Ethically challenged?
Re: Ethically challenged?
The company DID challenge it...he got paid anyway.
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Re: Ethically challenged?
To clarify, I assumed incorrectly that you were referring to HR rubber stamping a UI claim, not the UI caseworker. Caseworkers likely do rubber stamp to a great degree, as they are mindless and aren’t in a position to question the case - when an employer challenges a claim, the dispute goes to a different department and is handled there and via administrative hearing, if the parties take it that far.
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Re: Ethically challenged?
The guy at the damn hearing ALSO rubber-stamped it.
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Re: Ethically challenged?
Ethics, we don't need no stinkin' ethics.
A while back I was asked to pee in a cup pursuant to keeping my CDL active. The guy administering the drug test presented me with a form which asked for my Social Security Number, along with my date of birth and of course my name.
With those three pieces of information he, or anyone at his little local company, could become "me". I refused to give him my SSN. He said I could be fired for refusing to take the drug test. I told him I was not refusing the test. Said I'd pee in his cup clear across his desk if he liked. He called my boss who agreed with me. The boss said I could use my employee number. I did go to the restroom to complete the test.
The way I understand it, if someone isn't going to contribute to your FICA wages, IRA, or bank interest, they have no right or reason to have your SSN.
A while back I was asked to pee in a cup pursuant to keeping my CDL active. The guy administering the drug test presented me with a form which asked for my Social Security Number, along with my date of birth and of course my name.
With those three pieces of information he, or anyone at his little local company, could become "me". I refused to give him my SSN. He said I could be fired for refusing to take the drug test. I told him I was not refusing the test. Said I'd pee in his cup clear across his desk if he liked. He called my boss who agreed with me. The boss said I could use my employee number. I did go to the restroom to complete the test.
The way I understand it, if someone isn't going to contribute to your FICA wages, IRA, or bank interest, they have no right or reason to have your SSN.
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Re: Ethically challenged?
Not anymore. (Offhand, the DMV requires it now.)
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Your SSN is also required to receive any government benefit. Eventually, your SSN will be injected into your ass cheek at birth and all agencies that require your SSN will use a chip scanner on you.
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The upside of that would be a reduction in identity theft - especially if they tied SS #s to iris scan or some other such technology.Joe Guy wrote:Your SSN is also required to receive any government benefit. Eventually, your SSN will be injected into your ass cheek at birth and all agencies that require your SSN will use a chip scanner on you.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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Joe Guy wrote:Your SSN is also required to receive any government benefit. Eventually, your SSN will be injected into your ass cheek at birth and all agencies that require your SSN will use a chip scanner on you.
That's not far off
When my kids were born, they were Assigned a SSN.
I didn't get a SSN until I started work at 15.
Coming next 666.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
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Ethically Challenged?
Re. SSN. When my aunt Mary died in 1958 she left my brothers and sister some money. My parents insisted that we open personal passbook savings accounts. In order of age -- youngest to oldest -- the numbers are xxx-xx-9918,9919,9920,9921. Siblings will never get that kind of sequential order again unless it's due to multiple birth.

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Re: Ethically challenged?
My DMV used SSNs for driver's license numbers for short time too, until it was pointed out that an SSN was useful for identity theft, and not legal to ask for. I think they used SSN's for about two months. Now they issue completely different numbers that are three digits-two digits-four digits, like an SSN. Medicaid will be issuing new cards with a different number after the first of the year too.Jarlaxle wrote:Not anymore. (Offhand, the DMV requires it now.)
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Re: Ethically challenged?
In Montana your SSN is integrated into your DL#, which contains another half dozen numbers so only the license holder and LEOs know which ones make up her SSN.
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Re: Ethically challenged?
Ever heard of Hip-ah? It is an appreciation for federal laws about medical records and privacy there of. I think the letters are HIPAAI. Workers in various medical/health professions have declared it to be a big pain in the ass, but medical privacy is worth it. A friend that works in the prescription section of a local drugstore tells me this privacy thing is now totally trashed. Because of the front-page issue of Opioid overdose.
Now there is a database that legal pill pushers of any capacity are supposed to check to be sure an individual is not shopping for script doe pills above the prudent guidelines. With a name and a birthdate, if you can get access to the data base, you can get the complete medical history of anyone. If you think that database is secure, the line forms to the right to purchase the Brooklyn Bridge.
Yes, SSN has legal limits on its use But there is another number, called 'taxpayer id" that has wider legal uses and just happens to be the same as your SSN. My medicare number is my SSN with a single letter added.
Privacy? Cybersecurity? You better be very pro-active.
snailgate.
Now there is a database that legal pill pushers of any capacity are supposed to check to be sure an individual is not shopping for script doe pills above the prudent guidelines. With a name and a birthdate, if you can get access to the data base, you can get the complete medical history of anyone. If you think that database is secure, the line forms to the right to purchase the Brooklyn Bridge.
Yes, SSN has legal limits on its use But there is another number, called 'taxpayer id" that has wider legal uses and just happens to be the same as your SSN. My medicare number is my SSN with a single letter added.
Privacy? Cybersecurity? You better be very pro-active.
snailgate.
Re: Ethically challenged?
It isn't the license number, but I could not get or renew a license without my social security number. (I assume it is part of the Real ID Act.)MGMcAnick wrote:My DMV used SSNs for driver's license numbers for short time too, until it was pointed out that an SSN was useful for identity theft, and not legal to ask for. I think they used SSN's for about two months. Now they issue completely different numbers that are three digits-two digits-four digits, like an SSN. Medicaid will be issuing new cards with a different number after the first of the year too.Jarlaxle wrote:Not anymore. (Offhand, the DMV requires it now.)
Treat Gaza like Carthage.
Re: Ethically challenged?
Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 - HIPAA
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
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See BP’s post just above.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan