Toronto Serial Killer...

[Lord Jim]

Three words you don't typically see together...

Toronto police find six sets of remains on property linked to landscaper

(CNN)Toronto police have recovered the remains of at least six people on a property linked to accused serial killer Bruce McArthur, Detective Sgt. Hank Idsinga said Thursday.

At least some of the remains have been identified as belonging to Andrew Kinsman, who was last seen in June 2017 and who is one of five missing men McArthur is charged with killing, Idsinga said.

Authorities have not identified the five other sets of remains, which were found in planters.

Idsinga said McArthur, 66, stored landscaping equipment at the property.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/08/americas ... index.html

[Scooter]

It has been pretty awful, not the least because people in the gay village have been trying to get police to look at this as the work of a potential serial killer since at least 2012, and the police kept insisting that the had no reason to believe it was the case. We now know that there were clear links to be seen between McArthur, who was already known to police, and a man who went missing in 2010, if only they had been bothered to look for them. A task force formed in 2013 to investigate three of the disappearances went nowhere. If was only after Andrew Kinsman's disappearance last summer that the police appeared to take their thumbs out of their asses, but even then, in their public comments at least they kept insisting that until they saw evidence of foul play and links between the disappearances, they were not prepared to treat these as potential serial killings. There are a lot a recriminations being directed at police from the LGBT community, with whom relations were already strained, over the handling of these cases and unrelated ones. A lot of racist assumptions and victim blaming were the order of the day in how police handled these cases.

And who knows how many more victims there might be, because the killer had dozens of landscaping clients plus owned some rural property northeast of the city, and more remains could be lodged on any one of them.

[Lord Jim]

in their public comments at least they kept insisting that until they saw evidence of foul play and links between the disappearances, they were not prepared to treat these as potential serial killings.

Local law enforcement and local political establishments are always extremely reluctant to publicly concede the possibility of a serial killer being loose in the community...

Police departments don't like it because the special task forces needed for serial killer investigations take a lot of resources, (and of course because they don't follow the usual motives for murder, serial killers are much tougher to catch) and politicos don't like these investigations because they're bad for business...

"Welcome to Friendly City, home of the Hatchet Man Serial Killer" doesn't really work well for the Convention and Visitors Bureau...(and local people also tend to stay home when they think there's a serial killer about...)

And in a case like this, (where you didn't have any bodies, only missing persons) they will be even more reluctant to consider the possibility of a serial killer...


This particular dirt bag sounds kind of like a Canadian John Wayne Gacy:

PROFILE OF A KILLER

Investigators have not yet released complete details, but the 66-year-old McArthur is believed to have met his victims cruising around the city in the van he used for work and on gay dating apps for older and large men with names such as “SilverDaddies” and “Bear 411.”

In his SilverDaddies profile, McArthur described himself as 5 feet 10 inches (178cm) tall and 221 pounds (100kg) and primarily interested in younger men.

“I can be a bit shy until I get to know you, but am a romantic at heart,” he wrote.

On his Facebook page, he posted pictures of his cats, children and grandchildren and of himself dressed as Santa Claus.

“There is an extensive digital investigation going on,” Idsinga said. “We’re going through computers. We’re going through cell phones. We’re going through online applications and different apps.”

The other three known victims are 58-year-old Majeed Kayhan, who went missing in 2012, Soroush Marmudi, 50, who went missing in 2015 and Dean Lisowick, who went missing between May 2016 and July 2017.

Police said Lisowick, who was in his mid-40s, was homeless, stayed in public shelters and had not been reported missing. Kinsman, 49, went missing last June and Esen, 44, was reported missing last April.

Police will eventually look at hundreds of missing person cases and try to determine if they were victims of McArthur. They are also running down tips that have come in from around the world.

“We are dealing with some agencies overseas,” Idsinga said.

Edward Royle, a lawyer for McArthur, has declined comment on the case. McArthur is due back in court on February 14. He has yet to enter a plea.

http://www.news.com.au/world/toronto-se ... a49e2168f3

Absolutely horrendous...

[ex-khobar Andy]

A piece on this topic on the Beeb today.

[ex-khobar Andy]

And a piece in today's Guardian.

