Bureaucrats have been asked to raise money by selling sunscreen or mangoes instead of sweet treats under a new policy that will see fundraising chocolates phased out of ACT government workplaces.
The ACT Public Sector Healthy Food and Drink Choices Policy uses a traffic light system to dictate the food and drinks allowed at government functions, in vending machines and fundraising activities.
Foods and drinks categorised as red - including cake, confectionary and soft drinks - are no longer permitted at fundraisers or as rewards and gifts.
Directorates and agencies have been given a year to become compliant.
A memo sent to staff on Tuesday explained the health risks of chocolate and confectionery fundraisers.
"Combining these high-energy foods with sedentary lifestyles can lead to unhealthy lifestyle behaviours, which increases the risk of developing long lasting health issues, including cardiovascular disease, type 2 diabetes and some forms of cancer," the memo said.
"The ACT government is leading by example to the community in promoting healthy food and drink choices in the workplace.
"A number of schools are now fundraising mangoes which have proven to be very popular.
"If you are organising a fundraiser, try suggesting a novel approach like sporting equipment, fruit trays, movie tickets or store vouchers.
"These creative ideas will help to promote the fundraiser, while also encouraging healthy habits within the club, school, workplaces and the broader community."
ACT Health staff have operated under a similar policy since March last year.
The ban on fundraising chocolates forms part of the government's Healthy Weight Initiative.
Nanny says
Nanny says
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Bicycle Bill
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Re: Nanny says
If they had positioned this policy as being implemented out of concern for people with food allergies it would probably have received universal acceptance.
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Yes, I suppose I could agree with you ... but then we'd both be wrong, wouldn't we?
Re: Nanny says
Just sell scotch, wine and beer instead.
yrs,
rubato
yrs,
rubato
Re: Nanny says
When I was growing up, just about every weekend some local student group or organization would do a little fundraising selling home baked cookies, brownies, or cupcakes laid out on a card table near our local supermarkets...
Most of the kids would buy one (or their parents would buy them for them) and yet somehow, against all odds, we all managed to survive into adulthood...
I guess we really dodged a bullet...
Most of the kids would buy one (or their parents would buy them for them) and yet somehow, against all odds, we all managed to survive into adulthood...
I guess we really dodged a bullet...
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And we drank water out of the garden hose.
And rode bicycles without helmets.
And skatboarded without pads.
And went barefoot.
And lived to tell about it.
And rode bicycles without helmets.
And skatboarded without pads.
And went barefoot.
And lived to tell about it.
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That's nature's way of weeding out the weaklings. If you were meant to wear a helmet, knee pad and shoes you would have been born with them!! And hoses add flavor to your water.
Kids ain't nothing but a bunch of sissies nowadays....
Kids ain't nothing but a bunch of sissies nowadays....
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No seatbelts in cars with hard metal dashboards.oldr_n_wsr wrote:And we drank water out of the garden hose.
And rode bicycles without helmets.
And skatboarded without pads.
And went barefoot.
And lived to tell about it.
Most adults smoked and drank.
Firearms could be purchased at the hardware store or ordered thru the mail.
Leaded gasoline.
Real Coca-Cola (not the crap we have now).
And so on and so forth.
The 1950's were great!
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Nanny says
Spoken like a white man - the only demographic group for whom the 1950s were 'great'.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
Re: Nanny says
I hope that was a joke?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
Re: Nanny says
Yeah, me too.
eta: she does have her issues. Sad.
eta: she does have her issues. Sad.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Nanny says
Time marches on, and forward:
Fatalities per million vehicle miles:
1955 ...... 6.06
2014 ..... 1.12
Getting lead out of gasoline was a huge improvement in public health world wide.
&c.
yrs,
rubato
Fatalities per million vehicle miles:
1955 ...... 6.06
2014 ..... 1.12
Getting lead out of gasoline was a huge improvement in public health world wide.
&c.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Nanny says
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Nanny says
rubato wrote:Time marches on, and forward:
Fatalities per million vehicle miles:
1955 ...... 6.06
2014 ..... 1.12
yrs,
rubato
A Slate piece Friday notes that as computers start taking the wheel of our vehicles, cars will become safer, and in turn, fewer people will die in car crashes. While on the surface that seems like a good thing, organs from a lot of those victims are what doctors use to save Americans dying from kidney and liver disease, and much more.
