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Econoline
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Re: Whatever happens on Tuesday,

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oldr_n_wsr wrote:
Should some people be so ignorant or so badly informed or so strangely motivated that those individuals be discouraged or prevented from voting, as Jim Wright expressed?
Who gets to determine the criteria for voter eligebility?
One persons supposed ignorance is another persons knowledge about thier candidate.
Immigrants must pass a civics test in order to become naturalized U.S. citizens. That might be a good place to start.
  • The actual civics test is NOT a multiple choice test. During the naturalization interview, a USCIS officer will ask you up to 10 questions from the list of 100 questions in English. You must answer correctly 6 of the 10 questions to pass the civics test.

(More info, and a link to the practice test.)
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Re: Whatever happens on Tuesday,

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Most American citizens (not naturalized) could not pass that test, I'd bet.
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Although I do think many could pass the tests usually given by the immigration officer. I have been at a number of such hearings and I think they usually try not to be SOBs and ask the easier questions--things like what is the name of the president, what does the cabinet do, what is the highest US court called, etc. Most of my clients have committed all 100 questions to memory, and there are some pretty tough ones (like specific amendments by number) that I have never heard asked.

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Good job! You answered 20 of 20 questions correctly.
Hardly surprising...

Even though I had to give a wrong answer to one question in order to get that score, because the test answer was wrong... :roll:
One of the most widely held misconceptions about the Declaration of Independence is that it was signed on July 4, 1776. In fact, independence was formally declared on July 2, 1776, a date that John Adams believed would be “the most memorable epocha in the history of America.” On July 4, 1776, Congress approved the final text of the Declaration. It wasn’t signed until August 2, 1776.
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BoSoxGal wrote:Most American citizens (not naturalized) could not pass that test, I'd bet.
If the actual questions are as easy as the practice questions, that's truly terrifying.... :?
You must answer correctly 6 of the 10 questions to pass the civics test.
When I was in school, 60% was a failing grade...
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The sad thing is that, since Melania Trump is a naturalized U.S. citizen, she could probably do better on this test than her husband.
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Econoline wrote:The sad thing is that, since Melania Trump is a naturalized U.S. citizen, she could probably do better on this test than her husband.

Kim Jong-un could probably do better on this test than her husband...
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:funee:
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No. Citizens vote, period. Anything else, any type of hurdle, is unconstitutional.
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Re: Whatever happens on Tuesday,

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I am glad that tammy duckworth beat kirk .

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wesw wrote:I am glad that tammy duckworth beat kirk .
:ok :clap: I've been sending her money since she announced her intention to run.
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Guinevere wrote:I've never not voted, nor understood those who didn't. It didn't matter where I lived, whether it was temporary like college and law school, or more permanent, one of the first things I've always done a new place is register to vote. And get my library card…
I didn't bother with local elections where I used to live. Since every race was an unopposed incumbent...why bother?
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Lord Jim wrote:
Scooter wrote:It would be a good start to acknowledge that anyone who believes that the current President is a Muslim, or was born outside of the U.S., is too stupid to be trusted to vote.
I would include anyone who believes the 9/11 attack was an "inside job", thinks the moon landings were faked, believes in alien abduction, or who thinks Jerry Lewis is funny...

That last rule is specifically designed to block illegal immigrants from France from voting...
I believe the 9/11 attacks were quickly followed by a massive cover-up of all sorts of (to use Gob's vernacular) major cock-ups on the part of pretty much every intelligence agency...and am more or less convinced that cats are from another planet, or maybe another dimension. 8-)
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My wife got home about half an hour ago. I don't want to say she was busy...but she wound up almost 400 miles on my car today. (She is currently removing the "TRUMP 2016" signs from said car.)
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I didn't bother with local elections where I used to live. Since every race was an unopposed incumbent...why bother?
There were a few columns on my ballot which had the same name endorsed by all (dems, repubs, conserv, libs....). Court justices. I wrote my own name in at the bottom on those contests. There is always another choice.

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Re: Whatever happens on Tuesday,

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what gets me is that I actually believed guinwhen she posted her little poem....

I guess it only applied if she won.

disappointing .....

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Re: Whatever happens on Tuesday,

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And where exactly have I written anything that isn't in the spirit of that poem? As noted above, you're the one who turned this thread nasty. And others.

And if you think that poem means sit on my hands and submissively accept all the things Trump intend to do that are contrary to the Constitution, and just plain morally wrong, you are sadly mistaken.
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Re: Whatever happens on Tuesday,

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Econoline wrote:
wesw wrote:I am glad that tammy duckworth beat kirk .
:ok :clap: I've been sending her money since she announced her intention to run.
You realize the only reason wes is glad Duckworth won is because Kirk dared to not endorse The Leader...
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Re: Whatever happens on Tuesday,

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no, it was because he was a racist bigot..., or appeared to be, at least....



....and because duckwrth is a quality person.

I ve seen her in hearings, and listened to the questions she asked.

she is serious, not a political sycophant .

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