ICE and the Rookie Officer

[Bicycle Bill]

-"BB"-

[ex-khobar Andy]

Nice one BB and wholly accurate.

[Lord Jim]

I've long supported throwing the book at employers who hire illegal aliens...

It's not an either/or proposition with border enforcement...(at least it shouldn't be)

[Scooter]

Can't remember what the system is called that employers are supposed to use to validate SSNs, but it should be mandatory for every employer, don't care what industry of if you're employing one person or 50,000. And the penalty if it wasn't used, and if any employees are found to be ineligible to work in the country, should be immediate forfeiture of the business, no hearing, no appeal. If it's a corporation, forfeiture would extend to any corporation of which the offender is a majority shareholder, and any corporation owning a majority of the offender's shares, and any corporation of which that parent is a majority shareholder, or which owns the majority of the parent's shares, and so on, and so on. The market for illegal workers would dry up faster than spit in the Sahara Desert.

[Big RR]

Either that or, facing such draconian penalties, they would offer ICE officers payoffs so high they couldn't refuse.

[Sue U]

Can't remember what the system is called that employers are supposed to use to validate SSNs, but it should be mandatory for every employer, don't care what industry of if you're employing one person or 50,000.

The system is called E-Verify, and as of now it is totally voluntary. Its (lack of) use is featuring prominently in a negligent hiring case I am litigating now against a janitorial services company -- a company that apparently hired undocumented workers so that it could evade paying federal taxes, as well as keep its workforce "in line" and underpaid because of their tenuous status. But the abuse of undocumented workers by employers gets only a wink and a nod in the enforcement system, because employers make campaign contributions.

[ex-khobar Andy]

Can't remember what the system is called that employers are supposed to use to validate SSNs, but it should be mandatory for every employer, don't care what industry of if you're employing one person or 50,000.

The system is called E-Verify, and as of now it is totally voluntary. Its (lack of) use is featuring prominently in a negligent hiring case I am litigating now against a janitorial services company -- a company that apparently hired undocumented workers so that it could evade paying federal taxes, as well as keep its workforce "in line" and underpaid because of their tenuous status. But the abuse of undocumented workers by employers gets only a wink and a nod in the enforcement system, because employers make campaign contributions.

You would think (and as soon as I wrote that I realized that we are not living in normal times - so no, you wouldn't) that the honest employers, and there are many many of them - in fact I think that 90% of businesses want to do the right thing - would be all over this. If the dishonest employer Sue is talking about (and of course they are innocent unless found to be guilty, so I am just using them as an example) is using illegal immigrants to cut his costs he can underbid the honest guys and thereby steal work from them. You would think that the honest guys would be insisting that E-verify becomes mandatory.