Do you think they've found her?

[BoSoxGal]

I don't know any of the others, but American Pickers is cool.

But yes, as little as I watch TV, I've noticed that Discovery and History and A&E are all very, very different than they were when they first launched.

[Big RR]

Bravo leads that list; not much to shout Bravo for.

[Guinevere]

TIGHAR is right -- the History Channel is (sadly) utter BS:

https://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/pre ... _2017.html

Alleged Photo of Amelia Earhart Photo Dated Before Her 1937 Disappearance


History Channel documentary centerpiece cannot be Earhart.

The photo at the center of the History Channel show “Amelia Earhart – The Lost Evidence” was taken before October, 1935 – nearly two years before Amelia Earhart and navigator Fred Noonan disappeared on July 2, 1937. Despite the breathless assurances of the show’s experts, the people in the photo cannot possibly be the lost fliers.
The picture is one of many in a travel book titled “Umino Seimeisen Wagananyou No Sugata: (Nanyo Gunto Shashincho)” which translates as “The Life Line of the Sea, My South Sea Memoir (South Sea Archipelago Photo Book).” It is by Notoaki Nishino of Palau and published by Fumio Almano in Tokyo on October 10, 1935. The book may be viewed on line. The photo is on book page 44 (Web Reader Frame 99).

The captions read, “Jaluit island, Jabor port” (at left of the photo) and “Jabor is a rare great port. Once a month when a big ship enters the port and brings many rare materials, a Big Chief schooner and a Small Chief schooner gather the port and make Jabor so lively.” (under the photo)

It is the same photo found by Earhart researcher Les Kinney in National Archives Records of the Office of Naval Intelligence, Record Group 38, among intelligence material assembled in preparation for the invasion of the Marshalls in 1944. TIGHAR was among those who were incredulous that the photo showed Earhart and Noonan in Japanese custody. The picture was undated; there were no Japanese, no guards, the figure alleged to be Amelia had hair that was much too long; the identification of a man as Fred Noonan depended upon a photo of Noonan that had been reversed to make the hairline match; their clothes were wrong; an indistinct blob behind a ship was proclaimed to be Earhart’s Electra on a barge – and yet, to dozens of media outlets, the photo was heralded as “proof” of Earhart’s fate.

TIGHAR determined early on that the photo was not misfiled as Mr. Kinney believed but was exactly where it should have been. The caption on the Office of Naval Intelligence photo reads:

“PL – Marshall Islands, Jaluit Atoll, Jaluit Island. ONI #14381 Jaluit Harbor”

The pasted-on caption made us suspect that this was a photo found in a pre-war commercial publication, but finding the original source seemed like a nearly impossible task. Never underestimate the power of a skeptical public empowered by social media.
Exactly who first discovered the photo in the book is not clear, but @baron-yameneko may have been the first to sound the alarm. On July 9 @SamuraiK7 (Kiyo Marco T) put it out on Yahoo Japan and @MsSamAdams (Samantha Adams) quickly put it out on Twitter. The cat was out of the bag and Gator 99.5, a country music station in Lake Charles, Louisiana was perhaps the first to break the story on its website.

The centerpiece of the History Channel show has collapsed, but what about all that other evidence? In fact, the other evidence presented in the show is factually inaccurate information and a re-hash of old, thoroughly debunked folklore.
• The show mis-states the amount of fuel aboard the Electra (see The Chater Report). The plane did not have enough fuel to reach the Marshall Islands.
• The Japanese survey ship Koshu cooperated in the search for Earhart. The logs of the ship survive. It was never at Mili Atoll and it found no trace of Earhart. (Ameria o sagase, Searching for Amelia, Fukiko Aoki,Tankobon, 1983.)
• Construction of the first Japanese military installations in the Marshalls were begun in 1940. (“How Japan Fortified the Mandated Islands” by Thomas Wilds in United States Naval Institute Proceedings, April 1955, Vol. 81, No. 4; Nanyo – The Rise and Fall of the Japanese in Micronesia 1885 – 1945, Mark R. Peattie,Ph.D., Naval Institute Press, 1988).
• There are dozens of mutually-conflicting “eye witness accounts” of Earhart and Noonan in Japanese custody in the Marshals and on Saipan. The History Channel show cherry-picked a handful to construct their narrative.
• It is true that some senior American officers were later of the opinion that Earhart had been captured but there is no evidence to support their belief. Other senior officers were adamant that it was not true.
• The piece of metal found on Mili Atoll and supposedly matched to a Lockheed Electra was matched to a Model 12A “Electra Junior” – a completely different type from Earhart’s Model 10E (photos available from TIGHAR).
• The transmitter on Earhart’s Electra was not in the nose of the plane. The Western Electric 13C was in the cabin behind the fuel tanks (photos available from TIGHAR).
• The History Channel show completely ignored the elephant in the room – the abundance of solid evidence TIGHAR has uncovered in twelve expeditions and over 28 years of scientific research. The evidence supports the hypothesis that Earhart and Noonan landed and died as castaways on Nikumaroro (formerly Gardner Island) in the Republic of Kiribati.