[ex-khobar Andy]

I see that he has pleaded guilty to eight murders.

[Scooter]

What I haven't seen is whether he gave up the locations of other victims (because there is no way this guy began a serial killing spree in his late 50s) as part of the deal. The fact that it was Toronto Police Service, rather than the Crown Attorney's Office, that gave the heads up yesterday made me think there would be more to this than just a straight up guilty plea.

[MGMcAnick]

Police departments don't like it because the special task forces needed for serial killer investigations take a lot of resources, (and of course because they don't follow the usual motives for murder, serial killers are much tougher to catch) and politicos don't like these investigations because they're bad for business...

"Welcome to Friendly City, home of the Hatchet Man Serial Killer" doesn't really work well for the Convention and Visitors Bureau...(and local people also tend to stay home when they think there's a serial killer about...)

“There is an extensive digital investigation going on,” Idsinga said. “We’re going through computers. We’re going through cell phones. We’re going through online applications and different apps.”

Yup, Welcome to Wichita, home of BTK...

The police waited several years before admitting that the city had a serial killer. There were two murders in 1974 totaling five people and then two separate ones in '77 before any link was discussed in the press. He was finally caught after his taunting emails to a detective were traced to a computer he used at his church. He told the cops to look for a cereal box propped up on a road sign with souvenirs in it. Serial killer with clues in a cereal box. What a sense of humor. That box was about two miles straight south of my house in open country.

I know several people who knew BTK well, some very well. I met the son of one victim, and the husband of another years later. He was suspected of killing his own wife. You know, it's always the husband...

[Lord Jim]

MG, as I recall, didn't his daughter play an important role in BTK finally being caught?

[Big RR]

Or the parents, ask the Ramseys.

[Long Run]

MG, as I recall, didn't his daughter play an important role in BTK finally being caught?

Doesn't sound like it from this story:

https://www.kansas.com/news/special-rep ... 77060.html

[Lord Jim]

Looks like I didn't recall something correctly...

Well, I suppose after 59 years it was bound to happen eventually...

[MGMcAnick]

Yes LJ. The police told her that her father was arrested and thought to be BTK. They asked her for a saliva sample to compare DNA. She felt as though she'd betrayed him. It's all in her book, released this week. By that time, he'd already spilled his guts to the cops, one of whom is a shirt tail relative of mine. My relative said he was almost bragging in the interrogation room. He detailed all sorts of things about each killing that no one else knew. Joe wanted to barf.

[liberty]

What is this Canada the land of prostitute fed pork is a place that needs something as racist, homophobic and fascist as police? What happened to the idea that Canada is a place of love and peace and there are no homicides because no one has guns?

[MajGenl.Meade]

There is no good way to answer fools when they say something stupid. If you answer them, then you, too, will look like a fool. If you don’t answer them, they will think they are smart.
Prov 26:4-5

[Lord Jim]

[Big RR]

Meade

[ex-khobar Andy]

Not a Bible person so I had to be reminded of some of the wisdom in Proverbs. Thanks Meade.

Proverbs 26:12 is particularly apt these days:

"Do you see a person wise in their own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for them. " (New International Version.)

" Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him." (KJV)

I've always liked the bit about the dog returning to his own vomit, although I could not have told you its source. 26:11

[liberty]

There is no good way to answer fools when they say something stupid. If you answer them, then you, too, will look like a fool. If you don’t answer them, they will think they are smart.
Prov 26:4-5

Apparently you are referring to me, but I never think of myself as smart that is a dangerous thing for me especially with my disability and especially when writing. However, that will not stop me from continuing to struggle. I have struggled all my life and you would not believe the things I have overcome. At this point in my life I have just about overcome everything except my continuing hatred of bullies and thugs.

When I make up my mind to do something I don’t quit until I do it. When the opportunity presents itself to denigrate Canada I will not fail to take advantage of it.
Infected “Shit For Brains” can denigrate Louisiana all it wants. You see the difference between it and me is that it cares and I don’t.

Matthew 5:22

[Scooter]

No need for me to denigrate Lousiana. It does a great job of that all by itself.

Your family alone must bring the state IQ down 40 points.