Charles Manson Dept.

[oldr_n_wsr]

The most heinous should never be released.

I can't read/hear that word without thinking of the movie "My Cousin Vinnie".
we now return you to your previous discussion

[dales]

Looks like Leslie won't be gettin' out anytime soon.

June 28, 2016, 4:10 PM



The Los Angeles County district attorney has asked Gov. Jerry Brown to deny parole for former Manson “family” member Leslie Van Houten, who was convicted along with other members of the cult in the 1969 killings of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca.

In a letter dated Friday, Dist. Atty. Jackie Lacey told the governor that she “strongly” opposed releasing Van Houten, calling her unsuitable for parole and a threat to public safety.


Van Houten, 66, had been denied parole 19 times since being convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison, but a two-member review board in April recommended her for parole. Lacey said Van Houten downplayed her role in the deadly killings and continued to maintain “a disturbingly distorted view of Charles Manson.”

“She clearly lacks insight, genuine remorse, and an understanding of the magnitude of her crimes," Lacey wrote in the six-page letter. "The viciousness of the murders, the relationship of those murders to the effort to incite the 'Helter Skelter' race war, and Van Houten's attempts to minimize her criminal responsibility, make her an unreasonable risk of danger to society."

The parole recommendation is still under administrative review, a process that can take up to four months. If upheld, it will be forwarded to Brown, who has until mid-September to either accept or reverse the parole board’s decision. Others, including the sister of Sharon Tate, the pregnant actress killed during the Manson followers’ rampage, have also pressed the governor to keep Van Houten in prison.

Van Houten’s attorney, Rich Pfeiffer, has previously told The Times that his client was long overdue for release, listing her accomplishments behind bars: earning bachelor’s and master’s degrees, running self-help groups and facilitating victim-offender reconciliation sessions.

“The opposition to parole has always been the name Manson,” Pfeiffer said in April shortly after she was granted parole following a hearing at the California Institution for Women in Chino.

“A lot of people who oppose parole don’t know anything about Leslie’s conduct,” the attorney said. “Her role was bad. Everyone’s was. But they don’t know what she’s done since then and all of the good she’s done.”


This story will be updated as more information becomes available.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

[Lord Jim]

Good for the DA.

[Lord Jim]

Good for Jerry

Charles Manson Follower Leslie Van Houten Denied Parole by California Gov. Jerry Brown

By Karen Mizoguchi

07/23/2016 AT 12:00 AM EDT
Leslie Van Houten, the youngest follower of murderous cult leader Charles Manson, has been denied parole by California Gov. Jerry Brown.

On Friday, Brown overturned the recommendation of a parole board that deemed Van Houten, 66, to be fit for release, the Associated Press reports. In 1969, Van Houten and several members of the Manson Family went on a two-day killing spree that left seven people dead, including actress Sharon Tate.

Van Houten, who was 19 at the time, was convicted of first-degree murder in the deaths of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca, and sentenced to life in prison. In April, a Board of Parole Hearings panel found Van Houten suitable for parole, though has already been denied parole 19 times.

"Both her role in these extraordinarily brutal crimes and her inability to explain her willing participation in such horrific violence cannot be overlooked and lead me to believe she remains an unacceptable risk to society if released," Brown said in a statement, according to AP.

In June, Los Angeles County District Attorney Jackie Lacey penned a five-page letter to Brown, asking that he deny parole to the former follower because she "poses an unreasonable risk to public safety."

That same month, Tate's sister, Debra, delivered signatures to Brown's office and has led the opposition against releasing Manson family members.

http://www.people.com/article/charles-m ... ole-denied

[dales]

It would be political suicide to release her (or any Manson follower for that matter) originally charged with the murders.

