Nanny says

[Joe Guy]

You guys ever wonder why it's the same small group of you that perpetuate this place and so many other voices have all but disappeared?

They all had issues...

[Jarlaxle]

And we drank water out of the garden hose.
And rode bicycles without helmets.
And skatboarded without pads.
And went barefoot.
And lived to tell about it.

No seatbelts in cars with hard metal dashboards.
Most adults smoked and drank.
Firearms could be purchased at the hardware store or ordered thru the mail.
Leaded gasoline.
Real Coca-Cola (not the crap we have now).
And so on and so forth.

The 1950's were great!

You could order a 20mm anti tank cannon...mail order.

[Jarlaxle]

I'm glad I don't live where I have to have a permit to replace a socket (or do any minor electrical or plumbing) in my own house. I'd have been in jail dozens of times by now. I think Datsunaholic has a valid point, whether or not it was originally part of this thread.

I wonder Dats, are you in a "union" state where the laws protect all union members to a great extent?

Well, you don't go to jail for permit violations, you just get fined. If you don't pay the fine, you get a lien placed on your property. But even then, if you don't get the permit you can't sell the property for 2 years after the violation (you can have that lifted by getting a permit and having the work inspected). It's basically designed to punish house flippers that don't pull permits.

Yes, this is a very Union-Friendly state. There are a lot of jobs you cannot get unless you join the union (compulsory union membership). Then there are jobs which the union is "voluntary". In quotes, because you still have the union dues deducted from your pay, even if you're not a member, as a fee. Heck, there are some jobs that the union won't allow you to join the union but you are required to pay the union protection fee because it falls under their umbrella.. Freaking racket at that point. Unions have done much good, but making them mandatory is just legal racketeering.

I always just got the stuff, did the work, and said nothing.

[Jarlaxle]

Then there are jobs which the union is "voluntary". In quotes, because you still have the union dues deducted from your pay, even if you're not a member, as a fee.

That's called "Fair Share".  Since the union must, by law, represent everyone at the workplace only a scum-sucking bottom-feeding slimy spineless freeloader would be that kind of employee that does not contribute anything to the union but still thinks it is OK to reap the goodies that the union negotiates with management in terms of work conditions, wages, benefits, and other things.

-"BB"-

No, it is called a "protection racket".

[datsunaholic]

I always just got the stuff, did the work, and said nothing.

Well, yes. But I had one minor problem- I couldn't install the heat pump myself. I don't have the specialized tools and gauges for configuring refrigerant. So I had to contract that out, and THEY pulled a permit because they had to. The inspector had to inspect the 2 circuits listed on the permit (though I'd tried to declare them as existing, as I was stuck in a catch-22- couldn't put the heat pump in until the drywall was done, and the electrical circuit had to be "exposed" to inspect it) Since the house was originally baseboard heat, that also meant it had to be inspected as removed, though there was no record of how many baseboard circuits originally existed (I removed 3 units, none of which were connected to the breaker box when I bought the house- in fact the wired had been chopped off inside the walls years before). I'd used the old baseboard breakers and the old carport breakers for the 2 new circuits, though I did run new wire, as the old stuff was spliced and rodent-eaten. And I'd run overkill- 10gauge for both of them. 10 gauge to a single GFCI outdoor outlet was a bit overkill, but the intention was that circuit was going to go to the carport once it was rebuilt. Which is a whole other permit hassle.

[Econoline]

Aha. Now it makes sense. It sounds like if the ONLY thing you wanted to do was change that one electrical outlet with the face that broke when someone yanked a cord out sideways, then you could easily get away with doing it yourself with the Powers That Be being none the wiser.

[Jarlaxle]

I always just got the stuff, did the work, and said nothing.

Well, yes. But I had one minor problem- I couldn't install the heat pump myself. I don't have the specialized tools and gauges for configuring refrigerant. So I had to contract that out, and THEY pulled a permit because they had to. The inspector had to inspect the 2 circuits listed on the permit (though I'd tried to declare them as existing, as I was stuck in a catch-22- couldn't put the heat pump in until the drywall was done, and the electrical circuit had to be "exposed" to inspect it) Since the house was originally baseboard heat, that also meant it had to be inspected as removed, though there was no record of how many baseboard circuits originally existed (I removed 3 units, none of which were connected to the breaker box when I bought the house- in fact the wired had been chopped off inside the walls years before). I'd used the old baseboard breakers and the old carport breakers for the 2 new circuits, though I did run new wire, as the old stuff was spliced and rodent-eaten. And I'd run overkill- 10gauge for both of them. 10 gauge to a single GFCI outdoor outlet was a bit overkill, but the intention was that circuit was going to go to the carport once it was rebuilt. Which is a whole other permit hassle.

Ah...never done a heat pump. (They do not like New England winters.) Never had central A/C...though if I did, I know two people who could help me with the refrigerant stuff.