END.

(internal links supporting the TIGHAR facts are available within the link)

[Guinevere]

History channel discontinues showing (or streaming) its Earhart report:

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/amelia- ... 202499852/

History has decided not make a documentary about Amelia Earhart available on streaming and on-demand platforms as it investigates challenges to evidence behind claims made in the two-hour special.

“Amelia Earhart: The Lost Evidence” proposed that Earhart, who disappeared while piloting a plane over the Pacific Ocean in 1937, had survived a crash landing and been captured by the Japanese military. As evidence, it offered up a photo that analysts claimed was likely taken between 1937 and 1943. The special premiered earlier this month on the A+E Networks cable channel.

But on the heels of reports about the photograph and capture theory, a Japanese military blogger stepped forward last week with evidence that the photograph had been taken in 1935, two years before Earhart’s disappearance. The blogger cited a book allegedly published in 1935 containing the photograph.

That claim counters assessments by multiple analysts quoted in the History special, but itself has been challenged by an analyst who told History that the authenticity of the book may be questionable.

History said last week that it would investigate the photograph. The network decided to not move forward with scheduled re-airings of the special and to remove it from on-demand and streaming platforms as the investigation continues.

In a statement released last week, History said, “HISTORY has a team of investigators exploring the latest developments about Amelia Earhart and we will be transparent in our findings. Ultimately, historical accuracy is most important to us and our viewers.”

Can't help but at that last statement....

[Crackpot]

You think the execs at the history channel looked around and realized they can't even see the rails they went off anymore?

[Guinevere]

Anything is possible. More like they are crawling into a hole because of how quickly they became ridiculed for this one.

[Big RR]

they just need the right disclaimer; it is entertainment after all.

I recall a series on commercial TV called In Search of (in the 80s I think); narrated by Leonard Nimoy ( assme to get some gravitas), it was a half hour show that looked into mysteries, from the Bemruda Triangle to The Lochness Monster to the Disappearance of Amelia Earhart (I don't recall their conclusion there). I always recall their disclaimer at the beginning--something like "this program will present one plausible answer, but not the only one, to the mysteries we will examine". With that in mind, it was an entertaining show, certainly a lot better than most of the reality programming today, and I would always take their pronouncements with a grain of salt (like I do a lot of the History Channel things--like the Nazis invoking occult powers, e.g.).

[BoSoxGal]

We watched that show, and I recall the Earhart episode because it's the first I had ever heard of her. I believe they presented the Nikumaroro landing theory.

[Big RR]

the first I ever recall hearing of her was in a Film called Flight for Freedom, which speculated that she was spying on Japanese held islands for the navy using the flight as a cover (OK, they didn't use her name, but the guy introducing the movie said it was based on her disappearance, and that her husband had a hand in the script). I recall being intrigued that the government would lie about what happened so long after WW2 ended (the movie was in the 40s, but I saw it around 1962), leaving the mystery still open, and it led me to read a few books about her (as well as to a healthy distrust of anything the government said).

[Guinevere]

I read her bio as a young girl, and I remember "In Search Of" as well. More 70s than 80s, I think.... (yes, 1977-1982) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Search ... TV_series)

Anyway, she always fascinated me, as I was interesting in flying/learning to fly. Plus her last name is a name in my family tree (albeit, I learned, spelled differently), so that was another point to make me interested.