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a total low-life
Well, takes one to know one.

and as for Avenati, these are not his allegations, they are make by Julie Swetnick, who appears to be pretty credible--certainly a lot more than Trump is.

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Avenatti's response to Trump's twattering:
Michael Avenatti

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“False accusations?” Like those crimes your fixer Cohen pled to? You are an habitual liar and complete narcissist who also is a disgrace as a president and an embarrassment to our nation. You are so inept that your “best and brightest” are Cohen and Giuliani. Let’s go.
Whatever he means by "let's go," I'm bringing popcorn.
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Boy, that guy sugarcoats everything; I wish he'd speak his mind.

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Sue U wrote:Avenatti's response to Trump's twattering:
Michael Avenatti

@MichaelAvenatti

“False accusations?” Like those crimes your fixer Cohen pled to? You are an habitual liar and complete narcissist who also is a disgrace as a president and an embarrassment to our nation. You are so inept that your “best and brightest” are Cohen and Giuliani. Let’s go.
Whatever he means by "let's go," I'm bringing popcorn.
I’ve listened to a couple of interviews with Avenatti - Ari Melber among others - wherein he posits the problem with Democrats is their unwillingness to get down in the mud with Trump and fight back, hence his belief that somebody like himself needs to run in 2020 in order to tap into the public’s current sentiment and beat Trump at his own game - of verbal fisticuffs.

I have to say that while I’d love a return to the civility of old, for us to be able to follow Michelle Obama’s urging to go high when they go low, to be the ‘good guys’ as compared to the utter scumbaggery displayed by the GOP in the Trump era - I also want to FUCKING WIN! So I don’t know, maybe Avenatti is right on; I certainly would not dismiss him out of hand if Trump is still around and has his party’s presumptive nomination in 2020.
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BoSoxGal wrote:I’ve listened to a couple of interviews with Avenatti - Ari Melber among others - wherein he posits the problem with Democrats is their unwillingness to get down in the mud with Trump and fight back, hence his belief that somebody like himself needs to run in 2020 in order to tap into the public’s current sentiment and beat Trump at his own game - of verbal fisticuffs.

I have to say that while I’d love a return to the civility of old, for us to be able to follow Michelle Obama’s urging to go high when they go low, to be the ‘good guys’ as compared to the utter scumbaggery displayed by the GOP in the Trump era - I also want to FUCKING WIN! So I don’t know, maybe Avenatti is right on; I certainly would not dismiss him out of hand if Trump is still around and has his party’s presumptive nomination in 2020.
Yeah, I've been thinking about that too. I don't want Avenatti to be president or even vice-president, but I'd like to see him in the fight just to be a pitbull on Trump's ass 24/7.
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I just saw Avenatti interviewed by Jake Tapper on CNN...

He's saying that he's not going to release the names of the witnesses he claims to have to the public (2 who supposedly can back up Swetnick's specific claim, and others that can attest to Kavanaugh's participation in other drug/rape incidents) but that he'll give them to the FBI...

However, the FBI has apparently told him they have no interest in doing an investigation...

I don't know what Avenatti thinks he's going to accomplish with this approach but when you look at the timeline here, the witnesses need to come forward publicly NOW if there is to be any hope that this allegation will derail or at least stall the nomination...

They need to be publicly identified, vetted by the media, and interviewed by reporters. The only way you ever get to the point of having an FBI investigation into this, (where no federal law violations are even involved; these are state and locality crimes) is if you have sufficient public pressure to re-open Kavanaugh's FBI background investigation, and that can only happen if the corroborating witnesses come forward publicly.

Otherwise, all Avenatti has done is create a sideshow from the main event scheduled for tomorrow...
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Maybe what we need is a Spiro Agnew to run as the VP and make all the asinine comments and attacks--at least it would give the VP something to do. And we could then have a more distinguished president who is above the fray. I really don't know if I could cast a vote for a democratic Trump as president.

