How The Mighty Have Fallen
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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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oldr_n_wsr
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I think his pain meds have taken hold of him.
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I'm going to save that to use for my next response to a wes post...oldr_n_wsr wrote:I think his pain meds have taken hold of him.



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I'm no fan of Tiger, but the lack of empathy and the outright chortling at his downfall is astounding. Judge not lest you be judged. One never knows when you may be needing help or a judgment-free hand. Plenty of people laughing at him have had their own dark times too.
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
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You are right. I am sorry for my joke (I do suspect he may have a problem but that is not for me to judge).
Thank you Guin.
Thank you Guin.
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Cudos for that, oldr. I, too, have sometimes had similar feelings when some loudmouth or other so-called celebrity goes off the deep edge, but we all should try to recall that these are real human beings suffering real problems.
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Schadenfreude is one of my character defects and I am working on it (with the help of a higher power and other people, thanks again guin
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I have found no matter how much I ask for it to be removed, it is not. What I do get is lessons to learn. Much like this one.
A lesson learned is a moral earned. or something like that
I have found no matter how much I ask for it to be removed, it is not. What I do get is lessons to learn. Much like this one.
A lesson learned is a moral earned. or something like that
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I didn't chortle; I merely addressed his legal culpability. I think his downfall is terribly sad, I really admired his drive and work ethic and it was disheartening to learn of his issues beginning when he lost Elin and his kids - not because I was being judgmental, but because it's nice to believe that every now and then some fresh faced kid gets to make and enjoy a happily ever after.
Life can be cruel; whatever the truth of Tiger's relationship with his dad, he's definitely not able to keep it together so well without his guiding hand.
Life can be cruel; whatever the truth of Tiger's relationship with his dad, he's definitely not able to keep it together so well without his guiding hand.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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Tiger's going into painkiller rehab in order to maintain shared custody of his kids. Good for him.
He's booked the whole men's unit for himself. I'm not sure how well rehab works without the group therapy aspect, but I wish him well.
He's booked the whole men's unit for himself. I'm not sure how well rehab works without the group therapy aspect, but I wish him well.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
How The Mighty Have Fallen
That group would probably be fawning all over him looking for some kind of linkage. His zen-like individualism will probably serve him well under the circumstances. Some people find themselves better from within than from without.BoSoxGal wrote:Tiger's going into painkiller rehab... I'm not sure how well rehab works without the group therapy aspect..
That said, a "painkiller free" Tiger may not have the old mojo to get back to where he used to be, but he may be good enough for future Senior PGA Championships where he can rebuild an acceptable golfing reputation. I wish him well.

“In a world whose absurdity appears to be so impenetrable, we simply must reach a greater degree of understanding among us, a greater sincerity.”
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If his last back surgery was as successful as he says it was, why is he still taking opiates? When I had a double laminectomy back in '85 they sent me home with codeine (which I never took) and that was it. It worked too, I have been mostly pain-free since then.
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BoSoxGal wrote:I could convict him on the dashcam video and his statements to LEOs with just basic foundational testimony from the state crime lab technician. This case is pretty slam dunk DUI.
Long discourses about the science of inebriation by crime lab experts are only necessary when the driver doesn't look impaired on the video and there isn't any driving behavior either.
The courts are an assembly line run by ignorant prosecutors like you.
I'm sure you can get a conviction based on bullshit, juries are very complaint.
"Long discourses about the science of inebriation" are exactly relevant when other mechanisms of impairment might be involved even when the individual looks impaired. Have you ever seen a diabetic with a low blood sugar level? or a high blood sugar level? Have you ever seen an elderly driver who was confused?
You operate at a low level even for a prosecutor. And in the forensics community prosecutors are known for stupidity. I had a prosecutor ask me to draw a picture of a drug sample I had tested months before! !!
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Rubato's just being a whiny pathetic bitch - don't worry, the wool is gone from my eyes concerning him and his sad little rants don't bother me.
This latest post only reveals his total ignorance about standards of evidence and requirements to prosecute a DUI - he seems to believe that the State is required to disprove any other reason for impaired driving despite having toxicology positive for narcotics. He's merely exhibiting his total ignorance, as is par for the course.
This latest post only reveals his total ignorance about standards of evidence and requirements to prosecute a DUI - he seems to believe that the State is required to disprove any other reason for impaired driving despite having toxicology positive for narcotics. He's merely exhibiting his total ignorance, as is par for the course.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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Does that apply to everyone?Guinevere wrote:I'm no fan of Tiger, but the lack of empathy and the outright chortling at his downfall is astounding. Judge not lest you be judged. One never knows when you may be needing help or a judgment-free hand. Plenty of people laughing at him have had their own dark times too.
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.
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rubato wrote:BoSoxGal wrote:I'm sure you can get a conviction based on bullshit, juries are very complaint.
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I wouldn’t be very compliant; I wouldn’t vote to convict anyone without hard evidence. And no one would change my mind; I would not care if deliberations lasted until hell froze over. I wouldn’t care what he looked, sounded or smelled like. Justice is a very serious thing. Today he is in the dock tomorrow it could be you or me or anyone else.
Government is a dangerous thing.
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.