Currently, 6,500 Americans die each year waiting on an organ transplant, and that number is about to get much higher. Right now, 20 percent of the organs used in those transplants come from victims of vehicular accidents. When those accidents go down, so will the amount of donated organs.
One solution to the issue could be technology. Research is currently underway that would allow doctors to use 3D printers to essentially “print” a new organ for patients. Researchers at Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, for instance, have successfully printed human muscles and tissue. Some printed organs, from a variety of different researchers working in the space, have already been used in some clinical trials; however, there are quite a few outstanding questions about both the federal regulation of printed living matter and ethical implications of creating human parts. Organs are also exceptionally complex, and much more research will be needed before they’ll be ready to become commonplace.
Hopefully, 3D printed organs are ready for prime time when driverless Ubers start replacing real ones permanently behind the wheel.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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I have issues, but then so don't we all.dales wrote:Yeah, me too.
eta: she does have her issues. Sad.
Nonetheless, I stand by the essence of my statement. Please, explain how the 1950s were so 'great' for women, people of color, or even children?
Geez, if you're so fond of the 50s, what quarrel can you possibly have with P-E Trump?
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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Re: Nanny says
I'm in wonder how a post about government overregulation of fundraising sales became a platform for decrying gender/ethnic inequality of the 1950s.
I didn't live in the 1950s, hell I don't really remember the 1970s, other than bits of birthday parties and Kindergarten, which I started in 1979. But I could say basically the same thing as Dales:
and just changed it to "The 1980s were great!". Other than the metal dashboard seatbeltless cars- those went away by the 1970 model year, though seat belt LAWS didn't get enacted until the 1980s for the most part. But then I might hear complaints about how bad the 80s were for homosexuals. That wasn't the point- it had nothing to do with race. creed, religion, gender, orientation. It had to do with government overprotection. It had to do with how people managed to survive without the government nit-picking every second of our lives, regulating down to the stitch count of our underroos.
In reality, it's not even a good example- plenty of people died from those things we "had" and were free to do in years past. My Grandmother's half-brother was killed when his father got in a car wreck in 1941 with the 8-year old riding in his lap. There wasn't anything illegal about what happened, but the boy died anyway. Today the man would have probably seen a fair amount of jail time- not only for the gross negligence of having an unrestrained child in the car, but for being drunk (I don't know that he was drunk, but he was A drunk so it's not a stretch). My Dad spent days in the hospital when he was 4 when he fell out of a moving car with "suicide" doors and hit the curb. Made the news in 1946. One of my cousins had a good long stretch in the hospital when he lost control of his bike and hit a parked car headfirst without a helmet. There are plenty of instances where advances in technology and/safety gear have saved people from death and injury.
But then there's overreach. If I need to change one electrical outlet- say, if the outlet face broke when someone yanked a cord out sideways (it happens!), I have to pull a $25 permit and have an electrical inspector come and examine it (could be weeks for the appointment, which means taking off a day of work as well) before I can power the circuit back on. Or it has to be done by a licensed electrician, but I still have to pull an electrical work permit. For ONE outlet. One $1.99 at Lowes outlet. Sure, I could replace every single outlet on that circuit under that permit, but still. $25 permit and an inspection when I'm replacing like for like. Oh, and maybe they'll require bringing the whole circuit up to today's code, meaning that I can't just replace the outlet, I'll need to replace it with a tamper-resistant outlet, and replace the breaker with an AFCI breaker. Hell, I got a lecture from the inspector (who was inspecting the electrical installation for my heat pump) because I had the cover plates off the outlets and switches... because I was PAINTING (I waited to paint until the heat pump had been installed, and of course that's when the inspector showed up). If I break a window- I have to pull a permit to replace it. I have to have a permit to have an alarm system, whether it's monitored or not. In Seattle, you could be fined for having ANY recyclables or food scraps in the garbage, and they actually had people going around inspecting residential garbage cans for compliance (that got rescinded on public outcry). Disposable Grocery bags are outlawed in several communities- except paper, which the stores are required by law to charge you for (one store chain here simply pays the fine and gives you paper bags- not a bad
to the city grocery bag regulators).
I didn't live in the 1950s, hell I don't really remember the 1970s, other than bits of birthday parties and Kindergarten, which I started in 1979. But I could say basically the same thing as Dales:
dales wrote:oldr_n_wsr wrote:And we drank water out of the garden hose.