As for Trump being around in 2020, I still think something will happen long before then to prevent it--impeachment, assassination, maybe his head exploding or him alienating too many in the GOP, but I'd be surprised if they would run him in 2020. Of course, I have been wrong before, so don't bet much on this tip.

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Please ignore, I got taken in by a satirical post. Sorry. I though it was too good to be true.

sorry.

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Avenatti is a narcissistic opportunist and self promoter.I mean, who else would think he should run for president in two years? Ok, you get it.

He is wrong that Democrats should get down in the mud and fight like Trump does. We can't have two parties which lie all the time, one is bad enough.


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Another accusation (thus far anonymous) alleging Kavanaugh, while drunk, sexually assaulted his girlfriend in front of witnesses leaving a DC bar in 1998 - when he was 30 years old and working for Ken Starr on the Clinton investigation.

I’m not surprised to hear that a pattern of such behavior persisted into adulthood.
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And now this:
Kavanaugh questioned about Rhode Island sexual assault allegation

By Jordain Carney
September 26, 2018 - 08:13 PM EDT

Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh was questioned during a phone call with Judiciary Committee staff about an allegation that he sexually assaulted a woman in Rhode Island in the mid-1980s.

Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse's (R.I.) office received a phone call on Tuesday morning "making allegations concerning a rape on a boat in August of 1985," according to transcripts of a call between committee staff and Kavanaugh released on Wednesday.

The allegation, given to Whitehouse's staff and read on the call with Kavanaugh, claims that in August 1985 a "close acquaintance" of a Rhode Island constituent "was sexually assaulted by two heavily inebriated men she referred to at the time as Brett and Mark."

Kavanaugh strongly denied the allegation on the Tuesday call with Judiciary Committee staffers and called it "completely made up."

"I was not in Newport, haven't been on a boat in Newport. Not with Mark Judge on a boat, nor all those three things combined. This is just completely made up, or at least not me. I don't know what they're referring to," Kavanaugh told committee staffers, according to the transcript.

Kavanaugh's friend Judge has previously been implicated as present during a separate alleged sexual assault charge against Kavanaugh.

Spokesmen for GOP Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa), the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. A spokesman for Whitehouse declined to comment.

The constituent that called Whitehouse's office said they confronted the two men involved in the alleged incident on the morning that it happened.

The constituent realized that Kavanaugh was one of the men allegedly involved "when he saw Kavanaugh's high school yearbook photo on television over the weekend," according to the transcript released on Wednesday.

Kavanaugh added during the call with Judiciary Committee staffers that he has never sexually assaulted a woman in Rhode Island and that he had no knowledge of the boat where the alleged incident took place. He has previously said on television that he has never sexually assaulted anyone.

Committee staffers questioned Kavanaugh about multiple alleged incidents during the call, including allegations from Deborah Ramirez, who alleges that Kavanaugh exposed himself to her during their time at Yale.

They also questioned him about an anonymous complaint alleging he physically assaulted a woman in 1998, according to a transcript from phone calls this week.

Kavanaugh has denied wrongdoing in each of the incidents. The alleged Rhode Island incident is the fifth known allegation related to Kavanaugh.

Senators say they've received claims of multiple alleged incidents, ranging in credibility and brought to their staffs attention.

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), recalling how his staff found out about Ramirez's allegation, told reporters that "people call with rumors."

"Some of these are completely incredible and the staff dismisses it," he said. "I asked the same thing [about the Ramirez allegation], 'why didn't you tell me this,' they said 'do you know how many calls we get.'"

Grassley told reporters on Wednesday that his committee looks into any allegation about Kavanugh brought to their attention as long as they can find the name of the accuser or the lawyer.

"All I can tell you is we’re handling it exactly like we've handled every newspaper report or everybody contacting our office or anonymous even, if we can get the name and or the lawyer we've followed up with the usual staff interrogation,” Grassley said, when asked about the allegations released by the third accuser's lawyer, Michael Avenatti.
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All these allegations and yet an investigation has not been launched. These guys should do their job, and stop being shills for Trump. What do you bet they still push for a vote Friday?

