THE SMACKDOWN AT HOFSTRA

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I have no doubt that our old friend Steve would like Trump, especially this photo of him...

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Ah, the famed mythological Pigtaur...
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Now don't be disrespectful of your next President please.
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Here's the kind of alternate reality you are required to embrace when sell your soul to Donald Trump:



Like Kellyanne Conway, (and unlike many of the rank and file Trumpanzees) Miller is a person who actually knows better than the nonsense he is spouting:
Jason Miller is senior communications adviser for the Donald Trump presidential campaign. He was hired to replace Corey Lewandowski, who was fired. Jason was previously an aide to Ted Cruz during the 2016 Republican primary. [5] Upon taking the job, Miller deleted his anti-Trump tweets. [6] [7]

Jason is a native of Seattle, Washington. He now lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and their seven year-old daughter. [2] 

Before the campaigns, Jason was a partner at Jamestown Associates since 2010, where he managed campaigns and shaped messages for successful House, Senate and gubernatorial races in addition to serving on the senior staffs of two presidential campaigns. Miller’s winning clients have included the comeback campaigns of Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin and South Carolina Congressman Mark Sanford, as well as more than a dozen other successful statewide and Congressional campaigns.

In the 2008 election cycle, Miller served as National Deputy Communications Director on the presidential campaign of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, overseeing the campaign’s rapid response efforts and speaking with the national press corps.

Source: https://www.everipedia.com/jason-miller ... z4LpejIQRM
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I hate to have to be the one to point this out to you, LJ, but it appears that the GOP no longer cares about integrity of any sort.
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BoSoxGal wrote:I hate to have to be the one to point this out to you, LJ, but it appears that the GOP no longer cares about integrity of any sort.

They were bankrupted by the Roving charges, long ago.


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The Trump insists that he's a smart man. But he's not even a very nimble political animal.

In that first debate, HRC challenged him on not paying taxes in year abcd. His "that makes me smart" smugness was exactly the wrong thing to say.

He should have saved it for his turn and then pointed out that the tax laws are written by politicians (such as HRC). He used the tax codes endorsed by and supported by politicians in filing with the IRS - and in that year/those years, the IRS have accepted those returns as being perfectly legal. "All I ever did was what you politicians said was OK to do".
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Which he cannot say, because he is being audited (and is regularly audited). Why do you think he gets audited regularly? Here's a hint --- it has nothing to do with politics...
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And those audits cot how much more taxpayer money?
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Not so. In the years she referred to, he was already audited and that's history. And in the debate he quite clearly said he was always being audited. (Has nothing to do with politics, true true).

But instead of the stupid "I'm so smart" answer, why can't he give an attack response? He is using the laws put in place by politicians.

If he's really running some kind of outsider non-politician campaign (and had an ounce of brains) that's the kind of response he should be making. Among many reasons for his unfitness for office, that's another one - he cannot offer rational responses to softball tosses.
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I was talking to my doctor today and he agreed with my diagnosis of Trump. I said that Trump is unstable and his inability to control his mouth and his constant denying of having said things when the truth is well documented is indicative a a mentally ill person or the devil incarnate.

My doctor agreed with me and added that as much as he detests Hillary Clinton, it is important that he vote for her. I said that I would vote for Hillary too if he would prescribe me some Oxycontin and Valium.

Now I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round....

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as much as he detests Hillary Clinton, it is important that he vote for her.
That's pretty much where I'm coming from... :?
He should have saved it for his turn and then pointed out that the tax laws are written by politicians (such as HRC). He used the tax codes endorsed by and supported by politicians in filing with the IRS - and in that year/those years, the IRS have accepted those returns as being perfectly legal. "All I ever did was what you politicians said was OK to do".
Gen'l, I'm glad that you aren't advising Mr. Drumpf....

Though it probably wouldn't matter if you were; he doesn't seem to listen to anybody anyway...
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30 years ago my wife worked for the accounting firm that did Trumps tax returns. Audits were routine for his returns. Also they typically had to get deadline extensions which is a sure way to get audited.

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A rave review from The Irish Times!!
  • Now that the end is nigh, it’s finally time to review Donald Trump

    The final season of ‘America’ began on Monday night, and the sense of apocalyptic
    dread was palpable right from the off


    Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 17:04 | Updated: Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 17:21
    Patrick Freyne

    I'm quite enjoying the final season of “America” (The US Presidential Debate, Monday, BBC News). This week’s episode was excellent and I think we’re in for an exciting finale. And then humanity will leave the stage and it will be the insects’ turn to be this planet’s dominant species. I think you’ll agree: we’ve had a good run.

    As a television reviewer, this is my moment. America has had television presidents before (Kennedy, Reagan, Bartlet) but Donald Trump is an actual television character not a human person with a social security number and/or a soul. It’s as if Alf from the sitcom Alf was running for president (he’ll probably run in 2020 if America survives that long). Also: Trump is the same colour as Alf.

