suffolk county is heading to mob rule....

[wesw]

dem nominee for DA is not gonna prosecute many crimes if elected.

boston strong

[wesw]

I was gonna link it, but the google machine seems to have shadowbanned the story.

I know that it is true because I just heard it from her own lips on the tucker Carlson show

shoplifting is among the crimes not to be prosecuted...., and resisting arrest.....

[BoSoxGal]

dem nominee for DA is not gonna prosecute many crimes if elected.

boston strong

Typical outrageously ignorant crap from wesw.


Every DA/CA in this country makes prosecutorial policy by making a priority of violent crimes over property and petty crimes, there is nothing new or radical in this. Criminal justice is vastly underfunded and no DAs office can afford to prosecute every crime; resisting arrest is very low on the priorities list and was in my office, too, because it’s often a very subjectively assessed offense and usually involves no victim other than the inflated ego of a hothead cop. Shoplifting is a nuisance crime; nobody’s encouraging it but the vast majority of shopkeepers are insured and/or such losses are an expectation built into the business model. Clearly repeat offenders would be pursued, but frankly in my office I chose not to prosecute a number of petty shoplift cases when resource limitations had me choosing between them and sex offenses against children - it’s a no brainer where the resources are best placed.

[Guinevere]

So you could rely upon wesw’s mysterious “link” or you could read what Rachael Rollins has to say on this subject herself: http://www.wbur.org/news/2018/09/05/rac ... t-attorney

Suffolk County appears poised to have a self-described reformer as its top prosecutor.

In the primary Tuesday, Rachael Rollins easily beat out five other Democrats -- including a DA's office insider endorsed by retiring District Attorney Dan Conley. She still has to face off against independent candidate Mike Maloney in November.

Rollins has worked as a lawyer for 20 years, including as a federal prosecutor. She was the first female general counsel at the MBTA, and was Massport's head lawyer.

Her win in the Boston-based county follows in the footsteps of Philadelphia and Chicago's Cook County, which also recently elected reform-minded prosecutors.

In an interview with WBUR last month -- before her primary victory -- Rollins outlined some of what she wants to achieve as DA. Here's what she said:

She wants the office to reflect Suffolk County:

Rollins would represent a majority-minority county, and she says the staffers and assistant district attorneys in the office need to mirror that.

"You have to intentionally make sure you want women to be in leadership," she said. "You have to intentionally make sure you want people of different abilities to be in leadership. You have to work hard to make sure that there are people of color — and in particular black and brown people — whom are the ones that are most often reflected in our criminal justice system."

She says she plans to recruit and retain more people of color, something that would be helped by her time as the former president of the Massachusetts Black Lawyers Association and connections with the Boston branch of the NAACP.

She wants to eliminate more mandatory minimum sentences:

The criminal justice reform bill passed by the Legislature this year got rid of mandatory minimums for many drug crimes, but increased them for trafficking synthetic opioids like fentanyl and carfentanil. Rollins wants most mandatory minimums gone -- except for first-degree murder. She says we need to trust judges when it comes to sentencing.

She wants to get rid of cash bail:

Instead, Rollins wants to see Massachusetts be more like New Jersey, which eliminated cash bail in favor of a system in which judges consider each defendant's risk before deciding if the person should be held. In this state, there's already a process for that, called a dangerousness hearing.

She thinks there are better ways to get people to return to court than money — by getting people to trust the system. Then, she says, they'll hand over cellphone numbers or other personal information so the courts can keep track of them.

"When they look at a court system that they believe is set up to harm them, or not to help them, it's going to be hard to get information from them to do that," she said.

She wants to track and turn over more data in the office:

She specifically mentioned Kim Foxx, the state's attorney in Cook County in Chicago, who has collected and published case data. Rollins said she'll waive fees for public records requests for those in education and community groups.

