Don't carry on nurses...

[Burning Petard]

I believe there is no inherent human right to live a life unoffended.

However, I do ask that I be informed when I offend someone. That way I can calibrate my offensiveness and more closely provide the exact degree of social friction I may intend.

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[RayThom]

I believe there is no inherent human right to live a life offended.
However, I do ask that I be informed when I offend someone. That way I can calibrate my offensiveness and more closely provide the exact degree of social friction I may intend... snailgate

OMG... so aptly put. That's me, to a T.

[Gob]

This photo is from the Wales news service - a group of NHS nurses:



This photo is from a U.K. costume retailer, playing off antiquated stereotypes and male sexual fantasies about nurses:



The nurses have the right to be offended and the hospital has the right to reject funds raised by these means. I'm sure they can find a less discerning charity to donate to.

and this is a photo of a bunch of men in drag raising money for charity.



If you cannot distinguish between the three, you need to see an optician, or apply for a guide dog.

Oh, and if you find the last image "sexualised", well whatever butters your muffin sweetheart.

[BoSoxGal]

Of course I can distinguish between them.

I also recognize why a great many women in the nursing field might find men in drag as nurses, wearing outdated nursing uniforms that play into old and sexist stereotypes, demeaning.

In any case, you can be as self righteous about it as you like but the fact remains that the world IS changing and the casual sexism that is quite often defended and presented here is no longer acceptable in most professional workplaces. Deal with it.

[Gob]

Of course I can distinguish between them.

I also recognize why a great many women in the nursing field might find men in drag as nurses, wearing outdated nursing uniforms that play into old and sexist stereotypes, demeaning.

In any case, you can be as self righteous about it as you like but the fact remains that the world IS changing and the casual sexism that is quite often defended and presented here is no longer acceptable in most professional workplaces. Deal with it.

Where is the "casual sexism" here?

[Bicycle Bill]

This photo is from the Wales news service - a group of NHS nurses:

Well, I'm offended.  Each and every one of those women are naked underneath their scrubs.  Have they no shame??

-"BB"-

[Bicycle Bill]

As far as the quandary regarding whether or not to accept the money that was raised because they feel it was raised in an offensive and demeaning manner, there is in fact a historical precedent for accepting it anyway.

During the 1930s and 1940s in Germany, medical 'research' was conducted and extensively documented.  Much of the data and findings were gathered as a result of monstrous and inhumane 'experimentation' but the fact could not be denied that the records were scientifically valid and provided information that had not existed up to that point.  Logic and the quest for knowledge eventually won out over feelings of outrage, and it would not be too far-fetched to say that over the last seventy years medical science (advanced in no small part by experiments conducted by Joseph Mengele and others) has been able to save countless lives and otherwise benefit humanity.

-"BB"-

[dales]

Same deal with Imperial Japan human experiments in Unit 731.

[RayThom]

sci·ence
/ˈsīəns/
noun
noun: science

"... the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment."

There are so many discoveries in the name of science that cannot be ignored regardless the methodologies used.
Modern medical science has, in fact, gained from Mengele's “dirty little secrets” regardless the whitewashing from "reputable" organizations and practitioners.

"Man's inhumanity to man."

[Scooter]

I have probably seen a lot more drag than most people here, and know a LOT of drag queens. So that either helps me understand it better or desensitizes me to its inherent disrespect for women, take your pick.

You'll see two major genres of drag performance. There is high drag, which strives to achieve a near perfect representation of a female persona. If that is an invention of the performer, that means tastefully glamourous clothing, professionally styled hair and impeccable makeup. If it is an imitation of an actual person, then it has nail it.

Those who can't make it believable may go to the opposite extreme - an overexaggerated, caricatured performance that does everything possible to scream that it isn't supposed to be believable. It's as if to say "Look at me, I could never hack it as a woman, so I'll get you to laugh with me rather than have you laugh at me."

I see these "nurses" in that light. Everything about them is the antithesis of being a nurse, deliberately. Wearing scrubs and a wig (at least if they shaved the beards) might look like they were going for a realistic representation. The absurd look they went for instead is in a way a form of flattery toward the real thing. It's as if to say, "we could never be who you are and do what you do, so we're not going to insult you by even trying.

[rubato]

“The presentation of men dressed as female nurses in a highly sexualised and demeaning way is wrong,

Did a blind person write that? "highly sexualized" only if Milton Berle gets you excited.





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[rubato]

So a "bed push" is just that - and apparently often includes costumes, pantomime, and other hilarity.

I don't find men in drag sexual at all, but I did note the article says the Trust asked that the nurses costumes bit be halted the prior year, and that request apparently wasn't honored. Seems to me if you're trying to fundraise for an organization you might want to coordinate with that organization, first.

That's what they got for fundraising for a humorless bunch of idiots.


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[Lord Jim]

“The presentation of men dressed as female nurses in a highly sexualised and demeaning way is wrong,

Did a blind person write that? "highly sexualized" only if Milton Berle gets you excited.





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I was always turned-on by Flip Wilson...

[RayThom]

Now, had those comely "nurses" only sported this garb on Halloween all would be acceptable.

And Donald John Trump is still president.

[Lord Jim]

Another one that always gives me the hots:



Obviously a sexualized portrayal that should be offensive to female talk show hosts...

[dales]

[RayThom]

Ah, the Three Stoogettes, they were so good.

"Mona! Laura! The Cheese!" Funny stuff.