    So the debate is kind of fun if you’re a clickbait-chasing columnist who enjoys apocalyptic dread. Indeed, US discourse is now so divided, I wasn’t entirely sure these two candidates could exist in the same space and dimension. Hillary Clinton is a human woman who has served as Secretary of State. Trump is a CGI-animation created by the internet in its first phase of sentient madness.

    Ultimately Clinton, wearing a suit dyed red with the blood of her enemies, emerges looking pretty presidential. Well, she does, if you hold fast to the ideas of the old world – that policy should be partially fact-based, that politicians need to be consistent, at least from sentence to sentence, and that your leaders should read their briefs and not just wear them on their heads while throwing their own shit at you.

    Stylistically, her role is to be a straight woman to Trump, who has modelled his performance on a basket of cats. She calmly laughs at his more outlandish statements or remains impassive at his insults or stares at him with faux amazement, as if to say “get a load of this guy”.


    Shaved tribble
    Trump blusters and purrs and expands and contracts like a shaved tribble. He is standing against a wall inscribed with the incantations and computer codes which were used to summon him and bind him to this realm [editor’s note – that’s the Declaration of Independence].

    His eyebrows are arched like eagle’s wings over the little buttons he has for eyes. His lips are always either pursed like Pob’s or arranged in a smug line like Zippy from Rainbow. His flesh is the same colour as his hair, much like a baby doll in a skip. He is a colour that has never existed on earth before (except for Alf). There’s a border zone where his forehead gives way to hairline. It’s fuzzy at this intermediary zone, and if you look into the fuzz you will see the face of Kalki, the final avatar of Vishnu, screaming the one true name of God.

    When he speaks, Trump makes dainty hand gestures with his finger buds to emphasise his points. His favourite gesture is to make an “O” with his index finger and his thumb and he gesticulates wildly with this “O” as though punching an annoying puppy on the head. If you look into that “O” you will see the future. And the future is stupid and weird and filled with dying, confused animals branded with the word “Trump”.

    “Words matter,” says Clinton. And Trump knows that. He says words all the time even though his more natural mode of expression is a terrifying, lonely, high-pitched scream. Today, he vomits out sentence fragments like a cursed, badly programmed chatbot. Sometimes, after he says the words, he will say “I never said that” about the same words. Listening to Trump talk for longer than a minute is like having a dissociative episode.

    Here are things Trump says:

    He wants NATO countries to pay the US military or he can’t guarantee their protection. He wants racist stop-and- search policies in major cities. He settled that racial discrimination suit out of court, he says. He understands “cyber” because his son is good at computers. The current US president was born in the US, probably. He will restore the fortunes of ordinary Americans by liberating the rich from taxes and regulation. He started his business with a “small loan” from his father ($14 million). He will not be the first person to use nuclear weapons in a stand-off, but he will not rule out being the first to use nuclear weapons in a stand-off. He doesn’t pay very much tax because he’s smart. “Trump!” thinks Trump.

    The average Trump supporter
    Clinton wins the debate by responding with facts, experience and actual policies, but then I would say that, because I’m from a country which still has a social security net. I have no idea what the average Trump supporter can see. None of us has shared the same reality since Roger Ailes first opened the portal to hell.

    Clinton and her ilk have to take some of the blame. For 30 years, supposedly progressive politicians have helped support the development of a global elite and have largely ignored the destruction of the local middle class. And years of soft lies from all sides have slowly loosened the truth entirely from its moorings. Trump really didn’t come from nowhere.

    Members of that wounded, declining American middle-class now believe facts are entirely a matter of taste. They are desperate and angry and are intent on making Trump – a venal, petty, racist liar – the last president of the United States. On the plus side, it will make for some excellent television.
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Drumpf's Tax Records:
http://nyti.ms/2d56jO2

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Christie and Giuliani were on the morning shows today claiming Trump is a "genius" for not paying taxes -- and using the system per Meade's comments above. Of course, what all three of them fail to acknowledge is that the reason he paid no taxes is that he claimed almost a billion dollar loss. I think that cuts against the "genius" label.

The Clinton campaign is citing it as an example of the "rigged" system that benefits the wealthy at the expense of the middle class.
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Donald J. Trump declared a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax returns, a tax deduction so substantial it could have allowed him to legally avoid paying any federal income taxes for up to 18 years, records obtained by The New York Times show.
Quite right, Guin - it doesn't take "genius" to lose a billion dollars in business - it takes a failure.
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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Donald J. Trump declared a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax returns, a tax deduction so substantial it could have allowed him to legally avoid paying any federal income taxes for up to 18 years, records obtained by The New York Times show.
Quite right, Guin - it doesn't take "genius" to lose a billion dollars in business - it takes a failure.
Multiple failures.
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Sue U wrote:Multiple failures.
Point. However, I was thinking of the failure as the man himself, rather than the businesses. Points all round!
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