Children's concentration camps - welcome to Trump's America

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:18 pm

liberty wrote:Trump could fix this problem by providing illegal immigrants safe passage and transportation to the Canadian Border.

We have seen thousands of people seeking refuge from Trump's AmeriKKKa pouring over our border in the past year and a half, and will gladly take thousands more. Anyone who is not not welcome in Trump's AmeriKKKa is sure to be a productive member of society whom any country would be lucky to have.

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:41 pm

Trump could fix this problem by providing illegal immigrants safe passage and transportation to the Canadian Border.

Actually I was going to suggest that we ship them to Russia...

The Russian population has been declining, so they could certainly use an influx of immigrants, and since the average life expectancy for Mexicans is about six years longer than for Russians, they would represent an infusion of healthier people into the population...

Plus they would be able to grow up in a strong country like Russia, rather than pitiful, weak America...

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:01 pm

Econoline · Post by **Econoline** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:41 pm

From Wonkette:

How can people be THIS BAD at their jobs?!?!? Did the State Department's social media team really schedule a live discussion of "traveling with kids" while the media is showing babies snatched at the border and imprisoned in cages?

Are you traveling with kids this year? Have questions about getting their passports, and want tips to make travel easier? Join us for this Facebook Live with Carl and Kim from Passport Services. They'll share lots of tips with you to make traveling with the whole family easier. Ask us your questions in the comments discussion section of this event or in the comments of the live video, and we'll do our best to answer them!

Follow the link to Wonkette for more of the story, including some actual "questions in the comments discussion section of this event" like this:

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:01 pm

Goodbye mudda...

Goodbye fadda...

Laura Ingraham Compares Child Immigrant Detention Centers To Summer Camps

Fox News host Laura Ingraham criticized the backlash against the Trump administration for separating immigrant families at the border as part of its “zero tolerance” policy, comparing the detention centers, where children can be seen being kept inside chain-link cages and heard wailing for their parents, to summer camp.

“More kids are being separated from their parents and temporarily housed in what are essentially summer camps, or as The San Diego Union Tribune described them today, as basically looking like boarding schools,” Ingraham said Monday. “The American people are footing a really big bill for what is tantamount to a slow-rolling invasion of the United States.”

The newspaper reported that the Casa San Diego facility for immigrant children has “classrooms, a play area with soccer goals and a medical clinic with superheroes like Wonder Woman, Superman and the Hulk on the walls.”

Ingraham failed to mention the added context that the Tribune article included, which said that upon closer inspection, the facility contains aspects that resemble a prison.

“It’s surrounded by fencing that is backed by privacy netting, and a sign at the gate warns visitors that it’s under video surveillance 24 hours per day. If someone opens the front door of the facility without first swiping a badge, an alarm blares through the hallway, warning of a potential escape.”
Ingraham attempted to clarify her comments at the end of her Monday show, noting that she has spent time in Central America given that she adopted one of her children from Guatemala.

“Apparently there are a lot of people very upset because we referred to some of the detention facilities tonight as essentially like summer camps,” she said. “The San Diego Union Tribune today described the facilities as essentially like what you would expect at a boarding school. So I will stick to there are some of them like boarding schools. And I suggest that a lot of the folks who are worried about that spend more time in Central America. I have.”

While Trump administration officials scramble to defend the policy, which seeks to prosecute more people who cross into the U.S. illegally even if it means separating children from their parents, the voices of opposition continue to grow louder.

A chorus of prominent Republicans, including former First Lady Laura Bush, First Lady Melania Trump, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and many more members of Congress, have made their dissent heard, even if they can’t seem to agree on a path forward.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/la ... b9e9a4840c

Crackpot · Post by **Crackpot** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:11 pm

Am I the only one that believes that being Tarred and feathered is a suitable punishment for anyone who publicly condones this crime?

Econoline · Post by **Econoline** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:34 am

Econoline · Post by **Econoline** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:47 am

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:26 am

Crackpot wrote:Am I the only one that believes that being Tarred and feathered is a suitable punishment for anyone who publicly condones this crime?

Here's a good candidate:

Ann Coulter calls immigrant children 'child actors'

Conservative commentator Ann Coulter called children crying at the border after being separated from parents “child actors” during an appearance Sunday on Fox News.

Coulter also said President Trump should not fall for the "child actors" as he faces pressure to end his zero-tolerance policy at the border, which has resulted in parents being separated from their children so that they face immediate deportation.

“I would also say one other thing, these child actors weeping and crying on all the other networks 24/7 right now — do not fall for it, Mr. President," Coulter said on “The Next Revolution with Steve Hilton.”

"I get very nervous about the president getting his news from TV,” she added.

Coulter referenced a story in The New Yorker in arguing that children filmed at the border are acting, saying it had described the children as being coached.

“A New Yorker article, The New Yorker is not a conservative publication, they describe how these kids, these kids are being coached," she said. "They’re given scripts to read by liberals, according to The New Yorker. Don’t fall for the actor children.”

