Fireman Sam blunder

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Desecration of bodies, even very old ones, is something very different (I wouldn't object to using the dung of the ancient pharaohs), but as i hadn't heard of this before, I ill not comment other than to say it would depend why it was being used.

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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
rubato wrote:PS I did not recommend torture or murder. That is a lie. You must apologize if you wish to appear moral.
Or just publish his/her name address &c. to Al Jazeera and let nature take its course.
Your comment quoted above is a clear incitement/call/code for vengeance involving bodily harm.

OTOH, if you agree that Trump was making a rather feeble joke and did NOT call for "one of our adversaries to engage in hacking or intelligence efforts against the United States" - well, then I'll agree you may not have been continuing to advocate savagery as you did in the case of the Ferguson city council.

That comment was after your lie, first af all, and second does not call for torture or murder only that the guilt party face the social oppoprobrium he/ she has earned.

You are a liar. You should apologize for the lie or admit that your word is shit.

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LMFAO!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Well well well. he's down to 8 commandments now. He was already ignoring the 4 th commandment and now he's ignoring the 9th commandment. Rather a streamlined version of Christianity. Or is it a smorgasbord?

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rubato wrote:Well well well. he's down to 8 commandments now. He was already ignoring the 4 th commandment and now he's ignoring the 9th commandment. Rather a streamlined version of Christianity. Or is it a smorgasbord?

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Unbelievable...


Absolutely beyond belief....
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Big RR wrote:
I hope he is fired and his name and address are published everywhere.
While I agree that his employer is most likely within its rights to fire him (unless, e.g., they told him to put the page in), why should his name be publicized? To what end?
So he can be murdered. Claiming any other reason would be a lie.
Treat Gaza like Carthage.

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Hey that's not the only reason I'm sure acid in the face will suffice.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Jarlaxle wrote:
Big RR wrote:
I hope he is fired and his name and address are published everywhere.
While I agree that his employer is most likely within its rights to fire him (unless, e.g., they told him to put the page in), why should his name be publicized? To what end?
So he can be murdered. Claiming any other reason would be a lie.

Meade said I had advocated killing before that, first of all. Causation does not work backwards in time. Neither does justification. And second, public shaming explains my reasons accurately,. You can see how effective public shaming is by Meade's cowardice in refusing to apologize for an obvious lie.


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I notice that public shaming does not seem to do much about changing the Donald's public behavior.

snailgate

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He is beyond that. WAAAAAAYYYY BEEEEEYYYYOOOOONNNNDDDD!

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Burning Petard wrote:I notice that public shaming does not seem to do much about changing the Donald's public behavior.

snailgate

Trump has the ability to cut himself off from the rest of the world and insulate himself from things which would otherwise embarrass him. But it isn't perfect, look up his reaction at the WH correspondents dinner when Obama made fun of him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4


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After Roasting, Trump Reacts In Character

By MICHAEL BARBAROMAY 1, 2011

Donald Trump, speaking to a Republican women's group in Las Vegas on Thursday, is flirting with a run for the White House. Credit Julie Jacobson/Associated Press

LAS VEGAS — He was savagely mocked by President Obama and the comedian Seth Meyers at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner — belittled as a political charlatan with an unchecked ego and a dead fox plastered on his head.

But the next morning, Donald J. Trump was not laughing. He was doing what seems to come more naturally: lashing out.

“Seth Meyers has no talent,” Mr. Trump said in an interview on Sunday. “He fell totally flat. In fact, I thought Seth’s delivery was so bad that he hurt himself.”

Mr. Trump, who appeared unsmiling throughout most of the annual dinner on Saturday night, acknowledged his occasional discomfort (“I am not looking to laugh along with my enemies”) but said he viewed the rough treatment as a measure of the fear he had struck in the Washington establishment. “It was like a roast of Donald Trump,” he said, clearly reveling in the attention, if not the content.

So it does get through, sometimes.


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rubato wrote:
Jarlaxle wrote:
Big RR wrote:
While I agree that his employer is most likely within its rights to fire him (unless, e.g., they told him to put the page in), why should his name be publicized? To what end?
So he can be murdered. Claiming any other reason would be a lie.

