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Speaking to the Dale posts quoted just above, about the Donald's family--I believe he understands no conflict or irony in his own family history compared to the broken families, all over the place, at record levels.
After all, he is the grandfather that has nothing to say about his grandchildren beyond ten seconds. He just does not think much about anything.
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After all, he is the grandfather that has nothing to say about his grandchildren beyond ten seconds. He just does not think much about anything.
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TRUMP IS SERIOUS!!!!!
Donald Trump Says Men Who Take Care of Their Kids Are Acting 'Like the Wife'
http://fortune.com/2016/04/24/trump-act-like-wife/
http://fortune.com/2016/04/24/trump-act-like-wife/

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Christ, what an asshole.RayThom wrote:Donald Trump Says Men Who Take Care of Their Kids Are Acting 'Like the Wife'
http://fortune.com/2016/04/24/trump-act-like-wife/
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Apparently he wanted to make sure people remembered that he's a sexist MCP as well as a racist bigot.Sue U wrote:Christ, what an asshole.RayThom wrote:Donald Trump Says Men Who Take Care of Their Kids Are Acting 'Like the Wife'
http://fortune.com/2016/04/24/trump-act-like-wife/

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On Wednesday, the Kellyanne Conway version of Donald Trump shows up:
But the next day, it was back to Donald Trump, Steve Bannon Edition:
Okay, well that's all uhh, very confusing...
But no problem, I'm sure official Trump campaign Spokes-Trumpford Wife Katrina "Obama Invaded Afghanistan" Pierson will be able to clear this right up:
Ahh, he didn't change his position he, "just changed his words"...
It all makes perfect sense now...
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/24/politics/ ... tizenship/Trump suggests major shift on deportations
Washington (CNN)
Donald Trump suggested Wednesday that he would allow exceptions to let some undocumented immigrants to stay in the US, vowing he wouldn't grant them citizenship but telling Fox News, "there's no amnesty, but we work with them."
For Trump, whose rise to the Republican nomination was based in large part on his hardline immigration policies, the comments are the clearest sign yet that he is reconsidering his pledge to deport all of the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in the US, a key part of his campaign platform.
"No citizenship. Let me go a step further -- they'll pay back-taxes, they have to pay taxes, there's no amnesty, as such, there's no amnesty, but we work with them," Trump told Sean Hannity when asked if he would allow for exceptions to his long-held position. [Essentially the same position he excoriated Jeb, Rubio and Kasich for.]
He continued: "Now, everybody agrees we get the bad ones out. But when I go through and I meet thousands and thousands of people on this subject -- and I've had very strong people come up to me, really great, great people come up to me -- and they've said, 'Mr. Trump, I love you, but to take a person who's been here for 15 or 20 years and throw them and their family out, it's so tough, Mr. Trump,' I have it all the time. It's a very, very hard thing."
At the same event, Trump also indicated an openness to "softening" his immigration policies, which also includes building a wall on the border with Mexico.
Trump all week has made rumblings about a position change, and he had previously planned to deliver an immigration speech this week in Colorado. But the address was postponed as he and his advisers indicated that his positions on key tenants of immigration policy were not settled.
But the next day, it was back to Donald Trump, Steve Bannon Edition:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... mmigrants/Trump, shifting back, now says no legal status for all 11 million illegal immigrants
Donald Trump on Thursday appeared to shift back to some version of the hard-line immigration posture he adopted in the GOP primary, telling CNN that he does not support a path to legal status for illegal immigrants unless they leave the country and return legally.
The comment added a new layer of confusion to the GOP presidential nominee's position on one of his signature issues. This week, Trump and his aides have softened their rhetoric on immigration, signaling an openness to legalizing many of the nation's 11 million illegal immigrants despite Trump's long-standing vow to deport them all.
In a CNN interview that aired Thursday evening, Anderson Cooper asked Trump: "So if they haven’t committed a crime is there going to be a path to legalization? I’m not talking about citizenship."
Trump responded: "First thing we’re going to do. No is not a path — there is no path to legalization unless people leave the country. When they come back in, if they come back in, then they can start paying taxes but there is no path to legalization unless they leave the country and come back."
In seeming to shift back towards his original position, Trump acknowledged that he would not be able to easily and efficiently deport all 11 million people at once. Trump said that "bad dudes" would be deported as soon as he took office, a group he described as containing "probably millions." He did not say what would happen to the remaining immigrants, but he did say "there is a very good chance" they would eventually be deported.
"It's a process. You can't take 11 at one time and just say: 'Boom, you're gone,'" Trump said.
Despite the array of positions Trump has floated this week, he insisted that his position has not changed.
"I don't think it's a softening," he said. "I've had people say it's a hardening, actually."
Okay, well that's all uhh, very confusing...

