San Francisco Is It Still "Everyone's Favorite City"?

Burning Petard · Post by **Burning Petard** » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:12 pm

Well, it was never my favorite city--way too many nasty hills to enjoy riding around on a bicycle. Worse than Kansas City Mo.

If it wasn't for The Wall, it would be Washington DC. I can't help getting way too angry whenever I see The Wall. But I love it other wise.
The subway system now is breaking down, but then again, so am I.

It took me a while to get used to the way 'street people' would leave a bundle of possessions under a park bench and expect it all to be undisturbed a few hours later, but now I sort of like that about DC.

Needles and such are around everywhere. The University of Delaware has a regular patrol with puncture resistant gloves under rubber glove who search the bathrooms all over campus for abandoned sharps.

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Big RR · Post by **Big RR** » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:24 pm

Washington is far too hot most of the year for my taste; San Francisco has the best climate of any major US city IMHO. I have 3 favorite cities, however, NY, Boston, and San Francisco. All are walking cities where you can walk from place to place (OK San Francisco has hills, but that's good for the cardiovascular system).

Needles? As you said, they are everywhere--even at the beaches. If feces are increasing, I would think you'd need to get some sort of public restroom facilities so people can use them. I would bet few people prefer to defecate on the street/sidewalk.

rubato · Post by **rubato** » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:54 pm

This data is available, and the maps are available, because they are aware the problem exists and are trying to make it better.

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rubato

Joe Guy · Post by **Joe Guy** » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:26 pm

SF has its shit together. That's the point of the maps.

dales · Post by **dales** » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:05 pm

Perhaps if the mass oozes towards the avenues, we might hear from Lord Jim.

Bicycle Bill · Post by **Bicycle Bill** » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:18 pm

Gotta wonder how The City By The Bay (population roughly 835,000) manages to get by with only eleven supervisors, while my hometown (La Crosse WI; population approximately 50,000) requires seventeen aldermen and La Crosse County itself has a total of TWENTY-NINE district supervisors?

-"BB"-

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:32 pm

I live in the Outer Sunset ( District 4) which I am pleased to see has the lowest reports of feces and needles in the city...

I'm certainly not surprised. Even though it's technically a part of the city, it is far more suburban than urban, and homeless/street people are pretty much a rarity. (When one occasionally does show up they don't stay long...(a few months ago one guy tried to "camp" in Pine Lake Park, and he got rousted out by the cops after one night)

Sometimes you'll encounter a few at the beach, but they don't try to live there long term; they're just passing through...

District 6 includes the Tenderloin, San Francisco's own version of The Black Hole Of Calcutta...

Long Run · Post by **Long Run** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:17 am

Joe Guy wrote:SF has its shit together. That's the point of the maps.

RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:12 am

LJ, I envisioned you living in a Protrero Hill-type dwelling. However, living so close to the beach no doubt has its advantages. Is your house highlighted in this vid?

dales · Post by **dales** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:02 am

It's the home with the large portrait of RONALD REAGAN in the front window.

Bicycle Bill · Post by **Bicycle Bill** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:29 am

dales wrote:It's the home with the large illuminated portrait of RONALD REAGAN in the front window.

Fixed it for you, dales.

-"BB"-

Joe Guy · Post by **Joe Guy** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:32 am

It's on velvet too...

RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:29 am

And gilded frame.

Big RR · Post by **Big RR** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:47 pm

The picture with the praying hands, or the one of Reagan eating a hot pepper?

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:11 pm

I see we've got a whole bunch of Jan Murray wannabes here...

Ray, I recognize many of the locations and some of the businesses in that video, (I've eaten at that Asian crab restaurant; over priced and overrated) but it looks like most of it was shot closer to Golden Gate park then where we live. (Except for the surf shop which is on Sloat. The omelette place was also near us, but they've gone out of business)

Long Run · Post by **Long Run** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:52 pm

My grandfather grew up in Sunset and would tell me stories of running to the ocean over the sand dunes of what is now Outer Sunset.

rubato · Post by **rubato** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:58 pm

Long Run wrote:
Joe Guy wrote:SF has its shit together. That's the point of the maps.

Portland Oregon being, by contrast, a promised land for the homeless.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/portla ... 14185.html

My hometown, Portland, Oregon, has a homelessness problem. Portland is often called the City of Bridges—more than a dozen cross the Willamette and Columbia Rivers—and beneath almost all, at one time or another, one sees miserable-looking camps constructed of tents, plastic tarps, and shopping carts. It’s impossible to avoid running into homeless people downtown, where ragged people sleep on park benches and in doorways, and where you can’t walk long without being hit up for spare change. You can hardly drive near the city center without encountering men or women holding up cardboard signs asking for money at an intersection.

Roughly 620,000 people live in Portland, and the suburbs push the metro area population to more than 2.3 million. As of January 2015, Multnomah County, which includes most of the city proper and all the city center, had 3,801 homeless people. Of these, according to the county’s biennial count, about 800 live in temporary shelters, 1,000 are in transitional housing, and more than 1,800 are “unsheltered”—that is, sleeping under bridges, in parks, and on sidewalks.

Almost everyone who visits me asks what’s wrong with this place. Portland is a prosperous, high-tech Pacific Rim city, so why does it have so many street people? Is something uniquely the matter with the city? Not necessarily. But Portland is a better place to be homeless than most American cities. The weather is mild, the citizens are generous—Portlanders spend millions yearly in private donations and tax dollars trying to help the homeless—and public officials are blocked by the courts from regulating vagrancy in ways that are routine elsewhere. Some homeless actually move to Portland from other cities.

moron

yrs,
rubato

dales · Post by **dales** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:22 pm

moron

yrs,
rubato

Can't argue with that!

oldr_n_wsr · Post by **oldr_n_wsr** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:12 pm

I've never been to San Francisco. Not on my bucket list. I can't think of any city that is on my bucket list (or would be added to it). I am not a city boy. Give me a forest with a stream or a lake (aven a pond) and I am a happy camper.
And snow. I like snow.
I do want to go visit Minnesota some time. Land of 10,000 lakes and all that.

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