Children's concentration camps - welcome to Trump's America

[Scooter]

He came to the Yukon during the goldrush and opened a whorehouse using money he made from selling the valuables of those who died en route. Nuff said.

[Crackpot]

He should be the poster child for a he policy really.

[Scooter]

[Scooter]

14-Month-Old Migrant Baby Returned To Mother Covered In Lice May Not Have Been Bathed For 85 Days

If separating migrant children from their parents wasn’t cruel enough, another report of inhumane treatment is emerging after a fourteen month old baby was returned to his mother covered in dirt and infested with lice.

Olivia Caceras, the baby’s mother, said that, in addition to the boy’s unsanitary conditions, he’s displaying signs of trauma, insisting that he’s “is not the same since we were reunited. He does not separate from me. He cries when he does not see me … he cries for fear of being alone.” Her testament is one of several in a new lawsuit calling for all children to be reunited with their parents.
The Trump administration’s practice, which President Trump recently walked back with an executive order, has spurred outrage and protests across the nation, as well as a constant stream of admonishment on Twitter.

Nearly all of them are calling for the practice to end.

With thousands of children separated from their parents, reunification will be a long and arduous process. We only hope that the trauma these children have endured will be minimal, but in light of these reports, that seems unlikely.

[Scooter]

[Scooter]

[Guinevere]

Thank you for continuing to post about this Scooter. The world watched breathlessly while 12 children went through a dangerous complex rescue, but “the greatest nation on earth” can’t reunite 100 babies with the parents they were ripped away from — because the government has no clue where those kids are and doesn’t really care.

I no longer recognize who this nation is, nor do I understand why those of us who do actually care about this are constantly vilified by the likes of wes, liberty, and the rest of the trumpanzees who remain devoted to the so- called president. But I won’t quit. I’m not giving up. We will take back our country.

[wesw]

I ve never been devoted to a politician in my life.

such devotion is apparently unwise.

politicians are vehicles, nothing more, to me.

some are bitchin' 442 oldsmobiles, like trump, dangerous but effective at quickly getting you where you want to go, and some are corvairs, like Hillary, unsafe at any speed.

the only person here that I have vilified is scooter, and actually I just point it out. he he vilifies himself.

I believe that our constitution set us all free..., eventually.

I believe in the bill of rights.

I believe in a gov t of, for, and by the people.

so shoot me, if you must.

I don t care.

I believe that the above things are worth dying for. live free or die, right?

I understand that trump s policies will likely make my life more difficult, supporting him already has.

I believe that if Hillary had gotten elected, and the supreme court had been loaded with her picks, we would have lost our founding ideals, our constitution, our liberty.

I despise Big Brother, our founders despised Big Brother.

we don t need our Betters to govern us.

we shouldn t have to hide our thoughts and beliefs.

we should not be shamed for coming to jesus, or laughing at a joke, or telling a joke.

...or for voting.

"elections have consequences" right?

don t give up. vote. push your cause and ideas, but don t harass others.

your rights begin where mine end. I m sure that you were taught that too.

I have freedom of association too. I have a right to attend a trump rally, even in CA, and not be spit on. you don t have a right to harass others.

going restaurants and to peoples homes, your fellow citizens, your public servants, and harassing them is wrong.

you can make fun of them, you can belittle them, but you can t get in their personal space and berate them, you can t impede them.

if you do this you are disturbing the peace.

you are promoting mob rule.

that is not what democracy looks like.

but you don t need a law lesson from me.

I ve said too much already, but only because I care.

wes

[Scooter]

[Guinevere]

I rest my case.

Respectfully submitted,
Guinevere, Esq.

[Scooter]

Be prepared for the huge surge in HIV incidence and mortality that will be another price to pay for this fiasco:

Trump drains HIV/AIDS funding to pay for child migrant detention

The Trump administration is reportedly draining money from HIV treatment programmes in order to fund child migrant detention.

Slate reports that budget documents show funding has been reallocated within the Department of Health and Human Services from the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program to pay for the Trump administration’s aggressive stance on child migrants, which may require thousands of people to be detained.

According to documents leaked to the outlet, funding is already being drained from the primary government programme for HIV/AIDS care in the US to fund the surge in detention work undertaken by the Office of Refugee Resettlement.

Slate alleges that “the process of transferring those HIV/AIDS funds has already begun”, while the department is set to seek further appropriations from Congress.

David Stacy, the Human Rights Campaign’s Director of Government Affairs, told pinkNews: “This administration’s cruelty toward undocumented children and families has been unconscionable.

“Now, we learn they are considering diverting funds from programs to provide health care for people living with HIV and medical support for refugees in order to pay for this president’s heartless obsession with imprisoning kids.