But no problem, I'm sure official Trump campaign Spokes-Trumpford Wife Katrina "Obama Invaded Afghanistan" Pierson will be able to clear this right up:
Ahh, he didn't change his position he, "just changed his words"...
It all makes perfect sense now...



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What a giant steaming pile of fail. This is the most embarrassing presidential campaign ever mounted.That Andy Borowitz joke about redirecting RNC funds to alcohol seems like the best possible option.
GAH!
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11 at a time--what an ass.
TRUMP IS SERIOUS!!!!!
Katrina Pierson -- pathetic and exasperating, yet she maintains a stoic countenance the entire time. If Drumpf somehow wins the grand prize I bet he appoints this female-like automaton as his press secretary.
2016: a general election like the world has never seen before. God bless America.
2016: a general election like the world has never seen before. God bless America.

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That's Trump shorthand (or brain short circuit). He intends that to mean 11 million.Big RR wrote:11 at a time--what an ass.
So he has this plan (I use the term loserly) to deport "the bad ones" immediately - probably millions, as he put it - and get around to the rest later because you can't deport all 11 (million) at one time.
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
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I guess he's inventing some sort of tranporter, or maybe a continuous conveyer belt to Mexico to handle all those people? Or maybe he is a wizard (maybe even a grand wizard
) and can just say Poof and they are really gone. That makes even less sense than 11 at a time for, say, a million days--so long as you keep the genders apaprt so they don't breed. 


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He also said yesterday on Anderson Cooper's show that the number of illegal aliens in the country is somewhere between five million and thirty million, so he's obviously got a good handle on the dimensions of the problem...



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According to Numbers USA they have the DHS as saying there are 11.4 million illegals in the USA, PEW research saying 11.3 million and some demographer for the census bureau and INS says 12 million.
I have heard in years past some estimates approaching 35 million but I haven't heard of those numbers in years, since before the Obama presidency.
And before someone brings up that Obama has deported more under his admin than in the past, that is only because he changed how he counts deportations. The Obama admin counts people turned back at the border as deportations.
From NumbersUSA:
[full disclosure]I am a member of NumbersUSA and have been since illegals started moving into my town[/full disclosure]
I have heard in years past some estimates approaching 35 million but I haven't heard of those numbers in years, since before the Obama presidency.
And before someone brings up that Obama has deported more under his admin than in the past, that is only because he changed how he counts deportations. The Obama admin counts people turned back at the border as deportations.
From NumbersUSA:
https://www.numbersusa.org/pages/illegal-aliens-usUnder President Obama, DHS has claimed that deportations (officially “removals”) had reached an all-time high. These “record deportations” were achieved not by removing more illegal aliens from the country than under previous administrations, but by changing the way deportations were counted. Under President Obama, DHS began to add the number of illegal aliens apprehended and returned at the border to those removed from the interior of the country –something which had previously been done. Under Obama, the fewest number of illegal aliens have been removed from the country since President Gerald Ford (1974-1977).
[full disclosure]I am a member of NumbersUSA and have been since illegals started moving into my town[/full disclosure]
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to be fair, Numbers USA is not an unbiased group when it comes to undocumented immigrants so, although I haven't researched these claims, I would take them with a grain of salt.
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Fair enough for the "deportation claim".
But the numbers given for amount of illegals were not from NumbersUSA, they quoted from other sources (PEW,INS etc.)
I suppose they could play fast and loose, but they would easily be debunked.
But the numbers given for amount of illegals were not from NumbersUSA, they quoted from other sources (PEW,INS etc.)
I suppose they could play fast and loose, but they would easily be debunked.
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The Republican party created Trump by continuing to whip up fear and hatred of illegal immigrants many years after it had stopped being an issue:

Using immoral means of generating ignorant hatred in the electorate has backfired on them, catastrophically. Good.
Somewhat ironically, the largest increase occurred during the BushCo years.
yrs,
rubato