[Burning Petard]

“She clearly lacks insight, genuine remorse, and an understanding of the magnitude of her crimes,"

So? How does that make her different from most others in prison, for what ever reason? There is in our local, state, national prison systems a complete avoidance of the fact that most of them are gonna get out some day. What is society doing to these prisoners that will have any probability of even a 50/50 chance that they will become law-abiding contributors to society if they do not die while they are in prison?

snailgate

[Lord Jim]

Van Houten and another woman held down Rosemary LaBianca as Charles “Tex” Watson stabbed Leno LaBianca. After Watson stabbed Rosemary LaBianca, he handed Van Houten a knife. She testified to stabbing the woman at least 14 more times.

"And I took one of the knives, and Patricia had one a knife, and we started stabbing and cutting up the lady," Van Houten testified in 1971. (Patricia Krenwinkle was a co-denfendant and family member).

In chilling detail, Van Houten described the killing of Rosemary LaBianca, who offered anything to have her life spared.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

[Bicycle Bill]

It would be political suicide to release her (or any Manson follower for that matter) originally charged with the murders.

And when they die, they should be buried in a grave marked only with their prison number.
Damn right I'm vindictive.

-"BB"-

[Lord Jim]

Manson, Van Houghton, Krenwinkel, Watson, and Davis...

The remaining living members of Manson's murder gang...

should all have been executed decades ago...

The fact that they're still alive represents far more mercy then they deserve...

[Bicycle Bill]

Manson, Van Houghton, Krenwinkel, Watson, and Davis...

The remaining living members of Manson's murder gang...

should all have been executed decades ago...

The fact that they're still alive represents far more mercy then they deserve...

Agreed and the record shows that Manson and four of the others were sentenced to death in 1971, but in 1972 the California Supreme Court declared the death penalty to be unconstitutional and commuted their sentences to life imprisonment so I suppose, like it or not, we have to accept it.

Too bad they just weren't short lives, similar to Jeffrey Dahmer's.

-"BB"-

[dales]

Reporter asks Charles Manson for his election thoughts, gets a creepy letter in response


When you send a letter to Charles Manson, you've got to expect that this would be the response.

Buzzfeed political reporter Andrew Kaczynski learned this first-hand when he received a letter from the infamous cult leader, complete with bespoke envelope and tribal-style drawings:

The letter was in response to Kaczynski's query about what Manson thought about the current presidential election.

"1-2+3 world lies," Manson wrote back. The whole thing is deeply unsettling, far from cogent and offers no discernible thoughts on Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.


Manson is currently serving a life sentence at Corcoran State Prison for his role in ordering the 1969 Tate-LaBianca murders.

Kaczynski said on Twitter he also sent a letter to the Unabomber but has yet to hear a reply.

[Lord Jim]

deeply unsettling, far from cogent and offers no discernible thoughts

He could be a speech writer for Trump...

[Gob]

deeply unsettling, far from cogent and offers no discernible thoughts

He could be a speech writer for Trump...

or it could be rubato...

[Lord Jim]

deeply unsettling, far from cogent and offers no discernible thoughts

He could be a speech writer for Trump...

or it could be rubato...

I had the same thought, but he's more deeply amusing than deeply unsettling...

[rubato]

There is nothing I could say which would make you two look worse than what you have both volunteered.

Scum, and an astonishingly low level of scum at that.


yrs,
rubato

[MajGenl.Meade]

Andrew Kaczynski? He wrote a letter to the Unabomber? Theodore John "Ted" Kaczynski? That Unabomber?

[Gob]

Scum, and an astonishingly low level of scum at that.


yrs,
rubato

Many a true word spoken in error.

[rubato]

Your own statements make you out the worst there is.

A coward.

Yrs,
Rubato

[Gob]

Your own statements make you out the worst there is.

A coward.

Yrs,
Rubato

Yes Aspy, I'm sure in your weird and warped world view they do.

However, back on planet sane you continue to be a laughing stock.

[Lord Jim]

he's more deeply amusing than deeply unsettling...

There is nothing I could say which would make you two look worse than what you have both volunteered.

Scum, and an astonishingly low level of scum at that.


yrs,
rubato

See what I mean?