The GOP Health Plan -or-If You're Not Wealthy You're Screwed

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no dude, I prefer the pain.

methadone is fools gold.

after what I went thru to get off it do you really think that I d start again?

I wouldn t mind a few percocets one or two days a week to help get my vehicles fixed, but pain management programs don t allow that, you must take the stuff everyday or they thro you out.

they guarantee addiction.

i already racked up more debt than i can pay when i sought medical attention a few months ago...

i abandoned that route.

it s easier to just suffer and eventually die.

everyone dies, it ain t a big deal, you know?

til then i ll just smoke my marijuanica.... ;)

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I think that Clinton is a low class con artist, and perhaps worse....

I won t ask you to explain your vote for her.....
I'm happy to explain my vote for her...

Hillary Clinton is an arrogant, cynical, calculating, pocket lining liar... a most distasteful human being...

But compared to Trump, she looks like Mother Teresa...
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Same reason I very reluctantly voted for HRC, the alternative universe of Trump was far worse. :lol:

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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When forced to choose between the reprehensible and the unthinkable, I will choose the reprehensible every time...
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well jim, I have a long , well reasoned post all thought out, but it would probably have to be the last post I posted here because it would not be pleasant.

after all, I like you.

but I know that you can t like me because people like me are racist , woman haters. we are Nazi-like.

fascists.

we are stupid. we are less than....

we want to slaughter the gays.....

you have joined those voices who paint us as such.

you are that voice.

this is where I could go much further as to the why of it.


brooksie has never let me down, jim.

til this very day he is mr oriole.

a one year contract every year was how he played. he was loyal to the team, but that way he kept the team loyal to him too...

he probably gave up a lot of money that way, but it wasn t about the money for him.

you gotta be loyal to the game or it ain t baseball.

"...it s how you play the game."

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#fakehatecrimes.com

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but I know that you can t like me because people like me are racist , woman haters. we are Nazi-like.
Nah, I don't buy that...

You really are over playing your Diva role there...

I just want you to walk back in from the ledge...

Take a deep breath, and realize that your Great and Powerful Oz is nothing but a charlatan balloonist from Kansas...
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wesw wrote:...but I really haven t had a hero since brooks robinson......
You really amaze me, wes.  Just when I think that you are like a slab of concrete .... all mixed up and fully set .... you pull your head out of your anal sphincter and say something like this.
There may be hope for you yet.
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dales wrote:Same reason I very reluctantly voted for HRC, the alternative universe of Trump was is far worse. :lol:
FIFY, dales.
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If someone had told me two years ago, on May 6th 2015, that in the 2016 Presidential election I would be voting for Hillary Clinton, I'd have called the 51/50 squad to haul them off to The Happy Home...

I certainly would never have gotten in a car with that person behind the wheel...I would have rated my chances of being abducted by aliens as higher than the possibility that I would ever vote for Hillary Clinton...

At that time, my feeble imagination could not even begin to comprehend the possibility that someone as unspeakably horrendous as Donald Trump might actually become the GOP Presidential nominee...

And now we live the unimaginable dystopian nightmare every day...
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Whoops...
G.O.P. House Candidate in Montana Is Caught on Tape Praising Health Bill

WASHINGTON — When Greg Gianforte, the Republican running for an open House seat in Montana, was asked on Thursday whether he would have supported the bill repealing the Affordable Care Act that passed the House that day, he declined to answer.

“Greg needs to know all the facts, because it’s important to know exactly what’s in the bill before he votes on it,” said a spokesman for Mr. Gianforte, who is running in a special election for the seat vacated by Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke.

But on the same day, during a private conference call with Republican-leaning lobbyists in Washington, Mr. Gianforte offered a more supportive view of the health bill. Making the case for the “national significance” of the Montana election on May 25, Mr. Gianforte said: “The votes in the House are going to determine whether we get tax reform done, sounds like we just passed a health care thing, which I’m thankful for, sounds like we’re starting to repeal and replace.”

Mr. Gianforte’s attempt to appeal to two different audiences — Montana voters skeptical about the House’s repeal bill and Washington Republicans eager to undo President Barack Obama’s signature domestic accomplishment — illustrates the complicated politics surrounding the health law. While Republicans expect their elected officials to fulfill their longstanding vows to tear up the Affordable Care Act, the broader electorate is uneasy about abandoning the law’s protections and benefits it has come to depend on.

Even in Montana — a Republican-leaning state on the presidential level, but which still elects Democrats statewide — it appears no longer politically safe in the heat of a campaign to offer full-throated support for repealing Obamacare.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/05/us/p ... -bill.html

The other immediate beneficiary of the politically idiotic Health Care bill vote in the House should be Jon Ossoff in the Georgia special election; this may be what he needs to juice Democratic turnout enough to pull it off...

And looking down the road:
Cook Political Report shifts ratings for 20 GOP members after healthcare vote

The Cook Political report, one of the highest-profile political prognosticators, shifted ratings for 20 Republican House members in the wake of the American Health Care Act's passage on Thursday, giving Democrats a boost in their push to take back the House in 2018.

Three GOP members shifted from "lean Republican" to "toss up" categories — Reps. Mike Coffman, R-Colo., Steve Knight, R-Calf., and Jason Lewis, R-Minn., — while 11 moved from "likely Republican" to "lean Republican." An additional six lawmakers moved from "solidRepublicann" to "likely Republican."

Six Republican-held seats sit in the "toss up" category while the "lean Republican" category swelled from seven to 18 members. There are nine "toss up" seats listen in total — six of which are held by Republicans.

Among those who sit in the "toss up" or "lean Among those who sit in the "toss up" or "lean Republican" districts, five voted against the AHCA on Thursday — Reps. Barbara Comstock, R-Va., Will Hurd, R-Texas, Brian Fitzpatrick, R-Pa., Leonard Lance, R-N.J., and Coffman. Among those listed, Lance and Coffman saw ratings changes.

During and after Friday's vote, Democrats on the House floor chanted "na na na na, hey hey, goodbye," in reference to their hope that Republicans who voted for the bill are voted out of office in 2018 and give Democrats an opportunity to retake the House.

Senators revealed that they do not plan to take up the American Health Care Act and will, instead, write their own bill.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cook- ... r-20-gop-m
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"Oh, I thought you said "Dump Care." Sorry.
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She must be an undocumented Mexican and they discovered that she had a counterfeit green card which allowed her to receive Medicaid. It looks like the problem was taken care of when she was dumped over to the southern side of Trump's wall.

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BoSoxGal wrote:
Big RR wrote:
oldr_n_wsr wrote:It's the plan.
Never get any kind of replacement passed and let obamacare slowly die.
And then what?
oldr doesn't care - he's got his already.
And I pay a good percentage of it too. Over $9000 a year on my part.
Just don't make a law that I must have insurance or pay apenatly tax if I don't.

And I agree with Long Runs multiple posts on the subject.
Just as if your house is built near the ocean (pre-existing condition) you should pay more for homowners insurance.
If you are a bigger risk (smoker, alcoholic, motorcycle rider) you should pay more for insurance.
If you take your chances without insurance for a time, then buy insurance when you are sick (or think you are) you should pay more dpending on that pre-exisiting condition.
Need more = pay more.

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Need more = pay more.
For those unable to pay, die, already! 8-)

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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An article I quoted in a previous thread asked this basic question: If two people are suffering from the same medical condition, and require the same operation (or medicine, or specialized medical care) in order to survive—and one can pay and one cannot—is it okay for the poor person to die? Yes or no.
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Yes, in this country it is.

Civilized countries know and do better.
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Civilized people do better.


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