It’s unclear what New Yorker article Coulter was referring to.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/39277 ... ild-actors

BoSoxGal · Post by **BoSoxGal** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:21 am

Steve Schmidt just renounced his membership in the GOP and is advocating for a Democratic takeover of Congress.

http://madison365.com/top-gop-operative ... with-dems/

29 years and nine months ago I registered to vote and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump.
2:41 AM - Jun 20, 2018

It is corrupt, indecent and immoral. With the exception of a few Governors like Baker, Hogan and Kasich it is filled with feckless cowards who disgrace and dishonor the legacies of the party’s greatest leaders. This child separation policy is connected to the worst abuses of

Humanity in our history. It is connected by the same evil that separated families during slavery and dislocated tribes and broke up Native American families. It is immoral and must be repudiated. Our country is in trouble. Our politics are badly broken. The first step to a

Season of renewal in our land is the absolute and utter repudiation of Trump and his vile enablers in the 2018 election by electing Democratic majorities. I do not say this as an advocate of a progressive agenda. I say it as someone who retains belief in DEMOCRACY and decency.

On Ronald Reagan’s grave are these words. “ I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.” He would be ashamed of McConnell and Ryan and all the rest while this corrupt government

Establishes internment camps for babies. Everyone of these complicit leaders will carry this shame through history. There legacies will be ones of well earned ignominy. They have disgraced their country and brought dishonor to the Party of Lincoln.

I have spent much of my life working in GOP politics. I have always believed that both parties were two of the most important institutions to the advancement of human freedom and dignity in the history of the world. Today the GOP has become a danger to our democracy and values.

This Independent voter will be aligned with the only party left in America that stands for what is right and decent and remains fidelitous to our Republic, objective truth, the rule of law and our Allies. That party is the Democratic Party.

For those of you who don’t follow politics closely, Schmidt is a big player - he worked for both the Bush and McCain campaigns, among other endeavors, and is often called on by the media for punditry.

I’ve been crying a lot lately and can hardly stand to watch the news - it was heartening to hear this news when I chanced on turning on Morning Joe today, after a totally sleepless night.

When I was very young, around 5 or 6, I experienced the most terrifying event of my life when I was briefly separated from my grandmother and entirely alone and unaware of my surroundings, absent any sense of security and any comforting presence to soothe me. I can’t overstate the terror and profound grief I felt in the short period of time before my grandmother returned to me and all was made better; suffice to say that the brief horror was so psychologically devastating that the memory has never, ever left me and when I think of it my throat and stomach clench and I can hardly breathe, 40+ years later.

This is what we are doing to these poor babies, to a much magnified degree than what I experienced - and they will never, ever recover from it.

We are truly lost.

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:38 pm

I have a lot of regard for Steve, he's been one of a group of Republicans on the cable news circuit, (like Ana Navarro, Mike Murphy, Nicole Wallace, Bill Kristol, SE Cupp, Michael Steele and a few others) who have provided me with a much needed morale boost as an anti-Trump Republican...

I frequently have found myself in complete agreement with the points Steve has made, and I certainly share his disgust with the GOP Congressional leadership, and I agree with his call for the repudiation of Trump and the Vichy Republicans in the midterm elections...

I'm sorry to see him formally leave the party though I fully understand, sympathize with, and respect his decision. He joins a growing list of life long Republicans I respect who have done so (like George Will and Joe Scarborough and a number of personal friends of mine.)

It's something I wrestle with myself frequently, as the misdeeds of Trump and the wide-spread failure of the feckless GOP leadership to stand up to him piles higher and higher (this latest child separation policy disgrace being the just the most recent example.)

What has thus far prevented me from leaving the party has been a deeply rooted innate stubbornness which finds the idea of abandoning the party I have been a part of for 40 years to Trump, the Trumpanzees, and the collaborationists utterly repugnant...

I'm not going to say it will never happen, (if you had asked me just three years ago if I would ever vote for Hillary Clinton, or support a Democratic take-over of Congress, I would have happily told you that neither of those things would ever happen...

) but for now, (especially with no even semi-viable third option in the offing) I prefer to stand and fight...

RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:18 pm

This just in: Lord Dampnut will be "signing something." What a guy.

President Trump will be 'signing something' on immigration
http://abc7news.com/politics/homeland-s ... r/3626251/

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:09 pm

The dirtbag blinks and changes policy which until now he claimed "only Democrats could fix."

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:37 pm

How big an asshole move was this child separation policy?

It was so big an asshole move that not even an asshole as big as Michael Cohen could support it:

Former Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen Attacks Immigrant Children Separation Policy in RNC Resignation Letter

Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump’s former personal attorney, criticized the Trump administration’s policy that separated families entering the country illegally in a resignation letter for his position as deputy finance chair at the Republican National Committee.

