Crater maker

[oldr_n_wsr]

So you are unable to respond except by misstating what I said to the point where you look like an illiterate moron?

So help me with my illiteracy.
You say:

One should gauge any activity which has a risk to human life by both the level and type of the risk and the value which it might have.

You need to define "value".
Value to whom?
Is it the overall value to mankind? The simple joy someone might get from doing something risky?
The astronauts take risks, and there are certain benefits to the risk. But the space program got it's start from the guy (Von Braun) who developed the Nazi rockets which bombed and killed thousands, maybe millions.

And must risk and value be always be weighed against human life?
When I ride my mc, I do not weigh the risk of that ride against my life. I ride because I like to. It doesn't diminish my value for human life nor does it mean I value life less than someone who doesn't ride.

Do crab fishermen (one of the most dangerous jobs) value human life less because they take a big risk to their lives catching crab? What is the value of crab to the rest of us? Certainly we could all live without eating crabs.
Correct me if I am wrong but you seem to be supporting the equation:
value/risk = regard for human life
Where value goes up and/or risk goes down, regard for life goes up (possibly to infinity). The opposite is also true where value goes down and/or risk goes up, regard for life goes down (possibly to zero).

But again we need to define "value" and who/what gains from that.
And we need to define "risk". Do we limit it to risk of death? Or do we broaden it to risk of reputation or someones lively hood or quality of life or something else I have not thought of?

Sometimes the value of an activity is just the personal joy and satisfaction of doing it.

[Bicycle Bill]

According to a story from slate.com (and subsequently reprinted in Reader's Digest, which is where I saw it), the Dalai Lama was once visiting a ski resort in New Mexico in 1991 when he was asked by a waitress, in all honesty and earnestness, what was the meaning of life.  He said, "Forty-two"

“The meaning of life is happiness.”  He raised his finger, leaning forward, focusing on her as if she were the only person in the world.  “Hard question is not, ‘What is meaning of life?’  That is easy question to answer!  No, hard question is what make happiness.  Money?  Big house?  Accomplishment?  Friends?  Or …”  He paused.  “Compassion and good heart?  This is question all human beings must try to answer:  What make true happiness?”

And as 'Curly' told us in "City Slickers": (which, coincidentally, was also released in 1991 — weird, huh?)



Hope this helps you understand why people sometimes do the things that they do, rube.  They are searching for that one thing that makes them truly happy.

-"BB"-

[rubato]

So you are unable to respond except by misstating what I said to the point where you look like an illiterate moron?

So help me with my illiteracy.
You say:

One should gauge any activity which has a risk to human life by both the level and type of the risk and the value which it might have.

You need to define "value".
Value to whom?
Is it the overall value to mankind? The simple joy someone might get from doing something risky?
The astronauts take risks, and there are certain benefits to the risk. But the space program got it's start from the guy (Von Braun) who developed the Nazi rockets which bombed and killed thousands, maybe millions.

I have answered that question:

We decide for ourselves, to a great degree. Which is as it should be. To repeat what I have said before in other words; HOW WE make those decisions is HOW WE communicate what we believe the value of human life is.

Which applies both to evaluating risk and deciding what value it has.

yrs,
rubato

[rubato]

Gob;

I have made points you are incapable of understanding. Hence your continual efforts to distort them into something I did not say.

A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he
unconciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.
Bertrand Russell

A lack of emotional self-control makes you play a fool.



yrs,
rubato

[Gob]

I have made points you are incapable of understanding. Hence your continual efforts to distort them into something I did not say.

Nope,you made bullshit points that everyone here saw as a strawman way of you trying to deflect attention from your own lack of balls.

A lack of emotional self-control makes you play a fool.
yrs,
rubato

Your Apsergers makes you over controlled, and unable to empathise or deal with normal human interaction.

[rubato]

I have made points you are incapable of understanding. Hence your continual efforts to distort them into something I did not say.

Nope,you made bullshit points that everyone here saw as a strawman way of you trying to deflect attention from your own lack of balls.

A lack of emotional self-control makes you play a fool.
yrs,
rubato

Your Apsergers makes you over controlled, and unable to empathise or deal with normal human interaction.

You appear not to realize that the "Aspergers" charge makes you look like an even bigger fool, or incompetent.

Keep it up though. Every time you use it, I laugh at you.


yrs,
rubato

[Gob]

You appear not to realize that the "Aspergers" charge makes you look like an even bigger fool, or incompetent.

Keep it up though. Every time you use it, I laugh at you.


yrs,
rubato

How can it make me look "incompetent"?

I'll carry on using it then if it amuses you so, no need to thank me.

[oldr_n_wsr]

HOW WE make those decisions is HOW WE communicate what we believe the value of human life is.

I do not agree with this statement.
When evaluating risk, I am not communicating to the world the value I place on human life.
I don't equate peoples choices of their occupation or of what they do for kicks with how or how much they value human life.

If someone is a thrill seeker (sky diver, rock climber, mountain climber, etc. all of which have little value to humanity as a whole) I do not assume they value human life less. In fact I think they value human life more. They try and get everything they can out of life by pushing it to the limits.
But that's just me, your results may vary.