[oldr_n_wsr]

Too much gov interference. From gas cans to light bulbs to toilet flush size. I wonder when they will come and confiscate my free pour gas cans or my stash of incandescent bulbs or my toilet that actually flushes everything down in only one pull of the handle.

Wonder what new regs were enacted this Jan 1 that will either make things cost more or solve some problem that never was a problem in the first place.

[Burning Petard]

Well, the first thing the House Judiciary Committee did yesterday was to wipe out independent ethics investigations. It will come to a full vote today.

That indicates where the GOP priorities are. The general opinion about House members already that their ethics are lower than a sleazy used car salesman [specific exceptions for mid-westerners who have an affection for Morris Garage products] so I guess they have nothing to lose.

snailgate

[oldr_n_wsr]

Sounds similar to the NY state government. That's where our governor (a Dem) priorities are.

[rubato]

Too much gov interference. From gas cans to light bulbs to toilet flush size. I wonder when they will come and confiscate my free pour gas cans or my stash of incandescent bulbs or my toilet that actually flushes everything down in only one pull of the handle.

Wonder what new regs were enacted this Jan 1 that will either make things cost more or solve some problem that never was a problem in the first place.

Regulating the amount of water used to flush a toilet saves all of us a lot of water which is needed in our ever-increasing droughts. Allowing people to use water wastefully is stupid.



yrs,
rubato

[Crackpot]

Regulating them to the point they can no longer flush properly was a water wasting mistake.

[oldr_n_wsr]

Having to flush twice (or sometimes three times) saves nothing and wastes more water than the old style.
Try again.

Anything about the "no pour" gas cans? Ever try and fill a weed wacker or leaf blower with them? More gas on the ground than in the tank. That's really great for the environment. And how about the gurgling when the neck has to suck in air? There is no vent cap like there used to be,it's in the nozzle now. That "air suck" causes splashing out of the nozzel/tank. Waste of gas and pours more fumes into the atmosphere.

Ever see an LED traffic light with every LED on? Very rare here on Long Island. I've been keeping an eye on the latest and greatest technology advancement of LED traffic lights. Only about 9% of the LED equipped traffic lights have all LEDs lit. Most have more than 50% of the LEDs out. And this only a few years into the switch over. Been taking pictures and emailing the pictures and the location of the lights to the highway department for over a year now. None have been fixed. Guess they figure the fewer LEDS lighting up the less electricity is used.

[rubato]

Regulating them to the point they can no longer flush properly was a water wasting mistake.

We have had water-saving toilets here for decades without a problem. Many new models have the dual-flush option. These are also popular across France.

Maybe its your ass that is the problem? Did you head and your ass get switched at some point? Think carefully now.



yrs,
rubato

[Crackpot]

The problems have been fixed (at least if you get a quality toilet). But that wasn't the case agent they were mandated.

Personally I'm suprised you can pass anything with your head so tightly wedged up there.

[Gob]

[MGMcAnick]

The problems have been fixed (at least if you get a quality toilet). But that wasn't the case "when" they were mandated.

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. I installed a dual flush Mansfield a couple of months ago. (See Menards if you have them.) Light touch on the handle for light work, hold the handle down for anything heavier. Even in heavy mode it uses just over a gallon. The one it replaced was a water guzzler, and had not flushed very well for years. I acidized it once 20 years ago to clean lime out of the holes in the rim, but this time it was beyond help.

I need one more, but Mrs Mc bought me a deep dish pizza pan for Christmas instead.

[Long Run]

This gets to the one-size-fits-all regulation overkill. Many/most places in the country have plenty of water to use the toilets that have been in place forever and work very well. The dual-flush is a reasonable solution for low-water locations to help save a bit of water (it really is a bit relative to the big savings for much bigger water users).

[Jarlaxle]

Having to flush twice (or sometimes three times) saves nothing and wastes more water than the old style.
Try again.

Anything about the "no pour" gas cans? Ever try and fill a weed wacker or leaf blower with them? More gas on the ground than in the tank. That's really great for the environment. And how about the gurgling when the neck has to suck in air? There is no vent cap like there used to be,it's in the nozzle now. That "air suck" causes splashing out of the nozzel/tank. Waste of gas and pours more fumes into the atmosphere.

Ever see an LED traffic light with every LED on? Very rare here on Long Island. I've been keeping an eye on the latest and greatest technology advancement of LED traffic lights. Only about 9% of the LED equipped traffic lights have all LEDs lit. Most have more than 50% of the LEDs out. And this only a few years into the switch over. Been taking pictures and emailing the pictures and the location of the lights to the highway department for over a year now. None have been fixed. Guess they figure the fewer LEDS lighting up the less electricity is used.

I see LED traffic signals by the dozen every day...the vast majority have all the LEDs on. Even if not, it is usually only a few that are out. I'm also seeing LED street lights lately.

[oldr_n_wsr]

Maybe its your ass that is the problem? Did you head and your ass get switched at some point? Think carefully now.

I pray for you.