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Drivers may be seeing red, even if they aren't blinded by the light.
With just a month left before the Aug. 21 total solar eclipse, the Oregon Department of Transportation is gearing up for a projected 1 million travelers to hit the state's highways.

Less than three minutes of darkness on the morning of Aug. 21 could mean up to a week of congestion on roads leading into the 60-mile wide path of totality that stretches across the state. ODOT spokesman Don Hamilton compared the potential crush to "a football day on I-5, where the Ducks and Beavers are both playing at home, but multiplied by 10."

ODOT is preparing to keep the roads as clear as possible in the days leading up to and after the eclipse. The state will halt road construction, paving and non-emergent maintenance work during peak eclipse traffic. Permits for over-width trucks will be suspended from noon Aug. 19 until 12:01 a.m. Aug. 22.

State agencies are also warning about the increased risk for wildfires. The influx of cars on highways surrounded by dry grass and vegetation makes parts of central Oregon particularly susceptible.

The expected gridlock would make responding to a wildfire particularly difficult. Selected weigh stations could be repurposed into staging areas for emergency vehicles to cut down on response time."One of our biggest concerns is that roads get so crowded, we won't be able to get emergency vehicles down the road," Hamilton said. "If all the cars are stopped dead, where do they go?"

ODOT is also worried about drivers stepping out of their cars to watch the eclipse from the highway if they don't make it to a good viewing spot on time. Rumors of visitors coming in from neighboring California and Washington the morning of could further clog up the roads, especially in the Portland metro area that already sees busy commuter traffic.

"It might be wise to decide to work from home," Hamilton said. "The concerns are not just inside the path of totality."

To avoid being stuck in the car as the eclipse is overhead, ODOT advises starting early in a well-stocked vehicle. Expect your roadtrip to take "a lot longer" than normal. And don't expect to pick up supplies on the way, Hamilton said, as small towns like Madras are expecting tens of thousands of visitors that could leave store shelves emptied of food and water.

Oregon State Police Sergeant Kyle Hove said that people should plan their routes, expect heavy traffic and check tripcheck.com for updates on traffic conditions. Oregon Emergency Management urged people to be prepared for loss of cell service as more visitors increase the load on networks.

Rental cars from Portland International Airport are sold out for the days surrounding the eclipse, Port of Portland spokeswoman Kama Simonds said. August is expected to be the busiest month in the history of the airport, Simonds said, although not just because of the eclipse.

"If you don't already have your ticket, you're not likely to find a lot of space left," she said.

Getting out of the path of totality could be worse than getting in, Hamilton said. While drivers might trickle into Oregon in the days and weeks leading up to Monday, Hamilton said that the crush of everyone trying to leave immediately could result in gridlock on par with an enormous ice storm, "but without the ice and salt."

The influx of visitors would place a huge amount of stress on an infrastructure system that's already strained, Hamilton said.

"This is one occasion where I hope I'm wrong," he said. "This is a weeklong event in terms of traffic, if we get the number of vehicles projected, but maybe it'll be like Y2K and nothing happens."
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The BBC concentrated its coverage efforts on the first landfall of the shadow across the western end of Cornwall (from St Ives to Lizard), which was packed with an extraordinary number of visitors, although Cornwall did not have nearly as many as expected leading to many specially organised events to be left with very small attendance. The veteran eclipse-watcher Patrick Moore was brought in to head a live programme, but the eclipse was clouded out. BBC One also produced a special version of their Balloon Idents for the event. The BBC did not have a presence at Goonhilly on the Lizard Peninsula, one of the few places in Cornwall where the clouds parted just in time for the total eclipse to be visible.

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Here in Columbia MO we are right on the center line so we get 2 minutes 37 seconds of totality at my house. Max is 2'40" if I want to drive about 5 miles south. I have seen one total eclipse before (May 1994 from western NY) and three partials. If anyone wants to come over PM me and BYOB if you insist on Bud/Miller/horse piss. Otherwise I will supply.