She wants the DA's office to work more like a service industry:

She says that at Logan Airport, state troopers working the terminals had to be reminded that not every interaction with a traveler needed to be treated like a police encounter, shouting at people picking up their grandmother to keep it moving. They had to be told to use a more gentle touch, she says. That's also what needs to happen at the DA's office, she says, with more of a focus on families of victims and suspects than the bottom line of prosecution.

She said she'd bring a different lens to the office:

Rollins is the oldest of five kids, some of whom have been caught up in the criminal justice system. As a result, she's raising two of her nieces, in addition to her teenage daughter.

"I've lived this experience as a black woman my entire life," she said. "And I also am really fortunate that I've gone to some of the best schools in the world and also have lived a life that has shown me a different side of the world as well."

[RayThom]

I was gonna link it, but the google machine seems to have shadowbanned the story.

I know that it is true because I just heard it from her own lips on the tucker Carlson show...

Your google machine must be out of whack. I found a link to the story only to find that Guin already posted a different one.

wesw, the next time you make one of your bold and/or lame assertions try to back it up with some proof. Otherwise we're going to stop taking you on your word. Your credibility is at stake here. Don't blow it.

[Lord Jim]

So you could rely upon wesw’s mysterious “link” or you could read what Rachael Rollins has to say on this subject herself:

Indeed you can, you can read it on her own campaign website...

Which actually backs up the basic thrust of what wes is saying. (Blind pig, acorn...the law of averages indicates he'd have to get something right eventually...)

Charges To Be Declined

Charges for which the Default is to Decline Prosecuting (unless supervisor permission is obtained).

Trespassing
Shoplifting (including offenses that are essentially shoplifting but charged as larceny)
Larceny under $250
Disorderly conduct
Disturbing the peace
Receiving stolen property
Minor driving offenses, including operating with a suspend or revoked license
Breaking and entering — where it is into a vacant property or where it is for the purpose of sleeping or seeking refuge from the cold and there is no actual damage to property
Wanton or malicious destruction of property
Threats – excluding domestic violence
Minor in possession of alcohol
Drug possession
Drug possession with intent to distribute
A stand alone resisting arrest charge, i.e. cases where a person is charged with resisting arrest and that is the only charge
A resisting arrest charge combined with only charges that all fall under the list of charges to decline to prosecute, e.g. resisting arrest charge combined only with a trespassing charge[or a drug possession with intent to distribute charge]

https://rollins4da.com/policy/charges-to-be-declined/

[Guinevere]

How about posting the rest of the page there, bucko:

“instead of prosecuting, these cases should be (1) outright dismissed prior to arraignment or (2) where appropriate, diverted and treated as a civil infraction for which community service is satisfactory, restitution is satisfactory or engagement with appropriate community-based no-cost programming, job training or schooling is satisfactory. In the exceptional circumstances where prosecution of one of these charges is warranted, the line DA must first seek permission from his or her supervisor. If necessary, arraignment will be continued to allow for consultation with supervisor. Thus, there will be an avenue for prosecuting these misdemeanors when necessary but it will be appropriately overseen by experienced prosecutors.

Note: this is essentially already happening for drug possession cases in Roxbury and Dorchester District Court.”


You think there is time and money available to imprison people for trespassing? If you look at any criminal code there is often the option of fines or time as a penalty. I see nothing wrong with administratively directing one over the other (and imposing those fines in a civil process where the standard of proof is lower). Where resources are appropriately managed, the serious crimes are able to be prosecuted more quickly and more thoroughly.

Not even close to “mob rule” and shame on you for suggesting the blind pig has become a seeing eye dog.

[wesw]

hey...., I was staying out of politics....

then scooter ran me out of the friendly thread in lifestyle.....

so blame scooter...., or Obama.....

when the little people start squatting in guin s neighborhood I ll bet that the DA will prosecute......

robbing a paki shop owner is one thing, but infringing on your betters is another......

ask jim about squatters....

san fran has a clean up crew to accommodate "squatters"....