“The Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program is one of our nation’s premier public health efforts, and it is unthinkable that this administration would divert funds away from HIV treatment to fund its cruel attacks on kids and families at the border.”

It has long been in the crosshairs of Vice President Mike Pence, who famously once pledged to drain funding from the programme in order to fund state-sponsored ‘gay cure’ therapy.

On a 2000 Congressional campaign website, Pence wrote: “Congress should support the reauthorization of the Ryan White Care Act only after completion of an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to organisations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviours that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus.

“Resources should be directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behaviour.”

HIV/AIDS policy has suffered significantly under the Trump administration, with the President shuttering the White House Office of National AIDS Policy and dismissing all the members of the President’s Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS.

Trump – who once joked about coercively giving an HIV test to Princess Diana – has faced criticism from all sides for his approach on the issue.

Former President George W Bush previously issued a public warning to Trump over proposals to budget for the US government’s international HIV/AIDS programme, the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR).

Former President Bush, who is often praised for setting up PEPFAR despite his broadly regressive stances on LGBT issues, penned an op-ed for the Washington Post warning against any cuts.

He wrote: “My administration launched PEPFAR in 2003 to address the HIV/AIDS pandemic that threatened to wipe out an entire generation on the continent of Africa. Nearly 15 years later, the program has achieved remarkable results in the fight against

“Nearly 15 years later, the program has achieved remarkable results in the fight against disease. Today, because of the commitment of many foreign governments, investments by partners, the resilience of the African people and the generosity of the American people, nearly 12 million lives have been saved.”

He added: “As the executive and legislative branches review the federal budget, they will have vigorous debates about how best to spend taxpayers’ money — and they should.

“Some will argue that we have enough problems at home and shouldn’t spend money overseas. I argue that we shouldn’t spend money on programs that don’t work, whether at home or abroad.

“But they should fully fund programs that have proven to be efficient, effective and results-oriented.

“Saving nearly 12 million lives is proof that PEPFAR works, and I urge our government to fully fund it. We are on the verge of an AIDS-free generation, but the people of Africa still need our help.

Though diplomatically worded, the former Republican leader’s statement serves as a coded warning to Trump – and will be a rallying cry for moderates in Congress on the issue.

President Obama also previously warned about the importance of maintaining funding for HIV/AIDS projects.

The former President said: “We need to do more to reach those who are at risk for contracting HIV/AIDS, and the United States is helping shape the world’s response to this crisis and working alongside the international community to end this epidemic by 2030.

“We have strengthened and expanded the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), with now more than $70 billion invested, to accelerate our progress and work to control this epidemic with comprehensive and data-focused efforts.

“With PEPFAR support for more than 11 million people on life-saving treatment and through contributions to the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria — including a new pledge of more than $4 billion through 2019 — there are now more than 18 million people getting HIV treatment and care.

“Because in sub-Saharan Africa young women and adolescent girls are over eight times more likely to get HIV/AIDS than young men, we launched a comprehensive prevention program to reduce HIV infections among this population in 10 sub-Saharan African countries.

“We have also helped prevent millions of new infections worldwide, including in more than 1.5 million babies of HIV-positive mothers who were born free of HIV.”

He warned: “Although we have come far in recent decades, our work is not yet done and the urgency to intervene in this epidemic is critical… accelerating the progress we have made will require sustained commitment and passion from every sector of society and across every level of government around the world.”

[Lord Jim]

Well, Trump is certainly resourceful when it come to figuring out ways to maximize his assholeness...

Paying for one act of cruelty by committing a second...

[wesw]

jim, do you honestly take this report at face value?

come on man....

PT Barnum woulda looooved to see you strolling thru the gate.

he woulda rubbed his hand on the chalk and given you a hearty pat on the back....

[Sue U]

Be sure to let me know when America is great again.

I believe in the bill of rights.

I believe in a gov t of, for, and by the people.

so shoot me, if you must.

Exactly who is threatening to shoot you for believing in the Bill of Rights and government of the people, by the people and for the people? Has someone here expressed any view advocating against the Bill of Rights or the concept of democracy?

I understand that trump s policies will likely make my life more difficult, supporting him already has.

But how will Trump's policies make your life better? What is the benefit to you of having Trump as president?

I believe that if Hillary had gotten elected, and the supreme court had been loaded with her picks, we would have lost our founding ideals, our constitution, our liberty.

On what do you base this belief? How would the "founding ideals, our constitution and our liberty" be lost? Be specific.

we shouldn t have to hide our thoughts and beliefs.

we should not be shamed for coming to jesus, or laughing at a joke, or telling a joke.

What thoughts and beliefs are you hiding? Who is making you hide them? Who is shaming you for being a Christian? What jokes are you forbidden from laughing at or telling?

