"Mass Casualty" High School Shooting In Florida...

[Scooter]

[BoSoxGal]

The teen survivors of this horrible mass shooting give me much hope for the future! I've heard many of them speak on the TV and have been very impressed with their common sense. So much for trashing 'kids these days'!

[Lord Jim]

Another one for the "Just when you thought the POS-In-Chief couldn't go an lower" list...

Trump blames screw-up in the FBI Miami Field Office regarding the tip received about the shooter in the school massacre on the Russiagate investigation:

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
5h5 hours ago

Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!

I knew that Trump would be unscrupulous enough to use the local FBI dropping the ball in this tragedy as an opportunity to further bash and try to discredit it, but it did not occur to me that even he would be cynical and vile enough to try to make a direct link between that mistake and the Russiagate investigation...

Obviously the one has absolutely nothing to do with the other, but according to Donald Trump 17 people were shot dead at a high school in Florida because he's being investigated for connections to Russia...

[Burning Petard]

Never mind the far greater number of tips received and investigated by local agencies with superior local knowledge and designated specific responsibilities. who did not find a mandate do anything that prevented the carnage.

snailgate

[Crackpot]

Well my trump loving gun toting cousin has definitely even triggered by all this.

[Scooter]

Never mind the far greater number of tips received and investigated by local agencies with superior local knowledge and designated specific responsibilities. who did not find a mandate do anything that prevented the carnage.

Fair enough, but does anyone seriously believe the FBI would have let a report like that slip through the cracks if the guy had a Muslim-sounding name?

[RayThom]

The teen survivors of this horrible mass shooting give me much hope for the future! I've heard many of them speak on the TV and have been very impressed with their common sense. So much for trashing 'kids these days'!

There's a march on Washington, D.C. being planed for Wednesday, March 24th. (#MarchForOurLives)

I told my local Chester County Democratic Committee to make sure those surviving students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School who are speaking out so boldly and loudly against Trump and the NRA are there to address the crowd. They will prove to be the "responsible adults" who will become the catalyst for leading the way in the upcoming days and weeks. These young citizens are no longer accepting to be pawns in the game. I told them to rename it "#AndTheChildrenShallLead" march.

[Big RR]

Never mind the far greater number of tips received and investigated by local agencies with superior local knowledge and designated specific responsibilities. who did not find a mandate do anything that prevented the carnage.

Fair enough, but does anyone seriously believe the FBI would have let a report like that slip through the cracks if the guy had a Muslim-sounding name?

Ordinarily no, but then they're sop busy trying to frame the innocent babe Trump...

[Burning Petard]

Any body tell me how potential school shootings, by US born children of US born parents, the potential shooter with no legal barrier local, or federal, to long gun purchase, who makes no threats against federal officials and has no ties to domestic or foreign terrorist organizations, is something the FBI should investigate?

The FBI is not a legislative body. It works with the Federal Code as our congress critters form it. As I see it the school shootings in Florida last week broke no federal law.

Is the national government to fix everything?

snailgate

[Big RR]

BP--I imagine there are two places the FBI could become involved: the first is because they have received tips or information which they should have the authority to investigate; the second is if the local authorities invite them in because of their superior investigative methodologies (and I'd bet that is what happened here). This is not unheard of--as I recall the FBI was the repository of fingerprints (it may still be) and they screened prints from local authorities even if the crimes were local. Bringing the FBI into high profile cases of national interest, even if federal laws are not broken, makes a lot of sense if the local authorities want the aid.

[Burning Petard]

Big RR, I am not asking about FBI involvement now. I am considering the criticism that the FBI should have done something to prevent the shooting before it happened. The federal congress critters seem to believe it is very important to protect the safety of the un-born, while those who manage to achieve the age of 18 must have their right to be equipped to kill others without any influence from a can of beer constitutionally protected, including their constitutional right to privacy also protected so background checks for gun purchase will not include medical or other mental health information outside of court proceedings.

snailgate

[Big RR]

Perhaps, but I would think that any government entity that receives a warning about some sort of crime which will take place in the future has an obligation to at least report it to the local authorities, if not to take some action to prevent it.

Of course, as you point out, that common sense does not apply to our elected representatives.

[Scooter]

[Bicycle Bill]

I am considering the criticism that the FBI should have done something to prevent the shooting before it happened.

snailgate

There are some people out there who won't be happy until half of the population is busy keeping an eye on the other half ....
.... but then, who will be watching the watchers?

-"BB"-

[Scooter]

A friend of mine posted this on Facebook:

Wait. Stop the presses. This just occurred to me. Where did the Fort Hood massacre take place? Lemme see....Was it in an ice skating arena? Bunch of kids playing soccer out on a soccer field? No. No. That's not it. Hummm. The local mall? Is that where it took place? No? Now where was it. Oh that's right...on a fucking military base!!!!!!!! Where he was surrounded by how many thousands of highly trained, heavily armed troops, yet he still managed to slaughter 12 and injure dozens more. So much for the argument from the freakish whack jobs who think arming teachers is the answer. The world's largest fucking Army base with close to 50,000 troops and personnel couldn't stop someone but Suzie May in her first year of teaching kindergarten will be their hero. Laughing my ass off......big time.

[Joe Guy]

If I recall correctly, none of the victims were armed.

[Bicycle Bill]

As was to be expected, even before the victims of this latest massacre have been buried, people — including the POTUS himself — are in full-blown deflection, obfuscation, and 'smoke-screen' mode, claiming the whole thing is not a gun control issue but rather a mental illness problem.



-"BB"-

[Econoline]

It's also strange how mental illness affects both sexes, but mass shooters are pretty much always male.

[Crackpot]

Generally speaking unless you are military police you are not allowed to walk around armed on base.

[Scooter]

Which makes it all the more bizarre to suggest arming teachers in the classroom. If for whatever reason trained soldiers are not allowed to be armed around other trained soldiers, how does it make sense to suggest that civilian teachers be armed when around children?