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The loathesome pig king of the loathesome pigs! :evil: :arg



That's an insult to pigs, but the moniker is already in place.
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Long Island police department responds to Trump: We don't tolerate roughing up prisoners

The Suffolk County Police Department said they do not tolerate the “roughing up of prisoners” in response to President Trump’s address to police on Long Island on Wednesday, in which the president said cops should treat subjects violently.

“The SCPD has strict rules & procedures relating to the handling of prisoners. Violations of those rules are treated extremely seriously,” the department tweeted.

“As a department, we do not and will not tolerate roughing up of prisoners.”

The president laid out violent methods as to how police should treat subjects in a speech that was meant to address the brutal criminal gang known as MS-13, or Mara Salvatrucha.

"When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddywagon, you just see them thrown in, rough, I said, ‘Please don't be too nice,' " the president said.

“Like when you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting their head, you know, the way you put their hand over?” the president continued. “Like, don’t hit their head and they’ve just killed somebody. Don’t hit their head? I said, ‘You can take the hand away, OK?’ ”
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... mp-we-dont

This is just another shiny object divert-and-distract attempt by Il Boobce...

Trump has had yet another truly godawful week, and he'd much rather have the media focusing on some inappropriate remarks he made regarding something he has no control over (local police suspect handling procedures) than everything that's gone wrong or blown up in face this week...
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When the President of the United States of America gives two speeches in one week - to the Boy Scouts of America Jamboree and to a congregation of law enforcement officers - that contain vulgarities and encouragement of avarice and criminal brutality, among other despicable characteristics, it's more than a distraction.

He failed on repealing Obamacare - I suppose that's part of his bad week but the majority of Americans are rejoicing. At this point I think most of us have little faith in his staff, although the appointment of General Kelly is a bright light - but it's hard to imagine he'll tolerate Trump for long. Scaramucci is just a reflection of Trump, no surprise there.

A bad week? Every week since January 20th has been bad, some just worse than others.

But in this country, at this time, to have the POTUS joke about throwing suspects into paddy wagons (RIP Freddy Gray, innocent suspect murdered by police who escaped accountability) and encouraging police to be rougher with suspects . . . it's beyond reprehensible, and he's not saying it to distract - he's saying it because it's what's in his puny shriveled black and rotting heart.
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I am puzzled. The POTUS mentioned at this police meeting that he is gonna end gang violence. Did the gangs not pay attention to his speech last Jan 20th?

The POTUS declared then that he, on that very day, ended all gang violence. I quote: "the gangs and the drugs have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. This American carnage stops right here and stops right now." Wha happened?

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I remember that speech.

Sometimes I think our president speaks out of his ass.

(Only when his lips are moving.)
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RayThom wrote: Sometimes I think our president speaks out of his ass.

(Only when his lips are moving.)

Ya think??
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:funee:

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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SCROTUS told the police he had no problem with them hurting people. Even seemed to encourage it.

Is this what he meant?
  • WATCH: Tennessee deputies tortured 19-year-old inmate with Tasers while he was strapped to a chair
    BOB BRIGHAM
    01 AUG 2017 AT 17:11 ET

    Three Cheatham County Sheriff’s deputies have been placed on administrative leave after multiple videos emerged showing the officers using tasers to torture an 18-year-old inmate.

    “Jordan Elias Norris, 19, has filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court accusing the deputies of deprivation of civil rights, citing the use of excessive force and failure to protect after he was repeatedly stunned with Tasers in the jail in November 2016,” The Tennessean reports. “He suffered more than 40 pairs of Taser burns, many of which are unaccounted for by authorities, the lawsuit states.”

    The incidents – while the victim was bound in a restraint chair – were documented by jail surveillance video and by video cameras on the Tasers. Pictures after Norris was released show extensive burn scaring across his body.

    “I’ll keep doing that until I run out of batteries,” one deputy is heard saying.

    Cheatham County Sheriff Mike Breedlove has contacted District Attorney General Ray Crouch Jr. to request the Tennessee Bureau of Investigations conduct an independent investigation.

    “As Sheriff, I want our citizens to know that any inappropriate behavior that may have violated an individual’s rights will not be tolerated,” Sheriff Breedlove wrote in a statement. “I have placed the employees involved on administrative leave while the investigation is conducted.”

    Norris was being held on marijuana and weapons charges and was publicly taunted by Sheriff Breedlove upon being arrested. Tennessee is not among the eight states that have legalized the plant.

    “On the sheriff office’s Facebook page from the week Norris was arrested — the sheriff himself seemed to taunt Norris. He wrote that Norris ‘peed a little bit’ when he was first arrested by the SWAT Team,” News Channel 5 reported. “The sheriff called Norris ‘a drug dealer by trade and on the fast track to live the thug Life.'”

    News Channel 5 also interviewed the victim’s step-father, William Chapman.

    “I said, ‘Jordan what is that?’ It looked like he had the measles. And he said, ‘That’s where they tased me.’ I could not wrap my head around that,” Chapman said.

    “I was actually giving the police benefit of the doubt over my own child because I was thinking he must have been fighting back, he must have been resisting,” Chapman explained. “When I found that he was actually strapped to a restraint chair, it was even more mind boggling. It didn’t make any sense.”

    “It’s terrible,” the victim said, his eyes watering as he recalled the ordeal.

    [WARNING] This video is disturbing:

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I hope they throw the book at these thugs, and they all do serious time...Absolutely reprehensible...

And incredibly stupid as well...

These geniuses had to know they're performance was being captured on video tape...
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But they didn't care--I wonder why? Let's see what actually happens to them.

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Big RR wrote:But they didn't care--I wonder why? Let's see what actually happens to them.
It's probably another one of those stories that we've heard the front end of, but will never hear what happens.

I don't want to appear prejudicial, but I was thinking "another black kid in the south" when I was reading the story.
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Sadly that's the case. Why do the police do things like this? Because they can.

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Sadism is understandable, horrible as it is. Some people are evil and enjoy inflicting pain. Usually, they do this in secret to avoid exposure.

More puzzling to me is the depth of sheer ignorance and stupidity involved. In-house video filming the entire thing? Video on the tasers?

What mentation occurs (if any)? I can only assume these are the kinds of people who think that TV programmes such as "Breaking Bad" or "Outlaw Bikers" are how-to shows.
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I can't understand why the deputies are on administrative leave. If I watched that video, it wouldn't take me any time to recommend termination of the deputies to the sheriff and commissioners, there is nothing that could defend that behavior, period.
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I'd bet it's that they're entitled to a full hearing before they can be terminated; I know that's the case in many teacher's contracts, so I presume it's the same with cops. I've been involved in some teacher hearings, and there is even a limited discovery period.

But so far as I can see, there is no reason they should not be arrested for assault and battery. But somehow I'd bet they won't be.

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Lord Jim wrote:I hope they throw the book at these thugs, and they all do serious time...Absolutely reprehensible...
No "AdSeg" for these bastards, place them in "GenPop" on the mainline and see how they enjoy that!

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Is Cheatham County between Dewey County and Howe County?

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