ANZAC Day

[Gob]

It's ANZAC day here, and for the first time in bloody weeks, it's raining.

I'm working today, but caught the dawn service.


The song which sums it all up...



A favourite of our Jim I believe.

[rubato]

Aussies and Kiwis must have a special love for Churchill for throwing away so many of their lives so uselessly.

He repeated his idiocy in pushing for the landing at Anzio and pretending that the empire was going to survive elsewhere.


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[Gob]

Fuck off and die you worthless piece of shit.

[rubato]

Fuck off and die you worthless piece of shit.

tch tch tch, the facts are what they are. Churchill fucked the colonials and then did it again in WWII because he recalled how the home front was devastated by the stupid slaughter in Europe in WWI.


The fuckup at Gallipoli comes back to one man. And the wogs cleaned your clocks.


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[Gob]

Fuck off and die you worthless piece of shit.

tch tch tch, the facts are what they are. Churchill fucked the colonials and then did it again in WWII because he recalled how the home front was devastated by the stupid slaughter in Europe in WWI.


The fuckup at Gallipoli comes back to one man. And the wogs cleaned your clocks.


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Really Double cock? You have such little respect for brave men and women whose boots you are not fit to lick.

Shows you up for the whiney, rat-tailed, scrawny, worthless, piece of shit you are.

[Guinevere]

Given all the crap you fling at the US, perhaps you might chill a bit.

Churchill did screw up at Gallipoli, he even admitted it himself. And that fact doesn't lessen the value of the sacrifices made by the brave men and women who served and died there.

[Gob]

I'd like to see you quote where I threw crap at the US war dead on remembrance day.

[BoSoxGal]

It seems to me that he's ridiculing a political leader, not war dead.

Churchill died aged 90 of stroke, having lived a long full rich life. Thousands of young men never really lived thanks to his mistakes. I think we all grieve for them.

[Gob]

Aussies and Kiwis must have a special love for Churchill for throwing away so many of their lives so uselessly.

Shitboy is mocking the war dead.

[Guinevere]

I truly read it as mocking Churchill, not the dead.

[Gob]

I disagree, I read it as them throwing away their lives uselessly for their love of Churchil.

But let's not fall out over Double Cock's infantile spite about it.

[Gob]

There's no way around it. Time and again, I go back to the achievements of the 2nd AIF – in which, I am proud both my parents served – most particularly at Tobruk and Kokoda, which I have written books on.

At Tobruk in 1941, they came face-to-face with a German Army that had shattered every shred of opposition they had come across, from 1939 onwards. Our mob stopped them, cold. Let the record show: in the wretched shimmering desert heat, the Australians were the first to stop the Germans. For the same Australian force to then be also the first to stop the Japanese Army in the jungle at Milne Bay and Kokoda in 1942 is nothing less than extraordinary, surely? Can we not agree that, for the same soldiers to emerge victorious from such different campaigns, both times against evil regimes, is a great badge of honour, worthy of commemoration?

Ditto, the Great War, which I have been writing books on for the past few years, through Gallipoli, Fromelles, Pozieres, Villers Bretonneux and, lately, Le Hamel. Whichever way you cut it, the achievements of the Australians really were inspirational. I particularly cite what happened in March-April 1918, after the Germans launched their all-or-nothing Kaiserschlacht, straight at the British forces who – after nearly four years of privations, of losing so many of their gnarled veterans – crumpled. The Australians, on 12 occasions over five weeks, came face-to-face with overwhelming German might, and did not give an inch.


But you'd think the Brits' official historian, Brigadier General Sir James Edmonds, who was close to British Commander-in-Chief, Field Marshal Sir Douglas Haig, might know something about it? Edmonds insisted that the capacity of the Australian soldier in the Great War, made him, "We all agree ... the finest". France's Marshal Ferdinand Foch, for once, was in d'accord, noting in 1919, "The greatest individual fighter in the war was the Australian". A future British prime minister, Captain Anthony Eden, noted that our own General Sir John Monash was "the ablest soldier of the war, [and] it is no surprise that the enemy had rather be anywhere else in the world than facing the Anzacs".

I could fill dozens of pages with such quotes.

In sum, there is no doubt that Anzac Day has veered from what should be solemn commemoration, into what is too often garish celebration. And I couldn't agree more that we need to embrace other sagas in our storied history. But let us at least also do the Diggers their due. What they achieved really was staggering.

Our enduring respect will not remotely make up for the actual tragedy too often forgotten in all the flag-waving, of so many graves of Australian soldiers in so many parts of the world – 47,000 in France alone – but it is something.

Lest we forget.

[dales]

rube has the unmitigated gall to shyt on things he knows nothing about.

Not only this thread, but the thread which I posted about my missing grandson.

I consider the source.

Sad.

[BoSoxGal]

[Guinevere]

I disagree, I read it as them throwing away their lives uselessly for their love of Churchil.

But let's not fall out over Double Cock's infantile spite about it.

Agreed.

[rubato]

Fuck off and die you worthless piece of shit.

tch tch tch, the facts are what they are. Churchill fucked the colonials and then did it again in WWII because he recalled how the home front was devastated by the stupid slaughter in Europe in WWI.


The fuckup at Gallipoli comes back to one man. And the wogs cleaned your clocks.


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Really Double cock? You have such little respect for brave men and women whose boots you are not fit to lick.

Shows you up for the whiney, rat-tailed, scrawny, worthless, piece of shit you are.

Churchhill fucked the Anzacs over and then did it again in WWII at Anzio. The Turks reamed you in Galliopoli like the Ethiopians reamed the Italians at Adowa in 1896.

Get over it. Or go and forget your own history.


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[Gob]

I won't forget you Double Cock, no way I'll do that.

The pretend democrat, living off his wife, and pouring scorn on men and women whose boots he isn't fit to clean with his tongue.

You're a scrawny grey-rat-tailed loser, never been anywhere or done anything.

[Long Run]

Thanks, Gob. It is good to remember the brave and their contributions. Real Clear History had several fine articles as well.

[Scooter]

There was a lot of slaughter to go around, it's not as if dominion troops were singled out for cannon fodder when British soldiers were dying by the tens of thousands each day trying to reach elusive objectives. Those sacrifices took on added significance in the dominions where they are seen as key events in coming into their own as a nation. Canadians view Vimy Ridge in much the same way.