[Guinevere]

I don’t live in a fancy town, (nor in Suffolk).I live in a solidly mixed blue/white collar community in Plymouth. More blue than white maybe, pro-Union, but far more liberal than our high end neighbors. All of which has nothing to do with the fact that your point is wrong, and your hyperbole is utter bs.

[wesw]

well crap, if you live in Plymouth you can go crabbing after a short drive.....

....and get a real jeep for goodness' sake.

people laugh and point at Liberty owners.

patriots too....,

good names but bad excuses for jeeps.

[Guinevere]

County. Like Suffolk is a county. As in the county of the DA elect you were scorning.

But since you only want to engage in insults, I’m done responding to you.

[wesw]

darn it guin.... I was just joshing you about the jeep....

it is hard to express tone on the 'puter....

jeep guys are clannish

the CJ guys all wave at each other but not to the XJ guys , and vice versa....

like ford and chevy guys...., they all rib each other, but it is all in fun

it is just a jeep thing,(or a guy thing) I m still learning the jeep rules

but seriously, the CJ guys and the XJ guys all snicker at patriots....

I wasn t insulting you, I was jusr ribbing you.

I m sorry if it came across otherwise.

wes

[BoSoxGal]

LJ, do you seriously not understand the need to set priorities for prosecution in a system that can’t possibly accommodate all the caseload that would otherwise come its way? Believe me, this is happening where you live, too.

[wesw]

BB s post seems to have disappeared. which is good because it was just silly.

[Bicycle Bill]

LJ, do you seriously not understand the need to set priorities for prosecution in a system that can’t possibly accommodate all the caseload that would otherwise come its way? Believe me, this is happening where you live, too.

I'm pretty sure LJ understands.  It was wes who made the claim that this would lead to "mob rule" — although honestly, I think that's wes and the other hard-core Trumpanzees really wants to see — more self-defense, 'stand-your-ground', Old West-style "you fuck with me and I'll really fuck with you" do-it-yourself justice.  That would sure cut down on the court congestion and backlogs, right

I'm sure even now, after having seen the ads for "The Purge" TV show, they feel that establishment of a purge should be another one of Trump's r⃥e⃥g⃥a⃥l⃥ ⃥d⃥e⃥c⃥r⃥e⃥e⃥s⃥ executive orders to get tough on crime, immigration, drugs, and anything else a "True 'Murican" should feel pissed off about.  They could even call it "The Night Of Broken Glass".

-"BB"-

[wesw]

ah, there it is again...., much changed tho.....

[wesw]

....projection really, bill s antifa buddies are the true fascist purgers, and truly I believe that bill would have all trumpanzees face mob justice.

arson and violence are the tools of the left today.

voting is soooo last year......

[Bicycle Bill]

ah, there it is again...., much changed tho.....

Yeah... I accidentally hit 'submit' instead of 'preview', so I took it down while I finished it.
Instead of just posting "stream of consciousness" brain-droppings ... like someone else we all know around here.

-"BB"-

[Burning Petard]

The devil is in the details. Right up at the top, above the list: "unless supervisor permission is obtained"

So WESW, you think this is 'mob rule'? Look into the history of Chancery Court. Delaware has one. It is the primary reason so many companies incorporate in Delaware, not tax benefits. WESW do you prefer tying up your life with many court appearances because you complained loudly about the bad sandwich they sold you at McDs and the teenager working as asst manager called the cops and you were removed for trespassing?

There is a big difference between strict application of the LAW, and real JUSTICE.

snailgate

[wesw]

well the title was obviously just an attention grabber.

I suggest that you check the candidates list of crimes that she will not prosecute and then see if you agree with her, or me.....

I don t support ambitious or overzealous prosecutions, but if you steal, fight the cops, or sell any amount of fentanyl I think that prosecution could certainly be defended.

imagine if you had a little mom and pop shop and were getting robbed blind, and when the cops did show up they were fought by the thieves, and then the robbers and fighters were back on the block in two hours.....