And rode bicycles without helmets.
And skatboarded without pads.
And went barefoot.
And lived to tell about it.
No seatbelts in cars with hard metal dashboards.
Most adults smoked and drank.
Firearms could be purchased at the hardware store or ordered thru the mail.
Leaded gasoline.
Real Coca-Cola (not the crap we have now).
And so on and so forth.
The 1950's were great!
and just changed it to "The 1980s were great!". Other than the metal dashboard seatbeltless cars- those went away by the 1970 model year, though seat belt LAWS didn't get enacted until the 1980s for the most part. But then I might hear complaints about how bad the 80s were for homosexuals. That wasn't the point- it had nothing to do with race. creed, religion, gender, orientation. It had to do with government overprotection. It had to do with how people managed to survive without the government nit-picking every second of our lives, regulating down to the stitch count of our underroos.
In reality, it's not even a good example- plenty of people died from those things we "had" and were free to do in years past. My Grandmother's half-brother was killed when his father got in a car wreck in 1941 with the 8-year old riding in his lap. There wasn't anything illegal about what happened, but the boy died anyway. Today the man would have probably seen a fair amount of jail time- not only for the gross negligence of having an unrestrained child in the car, but for being drunk (I don't know that he was drunk, but he was A drunk so it's not a stretch). My Dad spent days in the hospital when he was 4 when he fell out of a moving car with "suicide" doors and hit the curb. Made the news in 1946. One of my cousins had a good long stretch in the hospital when he lost control of his bike and hit a parked car headfirst without a helmet. There are plenty of instances where advances in technology and/safety gear have saved people from death and injury.
But then there's overreach. If I need to change one electrical outlet- say, if the outlet face broke when someone yanked a cord out sideways (it happens!), I have to pull a $25 permit and have an electrical inspector come and examine it (could be weeks for the appointment, which means taking off a day of work as well) before I can power the circuit back on. Or it has to be done by a licensed electrician, but I still have to pull an electrical work permit. For ONE outlet. One $1.99 at Lowes outlet. Sure, I could replace every single outlet on that circuit under that permit, but still. $25 permit and an inspection when I'm replacing like for like. Oh, and maybe they'll require bringing the whole circuit up to today's code, meaning that I can't just replace the outlet, I'll need to replace it with a tamper-resistant outlet, and replace the breaker with an AFCI breaker. Hell, I got a lecture from the inspector (who was inspecting the electrical installation for my heat pump) because I had the cover plates off the outlets and switches... because I was PAINTING (I waited to paint until the heat pump had been installed, and of course that's when the inspector showed up). If I break a window- I have to pull a permit to replace it. I have to have a permit to have an alarm system, whether it's monitored or not. In Seattle, you could be fined for having ANY recyclables or food scraps in the garbage, and they actually had people going around inspecting residential garbage cans for compliance (that got rescinded on public outcry). Disposable Grocery bags are outlawed in several communities- except paper, which the stores are required by law to charge you for (one store chain here simply pays the fine and gives you paper bags- not a bad
to the city grocery bag regulators).Death is Nature's way of telling you to slow down.
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Fine, the government (which is us, via our elected officials) sometimes overreaches and makes life frustrating.
As it happens, most of the things on those lists were still around when I was a kid - but just because I survived them doesn't mean I think they're great and we should go back to the days of leaded gasoline, people tossing their kids in the back of a pickup, etc. Most of the improvements via regulations have saved and improved lives.
Pardon me that my opinion was out of the scope of acceptable commentary in this thread, I missed the bit where those rules were set forth?
I'm not apologizing for finding the declaration that the 1950s were great (the inference being as opposed to today) because I think that's just bollocks. It's infuriating after 18 months of listening to Trump (a product of the 50s) and his ilk claim that we need to MAGA - because somehow now it's not so great?! Sorry, but except for straight white men, whose status has apparently 'fallen' because the status of all others has risen so markedly, the 1950s weren't actually so very great. Far from it, in fact.
In future please post the rules in the OP, so I'll be fully informed that I'm not allowed to share an opinion that contradicts the intention of the thread.
As it happens, most of the things on those lists were still around when I was a kid - but just because I survived them doesn't mean I think they're great and we should go back to the days of leaded gasoline, people tossing their kids in the back of a pickup, etc. Most of the improvements via regulations have saved and improved lives.