Meade said I had advocated killing before that, first of all. Causation does not work backwards in time. Neither does justification. And second, public shaming explains my reasons accurately,. You can see how effective public shaming is by Meade's cowardice in refusing to apologize for an obvious lie.


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The liar is you, Ozzie...whether or not you'll admit it, even to yourself, you want him dead.

I have no idea what Meade posted, he's been on my ignore list for months.
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Jarlaxle wrote: "...



I have no idea what Meade posted, he's been on my ignore list for months.
So you have no idea what the facts are, refuse to look, and are proud that your opinion is the product of ignorance?


That's you.


Only weaklings use ignore, btb.


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Meade said I had advocated killing before that, first of all.
Indeed he did, and he was 100% accurate in that accusation:
They were right to riot and should, in fact, have killed everyone in city government. That would have been the right thing to do.

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Did you write that rube, or did I hack into your account again? :lol:
You can see how effective public shaming is by Meade's cowardice in refusing to apologize for an obvious lie.
We can see how effective public shaming is by watching your behavior...

Based on your example I'd be tempted to conclude "not very effective", but then for public shaming to work the object of it has to be capable of shame, which you demonstrate on nearly a daily basis is something you have no facility for...

Once again we see you illustrate how you are the Plan B Donald Trump...

You lie and smear others constantly, and then whine about how you're the one who ought to be getting an apology...

You're a cowardly bully with a glass jaw...
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rubato wrote:Meade said I had advocated killing before that, first of all. Causation does not work backwards in time. Neither does justification. And second, public shaming explains my reasons accurately,. You can see how effective public shaming is by Meade's cowardice in refusing to apologize for an obvious lie.
You did. It doesn't. It doesn't. Lying explains your reasons accurately. Public shaming is useless because you continue to lie, even about your own lying.
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts

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rubato wrote:
Jarlaxle wrote: "...

I have no idea what Meade posted, he's been on my ignore list for months.
So you have no idea what the facts are, refuse to look, and are proud that your opinion is the product of ignorance?

That's you.

Only weaklings use ignore, btb.


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Actually, I know precisely what the facts are, Ozzie!
Fact: you wanted the "offender's" personal information to be publicized.
Fact: the only logical reason for that is so he can be killed.
Fact: no amount of dodging, flailing, and drunken rambling will change anything.

You are perfectly happy to advocate murder, Ozzie...now fucking OWN IT!
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I only hope that the animation company can identify the person and have him/her apologize in front of every mosque in 100 mile radius. Or just publish his/her name address &c. to Al Jazeera and let nature take its course.
Suggestion 1 = social opprobrium

Suggestion 2 = Publish the name and address (and so on) to Arabic news media and "let nature take its course". Which we all know is code for "violent retribution"

Just as it was for the council men and women of Ferguson who deserved death, according to Mr Democrato
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts

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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
I only hope that the animation company can identify the person and have him/her apologize in front of every mosque in 100 mile radius. Or just publish his/her name address &c. to Al Jazeera and let nature take its course.
Suggestion 1 = social opprobrium

Suggestion 2 = Publish the name and address (and so on) to Arabic news media and "let nature take its course". Which we all know is code for "violent retribution"

Just as it was for the council men and women of Ferguson who deserved death, according to Mr Democrato

Or give him/her a good healthy scare. I would expect that he/she will receive the full protection of the law as did Salman Rusdie, who appears quite healthy physically although his literary reputation has faded some.

So you have abandoned the 9th commandment as well as the 4th? In any case I said that after your comment. Liar.

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You really think he deserves "a good healthy scare" after doing something that was perfectly legal (even if it was stupid) and that others should be culpable in this by publishing his personal information? You've lost me there.

And comparing him to Rushdie eludes me as well; having to go into hiding to avoid the carrying out of death threats of people who wanted to censor what he had to say. Regardless of what you thought of the Satanic verses, we shouldn't pander to those who would seek to restrict someone's right to his or her own opinion and his or her right to voice it.

IMHO, a breach of etiquette (which is what this is, except maybe to his employer) does not warrant a "good scare".

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[quote="rubato"] In any case I said that after your comment. Liar./quote]

I have no idea what you are referring to and suspect that you don't either.

I have broken all 10 commandments and am not proud of that. You, however, are delighted to have failed at so many.
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts

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