If You are a Fan of Orange is The New Black
Re: If You are a Fan of Orange is The New Black
You got me binge watching this now; I hadn't seen the first season or so. 10 episodes down, 682 to go.
"The dildo of consequence rarely comes lubed." -- Eileen Rose
Re: If You are a Fan of Orange is The New Black
Orange is the new black is very good but a little ragged. The character "Piper" is one of the least interesting but many of the others are outstanding. Interesting portrayal of how people get and use power over each other from the subtle emotional machinations of "V" when she manipulates Susan and "Tasty" to be her minions to the more direct and brutal methods of fear, threat of violence, bribery and transactional exchanges.
Very interesting, not very erotic.
yrs,
rubato
Very interesting, not very erotic.
yrs,
rubato
Re: If You are a Fan of Orange is The New Black
The latest season (4) is the weakest. It looks like they're turning it into more comedy than drama. When it won an Emmy for comedy I didn't understand how it could be seen as one. Now the comedy is very obvious.
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It was always "dramady" haven't watched the last season yet.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Except for the last episode, ugh!rubato wrote: Very interesting, not very erotic.
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So I finally got around to this, binge watched up to the first few episodes of season three in the past few days (I've been keeping my calendar as clear as possible this month in anticipation of surgery, and am getting a bit stir crazy, so give me a break), and while I have been enjoying the story lines, I'm not finding that it lives up to all the hype.
For all the talk about the approach to sexuality as innovative and daring and more fluid, 85% of it is gratuitous lesbo porn clearly aimed at attracting a 20- or 30-something male demographic. Perhaps two characters can be seen as acting (if not also feeling) somewhat bisexually; evenyone else is depicted as a hard Kinsey zero or six.
There is not a single male character who appears more than fleetingly that isn't a complete dick. (And for the record, any prison guard who has sex with an inmate, or masturbates after speaking to an inmate, or makes lewd jokes about or in the presence of inmates, is a complete dick.) Even when one shows some flash of potential redemption, he re-descends into dickishness in the blink of an eye.
It is so obvious that their use of flashback is a ripoff from Oz, which used it sparingly and effectively. Here there is way too fucking much of it, and almost none of it advances plot or characterization even a little bit.
We are hit over the head with character after character getting pulled back into toxic relationships over and over again. How about, gee I don't know, showing a broader range of how people end up committing crimes and other bad behaviour?
I will say that I found how they chose to resolve the story line surrounding Lorraine Toussaint's character particularly satisfying.but only because her character, like a few others, was so unequivocally evil that she would have been more at home in a spaghetti western.
I will probably continue watching it, because it's still better than a lot of crap being shown on TV, but even among the small genre of prison dramas, or the even smaller subset of women's prison dramas, it doesn't rank among my favourites.
For all the talk about the approach to sexuality as innovative and daring and more fluid, 85% of it is gratuitous lesbo porn clearly aimed at attracting a 20- or 30-something male demographic. Perhaps two characters can be seen as acting (if not also feeling) somewhat bisexually; evenyone else is depicted as a hard Kinsey zero or six.
There is not a single male character who appears more than fleetingly that isn't a complete dick. (And for the record, any prison guard who has sex with an inmate, or masturbates after speaking to an inmate, or makes lewd jokes about or in the presence of inmates, is a complete dick.) Even when one shows some flash of potential redemption, he re-descends into dickishness in the blink of an eye.
It is so obvious that their use of flashback is a ripoff from Oz, which used it sparingly and effectively. Here there is way too fucking much of it, and almost none of it advances plot or characterization even a little bit.
We are hit over the head with character after character getting pulled back into toxic relationships over and over again. How about, gee I don't know, showing a broader range of how people end up committing crimes and other bad behaviour?
I will say that I found how they chose to resolve the story line surrounding Lorraine Toussaint's character particularly satisfying.but only because her character, like a few others, was so unequivocally evil that she would have been more at home in a spaghetti western.
I will probably continue watching it, because it's still better than a lot of crap being shown on TV, but even among the small genre of prison dramas, or the even smaller subset of women's prison dramas, it doesn't rank among my favourites.
"The dildo of consequence rarely comes lubed." -- Eileen Rose
Re: If You are a Fan of Orange is The New Black
Let me know if you make it through season 4.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Oh yeah, and that atonal cacophony that passes for an opening theme needs to go.
"The dildo of consequence rarely comes lubed." -- Eileen Rose
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I watched a few episodes and wasn’t sold; life is getting shorter every day and there are a lot of great darkly comic Slavic crime dramas to watch.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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Just binged Season 6, and it may be the best one yet. Focused on the more interesting characters, and downplayed the lead (Piper) who is fairly boring in a world of interesting personalities.
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I have yet to get through the last 4(?) episodes of season 5. It was just getting to painful to watch
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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It's trash* so I didn't even start.
*No need to watch to find out; I just rely on descriptions given by you good folks
*No need to watch to find out; I just rely on descriptions given by you good folks
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
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Meade just likes civil war prison shows and then only if there are no gay soldier characters.
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If "Orange is the new black" does that mean that Trump is actually black? 
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Let's not go there, shall we?Lord Jim wrote:If "Orange is the new black" does that mean that Trump is actually black?
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Yes, I suppose I could agree with you ... but then we'd both be wrong, wouldn't we?
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We heard you the first timeMajGenl.Meade wrote:It's trash* so I didn't even start.
MajGenl.Meade wrote:Crap
Re: If You are a Fan of Orange is The New Black
No. I think Trump just drank too much of this stuff...Lord Jim wrote:If "Orange is the new black" does that mean that Trump is actually black?