Pardon me that my opinion was out of the scope of acceptable commentary in this thread, I missed the bit where those rules were set forth?
I'm not apologizing for finding the declaration that the 1950s were great (the inference being as opposed to today) because I think that's just bollocks. It's infuriating after 18 months of listening to Trump (a product of the 50s) and his ilk claim that we need to MAGA - because somehow now it's not so great?! Sorry, but except for straight white men, whose status has apparently 'fallen' because the status of all others has risen so markedly, the 1950s weren't actually so very great. Far from it, in fact.
In future please post the rules in the OP, so I'll be fully informed that I'm not allowed to share an opinion that contradicts the intention of the thread.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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Contradictory opinions are the whole point of the forum, I think.
It's just that I took the comment
as an attack on white males. As if we have any choice in being born to that demographic. There was nothing in any of the prior statements that had anything to do with gender or racial inequality. You brought that up, turning what had been a rather light thread cloudy. People wax nostalgic for the "good old days" all the time because hindsight is myopic. People WANT to forget the bad and remember the good. They felt like they had more fun, free of government overburden.
I'm not going to apologize for the actions of my race and gender that happened 20 years before I was born. I won't apologize for the actions of anyone that isn't me. Did bad things happen? You bet. What I will do is not repeat the mistakes or wrong willful actions of my predecessors, regardless of my immoral internal voice that, for some reason I cannot fathom, is horrifically misogynistic. I strive to not do what it tells me to do. If I fail, I will apologize for my OWN wrong actions, but no one elses.
It's just that I took the comment
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Spoken like a white man - the only demographic group for whom the 1950s were 'great'.I'm not going to apologize for the actions of my race and gender that happened 20 years before I was born. I won't apologize for the actions of anyone that isn't me. Did bad things happen? You bet. What I will do is not repeat the mistakes or wrong willful actions of my predecessors, regardless of my immoral internal voice that, for some reason I cannot fathom, is horrifically misogynistic. I strive to not do what it tells me to do. If I fail, I will apologize for my OWN wrong actions, but no one elses.
Death is Nature's way of telling you to slow down.
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Nobody's asking you to apologize for anybody else's actions.
There is value, however, in having the ability/compassion/empathy to see life from the perspective of other people and in having the humility to be able to say, 'hey, the 50s were great for me - but I guess maybe not so much for the vast majority of women, for people of color, for LGBTQ people, etc.'
So yeah, that's my opinion. Please, feel free to continue badgering me about it. And maybe dales would like to weigh in again about how 'sad' my 'issues' are - because having dared to express an opinion contrary to his, personal attack/denigration is the logical tool he engages in.
By the way, fuck you, dales. Are you planning to point out that I have 'issues' now every time you don't like my opinion in a post? Is that some kind of discrimination against me for having a serious illness over which I have no control - now every time I say something you don't like, I've got 'issues'? That's fucking weak and pathetic. Next time try arguing the merits of my opinion v. yours, rather than ridiculing me for having 'issues'.
There is value, however, in having the ability/compassion/empathy to see life from the perspective of other people and in having the humility to be able to say, 'hey, the 50s were great for me - but I guess maybe not so much for the vast majority of women, for people of color, for LGBTQ people, etc.'
So yeah, that's my opinion. Please, feel free to continue badgering me about it. And maybe dales would like to weigh in again about how 'sad' my 'issues' are - because having dared to express an opinion contrary to his, personal attack/denigration is the logical tool he engages in.
By the way, fuck you, dales. Are you planning to point out that I have 'issues' now every time you don't like my opinion in a post? Is that some kind of discrimination against me for having a serious illness over which I have no control - now every time I say something you don't like, I've got 'issues'? That's fucking weak and pathetic.
Next time try arguing the merits of my opinion v. yours, rather than ridiculing me for having 'issues'.For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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I'm glad I don't live where I have to have a permit to replace a socket (or do any minor electrical or plumbing) in my own house. I'd have been in jail dozens of times by now. I think Datsunaholic has a valid point, whether or not it was originally part of this thread.
I wonder Dats, are you in a "union" state where the laws protect all union members to a great extent?
I wonder Dats, are you in a "union" state where the laws protect all union members to a great extent?
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