I have freedom of association too. I have a right to attend a trump rally, even in CA, and not be spit on. you don t have a right to harass others.

Your right to freedom of association means only that the government can't tell you who to associate with. And last I checked, the government had never prevented anyone from going to a Trump rally. However, you have no protection from other citizens exercising their First Amendment rights to tell you exactly what they think of Mr. Trump and your support for him. Are you really that much of a snowflake?

going restaurants and to peoples homes, your fellow citizens, your public servants, and harassing them is wrong.

you can make fun of them, you can belittle them, but you can t get in their personal space and berate them, you can t impede them.

if you do this you are disturbing the peace.

Why should public officials who are out in public be shielded from the opinions of the people they allegedly serve? If the people are upset and angered by the actions of a public official, shouldn't that official know about it? Seriously, nobody's going to get in anyone's face for their position on highway funding, but when you tear children away from their parents to put them in baby jails for no purpose other than sheer cruelty you're going to piss people off. If you don't want to be treated like a monster, stop being a monster. If you want to continue being a monster, stop pretending that you are acceptable in human society.

you are promoting mob rule.

that is not what democracy looks like.

That is in fact exactly what democracy looks like: People free to express their opinions and to protest the actions policies of government. Public opinion pressure on policymakers. Agitating to promote change. If there is genuine harassment, go ahead and call the police. Otherwise, suck it up, because this is the life you chose.

[RayThom]

Well, if it's in teenVogue it must be true.

Trump Could Reportedly Detain More Immigrant Children at the Expense of HIV/AIDS Care
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/trump-c ... vaids-care

[wesw]

shrillness and hysteria...., good luck with that.

[Lord Jim]

PT Barnum woulda looooved to see you strolling thru the gate.

Dammit wes, I just got the thing fixed...

shrillness and hysteria....

Worked for Trump...

[Big RR]

wes--

wesw wrote:
we shouldn t have to hide our thoughts and beliefs.

we should not be shamed for coming to jesus, or laughing at a joke, or telling a joke.

What thoughts and beliefs are you hiding? Who is making you hide them? Who is shaming you for being a Christian? What jokes are you forbidden from laughing at or telling?

and even if you are, so what; isn't the right to state your opinions openly part of the Bill of Rights you say you "believe in". Part of that is anyone can call anyone an asshole for their beliefs. It may not be polite, but it's legal--and it should be.

I have freedom of association too. I have a right to attend a trump rally, even in CA, and not be spit on. you don t have a right to harass others.


Your right to freedom of association means only that the government can't tell you who to associate with. And last I checked, the government had never prevented anyone from going to a Trump rally. However, you have no protection from other citizens exercising their First Amendment rights to tell you exactly what they think of Mr. Trump and your support for him. Are you really that much of a snowflake?

sue hit the nail on the head here; what do you want, the government to protect you from having your feelings hurt or telling people they cannot say anything to you? You have the right to confront them as well.

going restaurants and to peoples homes, your fellow citizens, your public servants, and harassing them is wrong.

you can make fun of them, you can belittle them, but you can t get in their personal space and berate them, you can t impede them.

if you do this you are disturbing the peace.


Why should public officials who are out in public be shielded from the opinions of the people they allegedly serve? If the people are upset and angered by the actions of a public official, shouldn't that official know about it? Seriously, nobody's going to get in anyone's face for their position on highway funding, but when you tear children away from their parents to put them in baby jails for no purpose other than sheer cruelty you're going to piss people off. If you don't want to be treated like a monster, stop being a monster. If you want to continue being a monster, stop pretending that you are acceptable in human society.

Again, sue has it right; people can protest as they see fit, and have a right to generally confront or refuse service to whomever they choose. I have previously gone on the record to say sometimes I think some people go too far, but I support the Bill of Rights and defend their rights to do so, especially when it comes to public figures. Again, it may not be polite, but no law says you must be polite.

You want to support civil rights and freedom of speech and association and assembly? Fine, but bear in mind that it goes both ways and applies to people you disagree with, or don't like, or who are even (oh my god) rude to you. Personally I wouldn't have it any other way. Why would you?

[Lord Jim]

PT Barnum woulda looooved to see you strolling thru the gate.

he woulda rubbed his hand on the chalk and given you a hearty pat on the back....

Wes, a guy who is on record as saying that he couldn't see a single instance where Donald Trump had lied, is very poorly positioned to be holding forth on anyone elses gullibility...

[wesw]

the funny thing is, is that she and guin and others don t even realize that their strategy has cost them the mid term election.

the dems probably woulda flipped the house if not for shrillness and hysteria.

...also, too, as well...,guilt shame and humiliation.

great ideas....

it would be hi-larious if it weren t so sad.