trump is serious!!!!!

[Sue U]

Did Trump ever come back for questions after his lawyer started talking? (That's where I left.)

[RayThom]

It's official. Today it was confirmed, ANYONE born in the USA can, in fact, become POTUS.


God bless whatever is left of America.

[Scooter]

[Sue U]

Showers in the forecast, then?

[Bicycle Bill]

I don't get the significance of the sledgehammer, though...

-"BB"-

[Scooter]

[RayThom]

Ah... I see what you did there. Better said than read, however.

[Lord Jim]

Another way in which Trump's presidency is "historic":

Trump’s Approval Rating Plunges To Historic New Low Days Before Inauguration

America is not giving Donald Trump a warm welcome to the White House as a new poll found that Trump’s job approval rating has dropped seven points to 37% over the past month.

According to Quinnipiac University, Trump has an unfavorable rating of 51% and unfavorable rating of 37%. The president-elect’s favorability ratings are down seven points over the last 30 days.

Respondents also had highly unfavorable views of Trump’s personal traits:

53 – 39 percent that he is not honest, compared to 52 – 42 percent November 22;
49 – 44 percent that he has good leadership skills, compared to 56 – 38 percent;
52 – 44 percent that he does not care about average Americans, compared to 51 – 45 percent who said he did care;
62 – 33 percent that he is not level-headed, compared to 57 – 38 percent;
71 – 25 percent that he is a strong person, compared to 74 – 23 percent;
68 – 27 percent that he is intelligent, compared to 74 – 21 percent.

Trump is not even in office yet, and he has already broken his own record for being the least popular president-elect in history. Respondents by a margin of 45%-34% believed that Trump would be a worse president than Obama.

Donald Trump has never been a popular political figure, but the notion of beginning his presidency by taking healthcare away from nearly 30 million Americans has come back to haunt him. Trump doesn’t have a positive agenda for the country, and the endlessly negative president-elect is seeing his own negativity thrown back at him by the American people.

Trump never inspires confidence. The takeaways from the Quinnipiac University poll are that most Americans don’t like Trump. They have no faith that he cares about them, and they think he is going to be a pretty lousy president.

Never in modern history has a president-elect gotten off to such a terrible start with the public.

Donald Trump is reaping the seeds of division and hate that he sowed during his presidential campaign. It has come full circle, as America is stuck with a president-elect that they really don’t like.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/10/ ... ation.html

[Big RR]

this will all change when he gets Mexico to pay for the wall.

[wesw]

[Scooter]

[Lord Jim]

To put Trump's 37% in perspective:

This time in 2008, Barack Obama’s transition had a 75 percent approval rating with only 17 percent disapproving. By January 2001 — the first Gallup survey since George W. Bush was officially declared the winner in mid-December despite losing the popular vote to Al Gore — Bush’s transition had an approval rating of 65 percent and disapproval rating of 26 percent. And around this time in 1992, Bill Clinton had a similar approval rating — 67 percent — but with a lower disapproval rate — 15 percent.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/p ... ing-232623

I think the comparison with GWB is the most striking...

Despite all of the divisiveness and bitterness engendered by the aftermath of that election, and the way in which it was resolved, once it was resolved, Bush's initial approval rating stood 28 points higher than Trump's...

What these approval numbers of recent President-elects at the end of their transition periods show is that the average American, (as opposed to the fiercest hardcore partisans) really want to like their President.

Particularly at the outset, (I recall seeing a poll right before Obama was inaugurated that showed that even a majority of Republicans approved of his handling of his transition) they want to keep an open mind and be hopeful about their new President.

But with a very few exceptions, (his acceptance speech election night was gracious, and he handled himself acceptably in his initial meeting with Obama) Trump's whole comportment and behavior during his transition to the Presidency has been so toxic, divisive, petty, childish, and arrogant that he has booted any chance of being able to tap into the reservoir of broad initial popular support that Americans typically want to extend to a new President, no matter how hard fought the election campaign may have been.

[Big RR]

roll your eyes all you want, he repeated it at the press conference.

[Scooter]

[wesw]

I wasn t rolling my eyes at you, RR. I didn t realize that you had posted before me.

I was rolling my eyes at polls in general. they have become little more than propaganda tools in the opinion of many...

....I took a poll....

[Scooter]

[BoSoxGal]

[Scooter]

Bankrupt Toronto Trump Tower On Sale For Less Than Its Mortgage

Let’s hope this isn’t some sort of metaphor for the upcoming Donald Trump era in politics.

The Trump-branded high-rise tower in Toronto is being sold off with an asking price that’s slightly lower than the money owed on the property.

Commercial real estate agency CBRE has listed the vast majority of the 56-storey hotel and condo complex for sale at an asking price of $298 million, just below the $301 million that the tower’s developer, Talon International, and others owe on it.

This is known as a “stalking horse offer,” in which a debtor who has defaulted on their loan tests the market to see if there’s any interest in their assets.

JFC Capital, which owns the debt on the building, has said it would be willing to trade the building in exchange for the debt — in essence, a fire sale. In court documents, it says Talon defaulted on its loan in the summer of 2015.

The sale includes 211 hotel units, 74 residential units and most of the commercial and common space in the building, according to CBRE. The rest is owned by individual investor-owners, many of whom are involved in legal action against the building's developers.

In a lawsuit filed last year, a group of these investors accused Donald Trump, Talon and others involved of running “an investment scheme and conspiracy.” They say they were misled into buying the units, being told, among other things, that they would be buying directly from Donald Trump.

In fact, Trump only licenced his brand to be used on the hotel, and a Trump-owned company was contracted to run the building.

All the same, a court ruling last year declared that Donald Trump himself can be sued over the development.

The Trump International Hotel & Tower Toronto has proven a financial headache for many of its investors. Though they were told to expect 55 per cent occupancy rates in the hotel rooms they bought, occupancy only ever hit 15 to 45 per cent. Room rates declined by some 30 per cent after opening. Some investors said they were losing up to $175 a day on their hotel rooms.

[Lord Jim]

Of course in my view the problem isn't that Obama left all that big a pair of shoes to fill...

They only look big in comparison to Drumpf's tiny little feet...

[BoSoxGal]

And hands, and brain, and . . .