Schadenfreude ?

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BSG--
And yet even mainstream and progressive Christians celebrate a God who once annihilated 99.9% of life on Earth because he was wrathful.
and destroyed Sodom and Gamorrah, and killed the first born child of Egyptian families, and destroyed numerous other cities as told in the "my god can kick ass and beat up your god" part of the OT, where the entire purpose of the accounts is to describe the god people wanted then--a kick ass war god; hell, he even did the same parlor tricks (like turning staffs into snakes) as the other gods, but his snakes were stronger. It depends on how factually verbatim one considers the accounts, whether they are historical or allegorical, and the reasons god was portrayed that way. Certainly not all Christians take the account of the great flood literally anymore than they think of god as a brooding volcano (pillar of smoke by day, pillar of fire by night) in the desert as he was described in the account of the exodus.

Jim--you're right, it could be much worse if other predictions had come to pass, but it will pack a hell of a punch in the areas it hits--even a category 1 hurricane can cause a lot of damage. A friend of mine in Savannah just left due to an evacuation order--the first time she has ever done so; I'm glad to hear people are taking this seriously.

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Big RR wrote:even a category 1 hurricane can cause a lot of damage
I was in Raleigh when Hurricane Fran came through in 1996 as a category 1, what was nicknamed the City of Oaks because of its oak-lined streets and boulevards barely had an oak tree left standing afterwards, to say nothing of all of the buildings and power lines upon which those oak trees fell. I remember my Mitch bawling as we drove around the city in which he grew up having become the city of stumps.
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I was there a week later, and I remember the giant wood piles alongside of most of the streets; it was a lot of devastation.

Sandy and Irene took out my power for a week each (and as I recall both were category 1) and the Halloween Frankenstorm (not even a hurricane, but the ice and snow helped there) took it out for 6 days.

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BoSoxGal wrote:Well apparently Irma flattened Trump's Caribbean island mansion. Yay, Irma!

If the bitch has to hit Palm Beach and surrounds full force, I hope she flattens all his other shit, too.
I'm sure it, like Mar-A-Lago, is insured.
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Maybe he cooked up the whole hurricane business to get the insurance money--the government can do these things with the weather...

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Irma bears down on Florida; more than 5M told to flee coast

Irma trained its sights on Florida and officials warned more than 5 million people that time was running out Friday and ordered them to evacuate ahead of the deadly hurricane as it followed a path that could take it from one end of the state to the other.

By late Friday, Irma had regained Category 5 strength with winds of 160 mph (260 kph). Forecasters expect the storm to be near the Florida Keys on Sunday morning and approach the state's southwest coast by that afternoon.

Forecasters adjusted the storm's potential track more toward the west coast of Florida, away from the Miami metropolitan area of 6 million people, meaning "a less costly, a less deadly storm," University of Miami researcher Brian McNoldy said.

Nevertheless, forecasters warned that its hurricane-force winds were so wide they could reach from coast to coast, testing the nation's third-largest state, which has undergone rapid development and more stringent hurricane-proof building codes in the last decade or so.

"This is a storm that will kill you if you don't get out of the way," National Hurricane Center meteorologist Dennis Feltgen said. "Everybody's going to feel this one."

Irma killed at least 20 people in the Caribbean and left thousands homeless as it devastated small resort islands known for their warm, turquoise water.

In Florida, gas shortages and gridlock plagued the evacuations, turning normally simple trips into tests of will. Parts of interstates 75 and 95 north were bumper-to-bumper, while very few cars drove in the southbound lanes.

In one of the country's largest evacuations, about 5.6 million people in Florida — more than one-quarter of the state's population — were ordered to evacuate and another 540,000 were told to leave the Georgia coast. Authorities opened hundreds of shelters for people who did not leave. Hotels as far away as Atlanta filled up with evacuees.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott said people fleeing could drive slowly in the shoulder lane on highways. He hasn't reversed the southbound lanes because he said they were needed to deliver gas and supplies.

"If you are planning to leave and do not leave tonight, you will have to ride out this extremely dangerous storm at your own risk," Scott said.

CoreLogic, a consultant to insurers, estimated that almost 8.5 million Florida homes or commercial properties were at extreme, very high or high risk of wind damage from Irma.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/hurr ... s-49696526

I'm sure Rick Scott doesn't have a whole lot of fans around here, but it looks to me like he has been just about as on top of this as anyone possibly could be. He declared a state-wide state of emergency and began ordering evacuations four days ago and it looks like the efforts to provide everything possible to facilitate evacuations and provide shelters has had really good co-ordination at both the state and local levels. He also seems to be doing a really good job of communicating regularly to the public what's going on, what resources are available, and how to take advantage of them.

All of this is no small feat, when you consider not just the enormity of the storm, but also the shifting target zones.
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All of which is exactly why science should be non-partisan.
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Didn't Rick Scott ban the use of the term 'climate change' from official documents produced by Florida DEP and other state agencies?
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Apparently, despite being a pretty hardcore conservative, Gov. Scott decided that it's better to listen to the National Weather Service than to listen to Rush Limbaugh...
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The 1-5 hurricane category is based solely on wind speed. Interesting graphic from Washington Post comparing actual total energy in various named storms.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... 11a671688b

I was surprised at the contrast between Katrina and Harvey.

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Apologies if I missed this elsewhere in this or another thread.

Apparently Texas churches damaged by Harvey are looking for FEMA (i.e., you and me) to pay for the damage.

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/09/07 ... l-funding/

Of course all those churches think that illegal immigrants are good for business - or is it just the Catholic church? I lose track of this stuff sometimes.

This is the state which brought you all those Jade Helm conspiracy theories. Remember that, when the world was a little less crazy than it is now?

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Lord Jim wrote:Apparently, despite being a pretty hardcore conservative, Gov. Scott decided that it's better to listen to the National Weather Service than to listen to Rush Limbaugh...
Even Rush Limbaugh eventually decided that it's better to listen to the National Weather Service than to listen to Rush Limbaugh.
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