Presidential nominee Adlai Stevenson declined to choose his own running mate and let the convention make the selection instead.

Trump, on the other hand, is presently 70 years of age and has
● been married and divorced twice, and is now on marriage #3 — to a woman 23 years his junior.
● ghost-written several books, none of which have even been nominated for Pulitzer prizes.
● declared bankruptcy *FOUR* times.
● has been continually the subject of allegations of scandalous dealings and business practices
● is probably best known for hosting a 'reality TV' series
● has changed political affiliations more often than a chameleon changes colors:
— in 1987 he was a Republican
— by 1999 he was an Independent
— in 2000 made a failed run for the Presidency as a Reform Party candidate
— by 2001 was calling himself a Democrat
— in 2009, returned to the Republican party
— and in 2011, was again claiming to be an independent with no party affiliation
— and now (since 2015) claims to again be a Republican ... the 3rd time in 30 years.

The facts are there, people.
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Speaking of Presidential Timber, the current POTUS is speaking at the DNC following a film that captured the grace and class he's brought back to the office after many years of it lacking in the Oval Office.

Maybe he was only a community organizer, state legislator and one-term Senator before becoming President, but he had an innate Presidential temperament that overcame any lack of experience.

Too bad for that 22nd Amendment . . . I'd happily vote him in again! :ok
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JFK's "Ask not..." quote:
The most stirring line of JFK’s inaugural address, “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country,” echoed similar exhortations made by many others, including Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. and President Warren G. Harding, who told the 1916 Republican convention, “We must have a citizenship less concerned about what the government can do for it and more anxious about what it can do for the nation.”

The inspiration for Kennedy’s famous observation, “For of those to whom much is given, much is required” can be found in Luke 12:48: “For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required.”
http://www.ralphkeyes.com/ask-not-where ... came-from/
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In the 12 Step vernacular:
You must give it away in order to keep it.

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Very interesting news cycle right now. FiveThirtyEight, the statistics and polling analysis experts, must be doing alot of processing right now.

They usually update their odds on the presidential election very frequently. Right now their tote board has not changed in 13 hours.

They have it 'if the election were today' with the Donald winning by about 25 electoral votes. But for the actual election in November, they have Hillary by about 30 electoral votes.

And they are still grinding what they think the speeches last nite mean.

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Nate Silver (538) last week:
It would be a bad sign for Trump if he can’t at least tie Clinton in polls conducted in between the RNC and the DNC. Since recent convention bounces have averaged 3 or 4 percentage points, and Trump trails Clinton by 3 or 4 points now, that would suggest he’d had a below-average convention bounce. And it would certainly be a bad sign for Clinton if she doesn’t lead after her convention, since she both holds the lead going into the conventions and gets to hold her convention last.

Beyond that, you should read the polls with some caution over the next few weeks. * * *

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The final tally will not matter. The election will be decided by eight justices, or less, on the Supreme Court.
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I doubt that. I would be very surprised if the SC would even take the case, this time around.

What I'm afraid of is that it might be decided by the House of Representatives.
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