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Big RR wrote:All these allegations and yet an investigation has not been launched. These guys should do their job, and stop being shills for Trump. What do you bet they still push for a vote Friday?
This not about Trump and has never been about Trump. The purpose of the Kavanaugh nomination is to get a relatively young right-wing ideologue on the Court in a long-term strategy to advance the interests of large corporations and social conservatives. Trump has no idea who Kavanaugh is or why he was put on the Federalist Society's short list for judicial nominations. And yes, they will vote to approve him Friday so he will be on the Court Monday when the term starts. Because to Grassley and McConnell gaining an extremist lock on the Court is the most important thing to shaping American society for generations to come.
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well, it IS about trump.

it is amazing that a man who plays so fast and loose with the truth, has been truth s greatest friend.

amazing.

the left s and the media s non stop bullshit assault on he and his supporters has exposed them as the most dishonest people in the country, and has allowed this bullshit railroading to be seen for what is is.

for example.....

wasn t lord jim in this same circle? didn t he live in the area and run with the same crowds?

I heard that lord jim was the OG animal house type who showed the next classes of high school students how to party hearty and stay stoned....

wasn t lord jim a junebug who flew to O C , MD, after classes let out for summer?

all this was told to me by a guy named Rodney, who was "chef" at the Tides Inn buffet, on the corner 1st ST and Baltimore Ave.

he is dead now, so you can t ask him.

he was killed in Salisbury in some kinda homosexual tryst, out in the country...., late at night, with no witnesses....

I m not saying that jim had anything to do with this, but I think that he needs to prove these things to be false.......

....see how easy that is? half of it is true......

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Sue U wrote:
Big RR wrote:All these allegations and yet an investigation has not been launched. These guys should do their job, and stop being shills for Trump. What do you bet they still push for a vote Friday?
This not about Trump and has never been about Trump. The purpose of the Kavanaugh nomination is to get a relatively young right-wing ideologue on the Court in a long-term strategy to advance the interests of large corporations and social conservatives. Trump has no idea who Kavanaugh is or why he was put on the Federalist Society's short list for judicial nominations. And yes, they will vote to approve him Friday so he will be on the Court Monday when the term starts. Because to Grassley and McConnell gaining an extremist lock on the Court is the most important thing to shaping American society for generations to come.
Yup; short term goal protect Trump from subpoena, long term goal 30+ years of an extreme conservative voice on the court.

I’m watching, although I’m not sure for how long as this is triggering me in a profound way.

I’ve little doubt that Kavanaugh will be seated on the court next week.
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After lots of flowery words about treating the witnesses fairly, Grassley proceeds to poison the well before Ford begins her testimony.
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Is Chuck Grassley borderline illiterate?! How does someone get into and stay in the Senate so long who can barely read?!?!
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I think he is flustered as all fuck because he recognizes what a dangerous game and how fine a line they are playing today.
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wesw wrote:well, it IS about trump.

it is amazing that a man who plays so fast and loose with the truth, has been truth s greatest friend.
You are delusional. If it's all about Trump, and just a Democrat political plot, then why was there no such opposition to Neil Gorsuch's nomination?

Trump is a compulsive liar and a fraud; he always has been. Good luck hitching your wagon to that, because you're exactly the sucker he's been ripping off for decades.
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Thanks for making that point, Sue; I’ve been frustrated to see all this bullshit about Democrats opposing Kavanaugh by any means necessary when Gorsuch was essentially ushered in without incident.

We all know Trump is going to put an extreme conservative voice on the SCOTUS, as his list has been out since he was a candidate.

But don’t add horrific insult to injury by placing a serial woman abuser there after a rushed and shoddy process. THERE IS NO REASON TO DO THIS! The GOP should have the very basic decency to put aside the partisan fire to WIN WIN WIN and give this one up - put forward the next name on that list and stop tormenting the millions of sexual assault survivors of all genders and political stripes who spend their lives in recovery.
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