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The Donald stiffs another vendor:
Trump Deals From Strength With ‘USA Freedom Kids,’ Crushes Them

If there is a secret to Donald Trump’s success in business, after (1) inherit a large fortune and (2) use the media to create a famous brand, it’s (3) don’t pay people the money you owe them. You’d be surprised how much more profitable it can be to have people supply you with goods and services and not have to pay them anything than the alternative of reimbursing them at the agreed-upon price.

He has famously used bankruptcy to burn the people who have been foolish enough to loan him money, and then explained that it was fair because they were “sharks.” He has also applied this method to his dealings with non-sharks — stiffing contractors is a cornerstone of the Trump business model (as USA Today and The Wall Street Journal, among others, have found).

And Trump doesn’t quite admit that he habitually refuses to honor his contracts, but he doesn’t exactly deny it in the strongest terms, either. Instead, Trump presents his lack of business ethics as a qualification for office. “My whole life I’ve been greedy, greedy, greedy. I’ve grabbed all the money I could get,” he said at a debate last year. “I’m so greedy. But now I want to be greedy for the United States.”

The “USA Freedom Kids,” a cheese-ball youth performance troupe, appeared at a Trump rally last summer and became an instant sensation, partly because of the contrast between the adorableness of the performers and the quasi-fascistic undertones of their lyrics (such as “Deal from strength or get crushed every time”). Jeff Popick, the group’s (adult) manager, told Claire Landsbaum he was attracted to Trump not only for reasons of customer synergy but also personal conviction — “[Trump] knows what he’s doing, and he makes the right decisions,” Popick explained.

You’ll never guess what happened next. Yes, Trump refused to pay the group for its time and expenses, reports Philip Bump. First, the USA Kids were told they could have a free table to sell CDs instead of $2,500, they accepted the deal, and no such table was provided. Then they were asked to fly to Iowa to appear at Trump’s rally to help veterans, and not only were they not paid, but Trump failed to reimburse the cost of their travel. Popick is rethinking his previous analysis of the campaign:
“At this point, my position is that I have no position, really,” Popick said. “What he’s done to my group or what he’s not done for my group doesn’t necessarily make him the best candidate, it doesn’t make him the worst candidate. I still have to mull that over. He might still be the best candidate as president of the United States – or not.”

“What I think I’ve learned,” Popick added, “is that I’m not qualified to be a political commentator.”
Alternatively, you could say Popick’s original beliefs about Trump have been vindicated. He didn’t deal with Trump from strength, and he got crushed.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... -kids.html


I think it was bad form for Colbert to direct all the snarky insults towards a group of young girls that he makes here, (frankly it makes him look like a bit of a bully himself) but the "The USA Freedom Grownups" bit at the end of the clip is pretty funny:

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Why Facts don't matter to Trump supporters--and lots of people on other issues as well.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... ge%2Fstory

This is an essay about why facts will not change opinion for Trump supporters. Interestingly it contains some hints as to what kind of presentations might actually shift things. It also contains links to a report in Harvard Business Review about the popular view that autism is caused by vaccination, and to a report from Australia on popular opinion about climate change. Both issues where facts seem to be ignored.

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I saw the author of that article, David Ignatius, talking about it on Morning Joe earlier this morning....

I've got it on my list of articles to read today...
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Lord Jim wrote:... I think it was bad form for Colbert to direct all the snarky insults towards a group of young girls that he makes here, (frankly it makes him look like a bit of a bully himself)...
I think the evolution of late night television has been outstanding. I do miss Letterman, though. Colbert offers up a "Theatre of the Absurd." In political satire there are no sacred cows. I do enjoy Fallon more, but I record Colbert every night.
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The "freedom kids" were an unintentional parody of themselves from the beginning. Colbert's snark was gentler than their own self-mockery,


"Deal from strength or get crushed"? indeed.

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didja hear that ate a baby at his last rally?

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wesw wrote:didja hear that ate a baby at his last rally?
Is that the same rally where they punched out the 91 year old great-grandmother for falling asleep?
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Lemme give you a little pro-tip here, Scooter.  Next time you find an image but it is as big as the one above (and 3500 by 2545 pixels is fuggin' HUUUGE), do this:
  • ● Copy the URL of the oversize image
    ● Paste it into the "search" window and hit "search"
    ● Next, click on "search by image"; this should show options for different sized images of the same picture or cartoon.
    ● Find a more appropriately-sized image and copy that image's URL
    ● Paste it into your post — thusly:
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Easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy!!
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I'm sorry that you are using a substandard browser that doesn't reduce automatically to a standard size for you, or that you unable to use your zoom feature to do it manually. Perhaps you could try one of those.
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Or you could just, you know...not be a dickhead about it.
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Scooter wrote:I'm sorry that you are using a substandard browser that doesn't reduce automatically to a standard size for you, or that you unable to use your zoom feature to do it manually. Perhaps you could try one of those.
I'm going to save that one for the next time I get image-size shamed by Strop... :mrgreen: :ok
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Its not just him...offhand, my phone won't display gigantic images.
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In fairness, I think that's it...

It's not a "substandard browser" issue, it's a smart phone thing...
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Scooter wrote:I'm sorry that you are using a substandard browser that doesn't reduce automatically to a standard size for you, or that you unable to use your zoom feature to do it manually. Perhaps you could try one of those.

I'm sorry that you are using a substandard brain which cannot post in a way legible to others but what that means is that you are cancelling yourself. In advance. Thanks, asshole.



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Scooter wrote:I'm sorry that you are using a substandard browser that doesn't reduce automatically to a standard size for you, or that you unable to use your zoom feature to do it manually. Perhaps you could try one of those.
I'm not using a smartphone, I've got an HP Pavilion g7 (with a 17-inch screen, btw), running Windows 7 and Firefox 48.0 — what's so sub-standard about that?
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Firefox? :shrug
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Jarlaxle wrote:Firefox? :shrug
It's a free, 'open-source' browser from Mozilla and provides an alternative to Microsoft IE or Google Chrome, and has its roots in the old Netscape 'Navigator' browser from the good ol' days.
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And it's shit. And they have donated money to various anti-gay causes. Which sort of go hand in hand.
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Bicycle Bill wrote:
Jarlaxle wrote:Firefox? :shrug
It's a free, 'open-source' browser from Mozilla and provides an alternative to Microsoft IE or Google Chrome, and has its roots in the old Netscape 'Navigator' browser from the good ol' days.
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You need to reboot your sense of humor... :beat
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