I'm supposed to be outraged about Kathy Griffin

[Scooter]

[Joe Guy]

There is a difference. Kathy Griffin was trying to be funny.

[Scooter]

All the more reason. She never had any intent or wish that Trump would actually come to such a harm. These evolutionary throwbacks, on the other hand...

[BoSoxGal]

It was poor taste, but totally different intent from all the effigies of Obama that were burned/mutilated.

I don't really buy the story about Barron crying when he saw it, either, because I don't believe anything the Trumps say - and that's their fault, not mine.

If he did cry, I feel sorry for him. I'm sure he loves his father despite his father's many deep flaws.

[RayThom]

Personally, I took it for what it was -- sick humor. It didn't bother me in the least. However, I had a gut feeling it was going to cost her and, unfortunately, it may be a career ender for her.

I don't believe the photo shoot was just for the outrageous photo itself. I think there was a crazy planned tie-in that may now never materialize.

When I first saw it I thought it might very well be a parody of this old Warren Oates classic.



To paraphrase Aldous Huxley,"You pays your money, and you takes your chances." See ya', Kathy.

[Sue U]

[Scooter]

Interesting how the tune has changed now that the shoe is on the other foot:

President Donald Trump, along with many others, was understandably disgusted this week by a photo of Kathy Griffin in which she is seen holding a prop resembling a bloodied and beheaded version of the president’s head.

Early Wednesday morning, Trump called the photo “sick” and said Griffin “should be ashamed of herself.”

t’s an entirely justifiable reaction to a photo that has gotten Griffin fired from her gig as co-host of CNN’s New Year’s Eve programming.

But it’s also worth noting that Trump had a much different reaction when someone who later supported his run for president also joked about killing the commander in chief.

In the lead-up to the 2012 presidential election, musician Ted Nugent made comments at a National Rifle Association meeting in St. Louis that, like Griffin’s photo, led to an investigation by the Secret Service.

“We need to ride into that battlefield and chop their [the Obama administration’s] heads off in November,” Nugent said at the time.

He added, “If Barack Obama becomes the next president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”

Trump addressed Nugent’s comments directly. But rather than saying the musician should be “ashamed” of himself, as he said of Griffin, Trump declared that Nugent demonstrated “the anger people have towards” then–President Obama, even if his “figure of speech” was a bit “unfortunate.”

Nugent would go on to become one of Trump’s loudest supporters once he officially launched his presidential campaign, saying at one point that “Donald Trump is as close to Ted Nugent as you’re going to get in politics.”

He would go on to say other things too, like a joke about assassinating Harry Reid, and that Obama and Hillary Clinton “should be tried for treason & hung.”

Nevertheless, Trump invited Nugent to the White House last month, where he posed for a photo with a man who has repeatedly called for the deaths of high-level government officials.

On Wednesday, Politico reporter Matthew Nussbaum asked White House press secretary Sean Spicer how Griffin’s photo compared to Nugent’s past comments.

“Obviously [Griffin’s] conduct has been widely condemned, and it’s not a partisan thing to say joking about violence toward the president is unacceptable,” Nussbaum began.

“But on that note, I wanted to ask about Ted Nugent, who joked multiple times about assassinating President Barack Obama, who said Hillary Clinton should be hanged. He was invited to the White House for dinner by President Trump. Do you believe that was appropriate? And if Trump is offended by this incident, why was he not bothered by all of Mr. Nugent’s comments?”

Spicer all but balked at the question.

“I’d have to look back and see what those statements were and what the reaction was at the time,” Spicer said.

Nussbaum gave an example: when Nugent said that Obama should “suck on [his] machine gun.” Spicer had no answer and moved on to the next question.

[Big RR]

Of course Nugent is crazy (who else would support Trump?). Griffin? Just trying to be funny and outrageous (and succeeding). And IMHO the president is always fair game for any sort of political protest of any sort, even satire or jokes, however offensive they might be to some--it goes with the job.

[rubato]

Griffin admitted her mistake and apologized for it. Making her more moral than the entire Trump administration.


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[oldr_n_wsr]

I never found her funny. This just adds to that opinion.

[Joe Guy]

In the meantime, Griffin has moved a head with her life...

[dales]

Griffin admitted her mistake and apologized for it. Making her more moral than the entire Trump administration.


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A mighty low bar, indeed.

[rubato]

Griffin admitted her mistake and apologized for it. Making her more moral than the entire Trump administration.


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A mighty low bar, indeed.

But one the racist south has never met.


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[BoSoxGal]

Someone's started leaving nooses at the Smithsonian Museum of African American History; one on the grounds last week, one left in an inside exhibit today.

I've never felt less hopeful for our country.

[ex-khobar Andy]

Yes Kathy Griffin is not funny (I seem to recall some sort of New Year thing when she was miming giving Anderson Cooper (?? do I have that right - seems implausible) oral gratification) so she thereby commits the worst crime a comedian can.

Barron Trump is 11, I believe - so if he saw the pictures we all saw on TV and really believed that his father had been decapitated, he is one fucked up kid. He's not four. And the Obama girls had to put up with a lot of abuse of both their parents. That still doesn't make what Griffin did right; but the false 'look at me, I'm a victim' coming from Stage right is pathetic.

Meanwhile Sarah Palin ("Gabby Giffords in the cross hairs - how did that happen?") is a heroine to the right.

Yes it was inappropriate; although I believe that mocking the putative death of one man is miniscule in comparison with the actual, purposeful, acts of that man today. Not on the same page, not in the same chapter, not even in the same book.

[Econoline]

[Lord Jim]

Griffin admitted her mistake and apologized for it. Making her more moral than the entire Trump administration.


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A mighty low bar, indeed.

But one that I myself have never met.


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Fixed

[MGMcAnick]

Thanks for your picture Econoline. He's out to behead the entire world. I wonder what it will be like when my grandchildren are my age.

[BoSoxGal]

I find much peace in being childless these days. The planet is doomed until it rids itself of its human parasite problem.

[dales]

My children (and grandchildren) have given me such joy.

I don't know what I'd do without them.

Earth Abides.

(that's the title to a very good book)