Using immoral means of generating ignorant hatred in the electorate has backfired on them, catastrophically. Good.
Somewhat ironically, the largest increase occurred during the BushCo years.
yrs,
rubato
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Since I had never heard of Katrina Pierson prior to this campaign, I thought I'd do a little research on her..(I was a little surprised; I thought that maybe she had worked for Trump for years, and then he switched her over to this woefully unsuitable position.):
https://ballotpedia.org/Katrina_Pierson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katrina_Pierson
http://www.snopes.com/katrina-pierson-s ... mployment/
I have to admit that after learning about her background, I find her to be a much more interesting person then I did previously. She's had a very unusual journey...
I compiled this post from three sources:Early life
Pierson was born in Kansas[2] to a white mother and a black father.[3] Her mother, who gave birth to her at age 15,[1] initially gave her up for adoption, but later changed her mind.[3] She grew up with her mother, in poverty.[3]
According to Politico, she "grew up on welfare and gave birth to a child of her own at a young age, raising him as a single mother after her short-lived marriage to the boy’s father ended in divorce."[12] In 1997, just before she turned 21, Pierson was arrested for shoplifting and pleaded no contest to the charges.
She reportedly took $168 in merchandise from a J. C. Penney store in Plano, Texas, and had her then three-month old son with her at the time of the incident.[1] Pierson told authorities she needed the clothes for job interviews. She has said that the incident helped turn her life around, showing her that mistakes often come with consequences.[1]
Pierson received an associate of science degree from Kilgore College.[4] In 2006, she earned a bachelors in biology from the University of Texas at Dallas.
Pierson worked for InVentiv Health in 2008; the Baylor Health Care System from July 2009 to August 2011, as a practice administrator;[7] for ASG Software Solutions, as the director of corporate affairs, from May 2011 to December 2012;[8] and then in variety of jobs until being hired by the Trump campaign, in November 2015.[9][10] In 2013, she received $11,000 in unemployment benefits from the Texas Workforce Commission
Pierson's LinkedIn profile shows that she worked at Florida-based ASG Software Solutions until December 2012, and her disclosure form states that she received over $100,000 in salary from that company in 2012, so presumably the loss of that employment (for which Pierson blamed Obamacare) was what qualified her for unemployment insurance benefits:
Early political involvement“Not sure what the scandal is here,” [Pierson] told the Austin news website Quorum Report, which first reported the [unemployment] payments. “A single mom getting child support loses her job because of Obamacare and had unemployment.”
ASG did not respond to calls to confirm whether it laid off anyone because of potential costs under the Affordable Care Act. A few weeks before the 2012 elections, owner David Siegel, a Florida billionaire, warned employees by email that he would have to consider layoffs if President Barack Obama were re-elected.
After earning her bachelor’s degree in biology from the University of Texas at Dallas in 2006, Katrina Pierson began working in the healthcare and pharmaceutical industries in Texas.[3]
In a 2011 interview, Pierson said she "didn’t get politically involved until the 2008 elections." After voting for Barack Obama (D), she found herself in disagreement with the policies he implemented as president.[Especially his decision to invade Afghanistan]
Pierson explained, "And that is when I was able to define my political ideology, which I’d always had but just didn’t realize it."[4] Her early political involvement was focused on developing the Garland Texas Tea Party and working as an activist "in Florida, Iowa, Arizona, Kansas, Missouri, Washington D.C., and all over Texas."[5]
Ted Cruz 2012 Senate campaign
In the 2012 election cycle, Pierson was "a vocal supporter" of Ted Cruz's (R) U.S. Senate campaign, according to The Hill.[6] Pierson campaigned with Cruz throughout the election. In February 2014, as Pierson was in her own congressional campaign, the Texas Observer reported that she "received some $11,000 in unemployment benefits from the Texas Workforce Commission from January 2012 to November 2013," when she was organizing for Cruz.
In the 2014 Texas congressional elections, Pierson challenged incumbent congressman Pete Sessions in the Republican primary to represent Texas' 32nd district.[14][15] Her candidacy was endorsed by Rafael Cruz[16] and by Sarah Palin, who called her "a feisty fighter for freedom."[14] While U.S. senator Ted Cruz offered praise, calling her an "utterly fearless principled conservative," he stopped short of an endorsement.[15]
By mid-February 2014, Pierson had received only $76,000 in campaign contributions; Sessions had received almost twenty times more.[7] In the March primary, Pierson received 36 percent of the vote, losing to Sessions, who received 63 percent
Tea Party Leadership Fund PAC
In August 2014, Pierson began work as the spokesperson for the Tea Party Leadership Fund, a PAC that Pierson called "anti-establishment."[8] In a 2011 interview, she explained her role in the tea party movement: "I am a trainer, an advisor, a consultant and a leader. My goal is to make myself available to any grass roots conservative group in any way that they might need me, whether that is to train them to do what I have done on the local level, or just to give a speech on my own personal life coming from the redistribution of wealth (background) and literally clawing my way out from that system that’s designed to keep you in it."[4] In October 2015, according to National Review, "Pierson was sending out e-mails urging people to donate to the group so they could help make Rep. Trey Gowdy the next Speaker of the House."[9]