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ex-khobar Andy wrote:Here in Columbia MO we are right on the center line so we get 2 minutes 37 seconds of totality at my house. Max is 2'40" if I want to drive about 5 miles south. I have seen one total eclipse before (May 1994 from western NY) and three partials. If anyone wants to come over PM me and BYOB if you insist on Bud/Miller/horse piss. Otherwise I will supply.
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XKA - I'm very tempted. MapQuest says 1300 miles and 20 hours of driving - so two long days each way. Not sure that's how I want to spend my birthday week.
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I'm tempted as well, but so amny of these "epic" things have fizzled out (remember Halley's Comet?) I'd bet it would rain wherever I went.

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Living in San Francisco, driving several hundred miles just to experience darkness during daylight hours in the summertime seems really gratuitous...

I'll have to settle for the partial that we're going to get here:

https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/in/ ... -francisco

Which probably won't be noticeable anyway, since the odds are pretty good there will be a thick cloud cover that day...
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Big RR wrote:I'm tempted as well, but so amny of these "epic" things have fizzled out (remember Halley's Comet?) I'd bet it would rain wherever I went.
That is why most visitors here are going to the high desert where the odds of a clear sky are very high. This week in the lowlands we have alternated between sunny mornings and mornings of low clouds that burn off around 11:30 (right about the time the eclipse will be over here).

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And remember, guys, don't look directly at it while masturbating. You'll run the risk of going blind in both eyes.

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That is why most visitors here are going to the high desert
Well, you learn something new every day...

I had no idea that Oregon had a "high desert"....

I just assumed the whole place was green and soggy... 8-)
SOUTHEAST Oregon's remote high-desert country is a little-known and remarkably diverse region that covers nearly one-quarter of the state. Wind-seared desert and lush wetlands border stunning geologic formations; pelicans and trumpeter swans fly over pockmarked lava beds, and dry winds sweep through ghost towns where sheepherders used to spend the winter months.

Most of Oregon's high desert, with an average altitude of 4,000 feet, is in Harney and Malheur Counties. Only 34,500 residents live in the counties' 20,125 square miles, an area larger than Vermont plus New Hampshire. Seventy-five percent of the land is owned or managed by Federal or state agencies, primarily the Bureau of Land Management.

While the high desert is somewhat dry, it is only arid relative to Western Oregon. The region averages 15 inches (380 mm) of annual rainfall; the Alvord Desert, however, gets only 7 inches (180 mm) of rain each year. Contrary to its name, most of the high desert is not dry enough to truly qualify as desert, and biologically, most of the region is classified as scrubland or steppe. [So lib should want to visit; he could find some steppe people there... 8-) ]
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This bustling town will be bursting at the seams.

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Long Run wrote:This bustling town will be bursting at the seams.

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One hopes they've gotten some newer cars by now.....
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...or maybe not. I'd go there just for the old cars.
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Econoline wrote:...or maybe not. I'd go there just for the old cars.
I think it looks like the set from Cars!
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Guinevere wrote:
Econoline wrote:...or maybe not. I'd go there just for the old cars.
I think it looks like the set from Cars!
They just want to let the good times roll!

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A more recent photograph of Madras, Oregon:

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A really cool eclipse demo site based on zip code. See a preview of what you will see on that day, and when. And how far you have to go to see the whole thing!

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ ... active-map
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In zip code 94116 , you will see a partial solar eclipse.

The eclipse will peak at 10:15:05 am PDT, when the moon obscures 75.4% of the sun.
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  • In zip code 60115, you will see a partial solar eclipse.
    The eclipse will peak at 1:17:38 pm CDT, when the moon obscures 88% of the sun.


    If you want to see the total eclipse, you'll need to travel 237 miles SW.


88% ain't bad. If I drive down to St. Louis and it's cloudy (which, given my usual luck with astronomical phenomena, it WILL be) I'll have wasted >8 hours and >16 gallons of gas for nothing. I think I'll just stay home, hope for the best, and not ruin the day for all those Missourians.
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