the article wrote:The Austrian capital, Vienna, has beaten Australia's Melbourne to be named the world's most liveable city. It's the first time a European city has topped the rankings of the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) annual survey. The worldwide league table ranks 140 cities on a range of factors, including political and social stability, crime, education and access to healthcare.
"... ranks 140 cities..." — so there's a lot of places that never were in the running in the first place.
I don't read BB's posts either...
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Provence is beautiful. I checked RE prices when we were there and they seemed high but I just did an online search and they are really quite reasonable, perhaps they were just high around Tourtour where we were staying.
BoSoxGal wrote:Hey BigRR, that link has a search function, but no lists. This link (from inside the first article) has a list of perfectly temperate cities - including Bogota:
Interesting. If anyone else wants to see that list without using that link, here it is:
The Perfect Cities. Without further ado, here are the 13 cities where the temperature is wonderful year round, in alphabetical order:
Antananarivo, Madagascar
Bogotá, Colombia
Caracas, Venezuela
Durban, South Africa
Guatemala City, Guatemala
Lima, Peru
Mexico City, Mexico
Nairobi, Kenya
Port Elizabeth, South Africa
Quito, Ecuador
San Diego, California
São Paulo, Brazil
Sydney, Australia
A couple of comments...I notice that the only "perfect city" in the U.S. is San Diego, and that the only country with more than one city on the list is South Africa. And if you want to move to one of those cities, knowing Spanish would be a BIG plus: I count 6 Spanish-speaking cities on the list.
Also, one of my first thoughts was, “What about Hawai‘i?????” But then I found this paragraph:
The Little Utopias. For this study, I chose to look at exclusively at major world cites—plus my hometown of Lexington. My reason for this is simple and personal: I made this index to find places that I might like to call home, and I want to live in a large, global city. That said, in doing this research, I found a number of small, often extremely expensive locations that meet my criteria for perfect temperature that I should share. Beyond the cities and regions I discussed above, the following places appear to fit my criteria: the Canary Islands, Hawaii, and parts of the Aegean Sea.
I would maintain that Honolulu meets his criteria as a "large, global city"—but I will concede that it's a bit expensive...however, there are other places in the state of Hawai‘i that aren't that expensive and still have perfect weather.
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The only one of those places I’ve been - and spent a lot of time - is San Diego, which I agree has near perfect weather. Sadly it’s also very expensive and overrun with asshole Americans.
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rubato wrote:Provence is beautiful. I checked RE prices when we were there and they seemed high but I just did an online search and they are really quite reasonable, perhaps they were just high around Tourtour where we were staying.
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I'm on a couple of weekly email lists for French real estate. Depending on where you go, the prices range from reasonable to outrageous. In any event, I wouldn't make any permanent move while my Mom is around, and the boys are in school. As I said before, my next step is to try it for a month at a time, and see how that works with my job and my bank accounts. Luckily my Swede loves France as much as I do, so he is more than willing to help me think it all through and plan.
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Lima is pretty much a damp desert. A lot of moisture very little rain. Or sun for that matter at least during the time of year we were there. We got 20 minutes of sun of the 5 days we were there and the locals were surprised we even got that much. Though I can’t say I remember being particularly uncomfortable during my time there. I just don’t know if I could deal with having large portions of the year with little sun and heavy water restrictions.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
BoSoxGal wrote:The only one of those places I’ve been - and spent a lot of time - is San Diego, which I agree has near perfect weather. Sadly it’s also very expensive and overrun with asshole Americans.
Went to SDSU in the early 1970's.
Not nearly as crowded as it is now and not as cheap to live either.
I still prefer NorCal, but then again that's just me.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
There actually were 3 other California cities in the "close-but-no-cigar" categories: LA (don't need heat; don't really need A/C but you might prefer it), SF, and San Jose (both don't need A/C; don't really need heat but you might prefer it)—and those were the only places in the U.S. that got even that close to "perfect."
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the only US city I would add to that list Santa Fe NM; Santa Fe, in particular, with its high desert weather has a pretty good year round temperature with little need for air (although I would still like it at times) or heat (although some may want it). It also is a lot cheaper to live in than San Diego and the other US cities. It also, has a world class opera house (open air) and a pretty good arts community. Of course it is in the middle of NM, with its subpar schools and there is not a lot around (other than Albuquerque, which might also make the list, but I've been in Santa Fe a lot more times).
"Perfect weather" is a pretty subjective measure. I like having the four seasons and the weather changes that come with them. (Although as I get older, I think more and more that winter should be limited to two months; that's quite enough.)
And weather alone seems pretty narrow view on why to live somewhere. I need a lot more than sun and no heating bill to survive happily.
BigRR - love Santa Fe. Also on my list of places to consider for retirement. The lack of water scares me, especially as global warming worsens. But the weather seems pretty close to perfect to me.
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Santa Fe--The lack of water is a concern, but I imagine I'd be dead before that is a major problem , and the problem would be bigger in LA first. And Santa Fe has the added benefit of being close to Taos and skiing (just a couple of hours drive).
And Sue, while weather is a concern, I agree you have to consider a lot of other things in deciding where to live. Personally, I also like the seasons, but prefer the cold to the heat and would be fine with a one month summer, even if it meant a longer winter.
Six months of summer. Three months of fall. Two months of spring. One month of winter. (I could live with two, also).
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I have to like the natural landscape and not feel trapped in endless sea of urban-suburban development. I like Santa Fe as a place to visit but could not live there year-round; too cold and too small . But the art galleries are fantastic, the Tex-Mex is pretty good.
LA will never run out of water as long as the Pacific Ocean is still there.
De-sal is still incredibly expensive and resource intensive. It’s not yet the answer.
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Especially for widespread use; it could be used fro drinking water, but it would not be feasible for all water use for an area as big as LA.
St Thomas relies on desalinization for its fresh water, and water is tremendously expensive-most people supplement it with cisterns and other rain containers.
You're behind the times. Israel provides 55% of their drinking water by desal for a cost less than current ratepayers in S. Cal.
"... Water produced by desalination costs just a third of what it did in the 1990s. Sorek can produce a thousand liters of drinking water for 58 cents. Israeli households pay about US$30 a month for their water — similar to households in most U.S. cities, and far less than Las Vegas (US$47) or Los Angeles (US$58). ..."
You also forget the the current water supply systems are not free. Canals and pipes moving water hundreds of miles and pumping it over mountains are expensive and there are environmental costs as well; salmon runs and other fisheries destroyed, saltwater intrusion into estuaries, water table depletion in the central valley.
San Diego has finished a plant ( based on Israeli technology) to supply 10% of their own water and more plants are underway across the west cost. We will have to continue to improve in efficiency as well (as we did in the recent drought) but desal is the present.
The BVI pays 3x as much for electricity as well. So what? They use desal because it is the cheapest method of reliable supply (and currently have to use imported fossil fuels to run it.
There are people in S.C. and Monterey who already use rainwater capture to supplement their water supply.
They are starting to look at using desal in the delta because brackish water is even cheaper to desal than sea water.
, and the problem would be bigger in LA first. And Santa Fe has the added benefit of being close to Taos and skiing (just a couple of hours drive).