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Here's the reported SOS nominee receiving his medal (just last year) from the murdering thug, Vladimir Putin:

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I can't describe how completely appalled I am at the prospect of such a hardcore Putin crony becoming Secretary of State...

I'm hoping with all my fingers and toes crossed that Team Trump is getting enough blow back from Senate Republican Russia hawks that he reconsiders before making this nomination...(I disagree with Crackpot; I don't think Trump wants to suffer such a high-profile nomination defeat right at the outset of his Presidency)
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BoSoxGal wrote:Guin I heard a report on radio or tv this week that Trump's transition team has requested extensive info on EPA civil servants and in particular scientists and their CVs. Can you speak to what protections are in place, if any, to ensure that Pruitt doesn't purge the best & brightest from the agency?

eta: Actually I gather it's Department of Energy scientists that they are researching - who has attended climate change conferences, published papers on climate change, etc.
No, they will not be purged.
They will merely be "re-educated".
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Generally, federal agency and federal department employees have civil service protections. The amount of protection depends on their appointment. "Regular" employees have the highest levels of protection. "Excepted service" employees (which includes lawyers) have lower levels of protection. In either event, they have a due process right to their jobs and are not employees at will. That means there has to be notice, a hearing, and the employer has to meet some kind of cause standard before an employee can be terminated. While I have not read the cases on cause in these kinds of situations, I'm pretty sure that terminating someone for attending a conference, or publishing papers with the Agency's assent, does not constitute cause of any time, and seems to me would be a violation of the employee's first amendment rights to free speech and free association. The only such limits on their speech currently in the Hatch Act, but that's for over political activity. Now, I can imagine a scenario where it is claimed that attending these conferences, etc is "political" but it shouldn't pass the laugh test.

"Schedule A" federal employees (usually deputies and special assistant types) are lower level presidential appointees, and do not have the same protections.
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Senators Balk at Tillerson Over Putin Before He’s Nominated

Senators signaled that President-elect Donald Trump’s leading choice for secretary of state, Exxon Mobil Corp. chief Rex Tillerson, could have trouble winning confirmation because of his ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“Being a ‘friend of Vladimir’ is not an attribute I am hoping for from a #SecretaryOfState,” Florida Republican Marco Rubio, who serves on the Foreign Relations Committee that would consider Tillerson’s nomination, said Sunday in a Twitter post signed with his initials.

Criticism from Republicans such as Rubio and Senator John McCain as well as key Democrats suggest that nominating the Exxon chairman and chief executive officer could become a messy distraction for the new president. It also would become a proxy fight over Trump’s position that Putin is an effective leader with whom he can reach agreements, a stance widely unpopular among lawmakers in both parties.

In what may be a message that he’s still evaluating reaction to the choice, Trump said on Twitter on Sunday, “Whether I choose him or not for ‘State’- Rex Tillerson, the Chairman & CEO of ExxonMobil, is a world class player and dealmaker. Stay tuned![He still thinks he's producing a reality show; more interested in keeping "the audience" engaged in the "performance" than he is in the actual real-world impacts of his decisions. :roll: :loon ]

Relations between the U.S. and Russia have ebbed since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and intervention in Syria’s civil war, and Putin has expressed hope that Trump will be a more sympathetic ear in the White House than President Barack Obama, whose relationship with the Russian leader is frosty.

“I don’t know what Mr. Tillerson’s relationship with Vladimir Putin was, but I’ll tell you it is a matter of concern to me,” McCain, an Arizona Republican who’s chairman of the Armed Services Committee, said on Fox News on Saturday. “You want to give the president of the United States the benefit of the doubt because the people have spoken. But Vladimir Putin is a thug, a bully and a murderer, and anybody else who describes him as anything else is lying.” :clap:

Tillerson’s ties to Putin date back to 1999, when the pair met on Sakhalin Island in Russia’s Far East. He was awarded Russia’s Order of Friendship, a high civilian honor given to distinguished foreign nationals. As recently as 2015 he visited with officials in Putin’s inner circle. That connection could make him a useful bridge between the Russian leader and Trump in his efforts to improve U.S. relations with Moscow.

But Stephen Sestanovich, a former U.S. ambassador-at-large for the former Soviet Union, said it would be impossible for Tillerson to be effective, given his connections to Exxon and Putin.

“This is a shocking choice: If Tillerson has to recuse himself from Russia policy, he can’t do his job; if he doesn’t recuse himself, he creates the appearance of deep conflict of interest, even corruption,” Sestanovich, the George F. Kennan Senior Fellow for Russian and Eurasian Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, said in an e-mail. “This is a god-awful position for a secretary of state to be in.”

In a sign that he’d try to provide a receptive confirmation hearing for Tillerson, Corker of Tennessee said in a tweet on Saturday, “If it is Rex Tillerson, he is a very impressive individual.”

But it would take only one Republican, such as Rubio, joining all of the Foreign Relations Committee’s Democrats to block a Tillerson nomination in the committee. The nomination could be taken to the Senate floor despite a rejection in the committee, but that would be an unprecedented move for a Cabinet post.

Tensions over Trump’s views on Russia have been exacerbated by the president-elect’s continuing rejection of findings by U.S. intelligence agencies [17 agencies] that Russia was behind the hacking during the presidential campaign that led to extensive leaks of Democrats’ e-mails.

While the initial finding was that Russia’s goal was to undermine confidence in the U.S. political process, the Washington Post reported on Friday that the CIA had told senators in classified briefings that Putin’s government had gone further -- actively seeking to help Trump win election.

Trump’s transition team belittled the U.S. intelligence community in a statement on the Post report late Friday that also exaggerated Trump’s margin of victory.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/arti ... -nominated
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“Being a ‘friend of Vladimir’ is not an attribute I am hoping for from a #SecretaryOfState,”
I dunno - being a friend of Vlad the Appalling would seem to be very suitable in a hash of a Secretary.
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I thought he was giving that job to Kanye West.

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No, Kayne's being tapped to head up the Drug Enforcement Agency...
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Could happen...

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Lord Jim wrote:No, Kayne's being tapped to head up the Drug Enforcement Agency...
... or the NIMH, most likely as their poster child. We all know he ain't rapped too tight.
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that zinke fellow, from montana?

very impressive.

I like him at interior, very much I do.

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It's a shame Hunter S. Thompson isn't still around...

He'd have made a great pick to be director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms...

Hunter had extensive experience with the use of all three of those...

Frequently at the same time....
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And the DEA as well.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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I fondly remember the Duke's recommendation back during the Carter presidential campaign, that if you ever need a machine gun, just pop the trunk on a police car.

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Crackpot wrote:And the DEA as well.
Walter White is still available ....


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Best one I saw was Trump to appoint dingo to watch baby.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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I smell a sequel in the works. IAMMMMW... II

Replace Winters with Drumpf and the rest of this zany cast will fill itself in.

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Trump’s 17 cabinet-level picks have more money than a third of American households combined

The 17 people who US president-elect Donald Trump has selected for his cabinet or for posts with cabinet rank have well over $9.5 billion in combined wealth, with several positions still unfilled. This collection of wealth is greater than that of the 43 million least wealthy American households combined—over one third of the 126 million households total in the US.

Affluence of this magnitude in a US presidential cabinet is unprecedented.
But they are going to have the interests of those poor sots in the rust belt who have lost their jobs at heart, yessir.
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