“As the son of a Polish Holocaust survivor, the images and sounds of this family separation policy is heart-wrenching,” he wrote in an email to RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel, which was obtained by ABC News. “While I strongly support measures that will secure our porous borders, children should never be used as bargaining chips.”

Cohen’s attack on a Trump administration policy is notable because of the loyalty he has shown to Trump throughout a variety of legal complications. “I’m the guy who protects the president and the family. I’m the guy who would take a bullet for the president," Cohen told Vanity Fair in September.

“If somebody does something Mr. Trump doesn’t like, I do everything in my power to resolve it to Mr. Trump’s benefit,” Cohen had told ABC News in 2011. “If you do something wrong, I’m going to come at you, grab you by the neck and I’m not going to let you go until I’m finished.

Econoline · Post by **Econoline** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:17 am

ICE Director: ICE Can't Be Compared To Nazis Since We're Just Following Orders

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:22 am

Speaking of busted irony meters:

Pompeo Hails World Refugee Day as Refugee Admissions Plummet

As domestic and international criticism of the Trump administration’s border policies intensifies, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo commemorated World Refugee Day, vowing in a statement to “continue to help the world’s most vulnerable refugees, reflecting the deeply held values of the American people.”

Pompeo touted the U.S. record of financing humanitarian assistance to “crisis-affected people worldwide, including refugees,” and honored the “strength, courage, and resilience of millions of refugees worldwide who have been forced to flee their homes due to persecution and conflict.”

Yet amid a global migration crisis, Oxfam noted Tuesday that U.S. refugee admissions are “at the lowest level in U.S. history” and harshly criticized the Trump administration’s choice to run the State Department’s migration bureau as an “anti-immigration extremist.”

While Pompeo praised the U.S. for its “steadfast commitment to getting life-saving support to Syrians,” the U.S. has resettled only 13 Syrian refugees so far this year, a 99 percent drop from 2017. Under the administration’s “zero-tolerance” policy, it is separating babies, toddlers, and children from their migrant parents with scant information available for reuniting families.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pompeo-ha ... ns-plummet

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:56 am

The dirtbag blinks and changes policy which until now he claimed "only Democrats could fix."

Blinking is exactly the way to describe it...

The POS-In-Chief tried to use taking children away from their parents to force the Dems in Congress to support not just funding for his wall, (which they already agreed to in a deal to restore DACA that he scuttled a few months ago) but a whole slew of new legal immigration restrictions, and it blew up in his face and the faces of Congressional Republicans facing re-election.

Polls taken over the past few days showed the policy facing disapproval by an average of 25% approve, 64% disapprove:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/se ... unpopular/

And as images and audio recordings of these kids continued to drip out, these numbers would have gotten nothing but worse...

And it was becoming increasingly apparent that the ridiculous argument that the policy was all the fault a some law passed by the Democrats wasn't being bought by anyone except the most hardcore kool aid guzzlers among the Trumpanzees...

So with his cruel, cynical gambit flopping and the mid-term elections looming, Il Boobce had no choice but to back down...

But of course in typical Trump style, when forced to back down he does so in the most cruel and mean-spirited way possible; apparently there is no plan for returning the kids already seized to their parents:

President Donald Trump, facing fierce and widespread outrage, signed an executive order to end the large-scale practice of splitting up families at the US-Mexico border.

The administration will still pursue its “zero tolerance” crackdown and prosecute undocumented migrants for illegal border crossing, but it will now attempt to detain families together — and it looks to do so indefinitely.

The order doesn’t provide relief for the approximately 2,300 kids who have already been separated from their families since the administration’s policy was announced in early May. Those children will remain separated from their parents as they remain in federal custody and won’t immediately be reunited, according to a report in the New York Times.

“There will not be a grandfathering of existing cases,” Kenneth Wolfe, a spokesperson for the Administration for Children and Families, a division of the Department of Health and Human Services, told the New York Times.

“I can tell you definitively that is going to be policy,” Wolfe said.

Later, another spokesman for HHS, backtracked somewhat on the earlier statement, saying “it is still very early and we are awaiting further guidance on the matter.”

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... -easy.html

I predict that ultimately Trump will be compelled to back down on this capricious cruelty as well, because so long as these kids continue to be held like this the media will (rightly) continue to focus on them, and he and the GOP will continued to get hammered with it...

But it hasn't been all a loss for El Disgusto, because he's once again had an opportunity to show the white nationalist racist faction of his base that he's with them, and trying to fight "the good fight"...

RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:02 pm

But wait... that's not all!

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-s ... 2018-06-21

The Kingdom is crumbling.

MG McAnick · Post by **MG McAnick** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:15 pm

RayThom wrote:The Kingdom is crumbling.

We can only hope.

Burning Petard · Post by **Burning Petard** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:38 pm

What a day. The first lady tours the internment facilities, after she carefully removed the jacket that said in big letters on the back--I really don't care, do u?

Then POTUS decides that the most powerful military in the world, where the focus is on killing people and blowing things up, is imminently qualified to be babysitters.

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