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All we need to cures the ills of society is more taxes.

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child deprivation, world-wide


Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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Not worldwide Dales, in Europe.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Let's see — a list of 14 things that includes an internet connection, outdoor leisure equipment, regular leisure activities — this sounds suspiciously like organized sports or other adult-supervised activities, and the opportunity to celebrate special days like name days (whatever in the hell those are), birthdays, or religious events. And if a child is not able to access more that twelve of these fourteen things (i.e., "lacks two or more of the following items because the family cannot afford to provide them") he or she is considered "deprived"?dales wrote:child deprivation, world-wide
Judas Priest on a pony, would someone gimme a break? What, no expectation that these kids have their own room, the latest-model smartphone, and a car of their own when they reach driving age? Life ain't fair for everyone, and being a kid in an economically-developed country (even in America) is not meant to be an 18-year-long stay in an amusement park or Pleasure Island. Life means making choices, sometimes having to pass up something in order to do something else at a later time (I believe the shrinks and the economists call this "delayed gratitude" or some such), and the sooner a kid learns that lesson instead of thinking that everyone owes them a food, shelter, clothing, and a good time, the better adjusted adult they will grow up to be.
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Yes, I suppose I could agree with you ... but then we'd both be wrong, wouldn't we?
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Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
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If it doesn't compare household income to cost of living in those areas, it means very little.
My son makes good money in Las Vegas and he can afford to live there. The same salary (or even 10%-20% more) will not cut it here on Long Island. Forget about Silicone Valley and the others shown.
From what I know about those geographic areas you have to make a high salary just to afford a roof over ones head.
My son makes good money in Las Vegas and he can afford to live there. The same salary (or even 10%-20% more) will not cut it here on Long Island. Forget about Silicone Valley and the others shown.
From what I know about those geographic areas you have to make a high salary just to afford a roof over ones head.
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Actually, it means quite a bit.
The info is Bay Area specific, the middle and lower economic classes are slowly being squeezed out of the Greater SF Bay Area and are forced to relocate to the San Joaquin Valley.
Wages have all but stagnated while rents have skyrocketed.
There is a Bay Area-Wide housing shortage exacerbating the problem.
DON'T MOVE HERE, WE HAVE ENOUGH TRANSPLANTS AND YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT ANYWAY!
The info is Bay Area specific, the middle and lower economic classes are slowly being squeezed out of the Greater SF Bay Area and are forced to relocate to the San Joaquin Valley.
Wages have all but stagnated while rents have skyrocketed.
There is a Bay Area-Wide housing shortage exacerbating the problem.
DON'T MOVE HERE, WE HAVE ENOUGH TRANSPLANTS AND YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT ANYWAY!
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
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You forgot to add:
JUST SEND YOUR MONEY.

JUST SEND YOUR MONEY.
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Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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We need to stop focusing on executing prisoners and start executing illegal Mexicans instead. Decreasing the surplus population will make America great again!
Trump is our only hope.
yrs,
weswato
Trump is our only hope.
yrs,
weswato
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Yeah, we're way behind schedule on that...dales wrote:
Hopefully the passage of Prop 66 will start to get the implementation of justice back on track
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/11/22/c ... xecutions/California passes death penalty reform to speed executions
LOS ANGELES (AP) — California voters have decided to repair the state’s dysfunctional death penalty by passing a measure intended to speed up appeals, uniting with voters in more conservative states that also supported capital punishment.
Proposition 66 continued to hold a 51 percent margin of support Tuesday after two weeks of counting millions of ballots in a contentious race that also saw voters reject a dueling measure to end executions.
“California voters not only want to keep the death penalty intact but they want it to work as intended,” Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert said in a statement. “The reforms outlined in Prop. 66 are smart fixes that will eradicate waste, delays and inefficiencies while protecting due process for all those who are given the ultimate sentence of death.”
California’s Proposition 66 would change how appeals are handled, appointing more lawyers to take cases, putting certain types of appeals before trial court judges and setting a five-year deadline for appeals to be heard. Currently, it can take longer than that for an attorney to be assigned to a case and upward of 25 years to exhaust all appeals.![]()



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Joe Guy wrote: Trump is our only hope.
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Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
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Fellow Cheeseheads, it's bad enough that New Englanders have been hoodwinked into believing that a certain sports team from Massachusetts has a strong and proud football heritage just because they managed to win a couple of Super Bowls; hell, they aren't worthy to even carry Ray Nitschke's jockstrap. We graciously let them continue to revel in this fallacy; after all, WE know which town is "Titletown" (and it ain't Foxborough!). But are we willing to let a bunch of Down-Easterners take this hard-earned title as away from us as well?"New England is home to the nation’s heaviest drinkers — New Hampshire, where about 64 percent of residents age of 12 or older drink monthly, is tops in the country. Vermont, Maine and Connecticut also come in at drinking rates above 60 percent. Hard-drinking cheeseheads in Wisconsin see to it that their home is the only Midwestern state in the top tier of American drinkers."
I say no! This is more than a matter of pride; this is righting a grievous wrong. So drink hearty, my fellow Badger Staters; our honor is at stake.
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Yes, I suppose I could agree with you ... but then we'd both be wrong, wouldn't we?
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That's an interesting chart...dales wrote:
What leaps out to me in looking at that, is this conclusion:
"When it comes to alcohol consumption, religious beliefs trump economic conditions"...
One might expect that the highest alcohol consumption levels would occur in those states that were the most economically depressed; but that is clearly not the case...
In the west, it's not all that surprising that Utah (which has a large percentage of tea-totaling Mormons) and Idaho, (which also has a lot of Mormons as well as Fundamentalist Christians) would be low alcohol consuming states...and the economy in those states is not particularly bad...
But if you look at that white swath of low alcohol consuming states in the south and east, from Arkansas and Mississippi and Alabama up to West Virginia, these are states that for the most part have high unemployment rates and fairly depressed economies...
But apparently they're not turning to alcohol deal with their problems...
They are also states with a high percentage of anti-alcohol Christian Fundamentalists, and that seems to have a stronger influence then economic conditions...



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No it shows how much work drives you to drink.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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If they measured visitors, instead of residents, what color could they possible use for Nevada?
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They must have done this study after I stopped drinking, otherwise NY would have been on top."New England is home to the nation’s heaviest drinkers — New Hampshire, where about 64 percent of residents age of 12 or older drink monthly, is tops in the country. Vermont, Maine and Connecticut also come in at drinking rates above 60 percent. Hard-drinking cheeseheads in Wisconsin see to it that their home is the only Midwestern state in the top tier of American drinkers."
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Dude...there are people that might even have made you seem like a lightweight.
Treat Gaza like Carthage.