The Tea Party Leadership Fund was the subject of media scrutiny in 2014. The Daily Beast reported that of the group's nearly $5 million in receipts, they spent "87 percent on expenses and 13 percent to candidates."[10] The Washington Post also noted that the PAC "doled out a quarter of a million dollars to eight consulting firms."[11]
“We all have to pay the bills, but for Katrina, there is no principle that she isn’t willing to abandon for the right price,” complained Matt Mackowiak, an unaligned Republican consultant from Texas.
Pierson left the PAC to join the Trump campaign in November 2015.[6]
Donald Trump presidential campaign
In January 2015, Pierson attended a meeting for Tea Party activists in Myrtle Beach with Ted Cruz. [5] While in Myrtle Beach, she also met with Donald Trump.[5] After meeting with Trump or his aides a few more times, Pierson introduced Trump at a campaign rally held in Dallas in September. In November 2015 she was hired as the national spokesperson for Trump's campaign.
Pierson commented to The Dallas Morning News that much of her job is to contextualize some of Trump's high-profile comments. She said, "The truth is, no one truly interesting is universally liked. So, most of the spin is to correct the biased reporting when he is pulled out of context. The things he says are only controversial because we have evolved into a cupcake society. Everyone is offended by everything thanks to years of political correctness."[13]
Public comments
Pierson on CNN discussing Trump's proposal to ban Muslim travel to the U.S., December 9, 2015
Muslim travel ban
She made the news herself when speaking of Trump's proposal to ban all Muslim travel to the U.S. When CNN commentator S.E. Cupp said the proposal went too far, Pierson dismissed the criticism, saying, "So what? They’re Muslim."[14]
Bullet necklace
Pierson again made news on December 29, 2015, when she appeared on CNN wearing "a necklace of strung-together bullets."[15] When asked about the accessory on Twitter by CNN's Jim Sciutto, Pierson replied that the necklace was made of genuine Texas ammunition. Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, sarcastically tweeted that Pierson must have worn the necklace to draw attention to victims of gun violence; Pierson replied, "Maybe I’ll wear a fetus next time& bring awareness to 50 million aborted people that will never get to be on Twitter." She finished commenting on the necklace by calling critics "sexist."
Humayun Khan
Speaking with CNN on August 2, 2016, Pierson blamed President Barack Obama (D) for the death of Humayun Khan, any Army captain who died in combat in 2004. Khan's parents, Ghazala and Khizr Khan, condemned Trump during the 2016 Democratic National Convention. In response to the Khans' criticism of Trump, Pierson said, "It was under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton that changed the rules of engagement that probably cost his life."[19]
Hillary Clinton health
On August 18, 2016, speaking with MSNBC about the Trump campaign's emphasis on Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's health, Pierson stated that Clinton was suffering from "dysphasia," a language and speech disorder stemming from brain disease or damage. [look who's talking] She said, "What's new are the other reports of the observations of Hillary Clinton's behavior and mannerisms, specifically with what you just showed in those previous clips, as well as her dysphasia, the fact that she's fallen, she has had a concussion. ... It's something that needs to be addressed. She's taken a lot of time off the campaign trail."
https://ballotpedia.org/Katrina_Pierson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katrina_Pierson
http://www.snopes.com/katrina-pierson-s ... mployment/
I have to admit that after learning about her background, I find her to be a much more interesting person then I did previously. She's had a very unusual journey...



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I completely missed this. Good god, asshole doesn't even come close. Tight, sore-covered, oozing, festering, gaseous, asshole, maybe.Sue U wrote:Christ, what an asshole.RayThom wrote:Donald Trump Says Men Who Take Care of Their Kids Are Acting 'Like the Wife'
http://fortune.com/2016/04/24/trump-act-like-wife/
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FTFYouseGuinevere wrote:I completely missed this. Good god, Asshole doesn't even come close. Tight, sore-covered, oozing, festering, gaseous, asshole, maybe.Sue U wrote:Christ, What an asshole.RayThom wrote:Donald Trump Says Men Who Take Care of Their Kids Are Acting 'Like the Wife'
http://fortune.com/2016/04/24/trump-act-like-wife/
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
TRUMP IS SERIOUS!!!!!
Katrina Pierson: that's a wonderful triumph over adversity bio -- she has drive and ambition. Bless her little heart.
I think she should stick with biology in order to give us some scientific research into that living parasite known as Drumpf before it infects us all.
I think she should stick with biology in order to give us some scientific research into that living parasite known as Drumpf before it infects us all.

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Lord Jim wrote:I have to admit that after learning about her background, I find her to be a much more interesting person then I did previously.
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