we are the news....

[Lord Jim]

sounded like you wanted to brand me a collaborator and give me the proper punishment.

seemed pretty clear to me

Then you must be getting "clarity" from voices in your head...

I have said nothing, absolutely nothing...

About you getting some sort of "proper punishment"...

As far as I know, unlike your hero you have not committed any crimes (at least in connection with your support for Trump) and unlike, well. you, I'm not in favor of making it a crime to express political positions I don't approve of...

No matter how loathsome and repellent I may find those positions to be...

It may be dishonest, immoral, and unethical to (as you do) willfully spread Trump's smears and disinformation, and it may be crazy and/or stunningly ignorant as well as blatantly hypocritical to support a rule of law shredding oligarch while simultaneously attempting to claim that you are some sort of defender of liberty and supporter of the Constitution, but again, those are not a crimes either...

It seems that you may have at least some shred of conscience left, (which is why you can no longer bring yourself to defend Trump; just attack those opposing him in a desperate attempt to convince yourself that they are so bad that you don't have to think about how bad he is) and from your posts it seems pretty obvious to me that is causing you to do a pretty good job of punishing yourself for the slimy and dishonest things you are saying...

ETA:

You need to either figure out a way to get rid of your conscience entirely, or give in to it...(obviously I would favor the latter)

Your current fight with it is clearly ripping you up, and having a very negative effect on your health, both mental and physical...

[wesw]

bullshit

your orwell meme was clear

your two year Russia rant is the king of all conspiracy delusions

your unwavering support of an elitist oligarchy is disgustingly dishonest

your refusal to accept the results of the election is seditious and possibly treasonous

your suppositions about me are just silly.

play your game if you will.

you have been on offense for three years now.....

we have the ball now......

see you on the radio!

[Scooter]

The wife kicked you out of her bed again, I see. Didn't want the STIs you caught from who knows where coming anywhere near her.

[Big RR]

your refusal to accept the results of the election is seditious and possibly treasonous

You really hate free speech wes; even the Supreme court affirms that free speech is not sedition, which requires much more to form a conspiracy. Whether you agree with Scooter or not, he has a right to raise his opinion as you do your own. I know Trump doesn't like free speech, but I thought you'd defend it.

[wesw]

first, I wasn t speaking to that scooter person.

his speech destroys itself.

he isn t even American, so he doesn t count.

second, trying to overturn an election thru fraud and and slander and libel has to be illegal.

jim can always claim ignorance, plausibly since he is not well informed, of the deceit of the Russia witchhunt.

I don t think that he has done anything illegal

brennan clapper comey lynch page strok mc cabe Schiff rice Clinton and many others will not have an ignorance defense.

they are co conspirators, in my view.

I certainly support free speech

the overthrow of our elected president is not something that is a game however.

it is deadly serious.

and speaking of deadly serious....., Canada is rising up..., quietly, as Canadians do

scooter let slip his real feelings when he denigrated us, and our countries legitimacy.

did you catch his post about we "rebels" getting our come uppance?

I did.

speak freely, think freely

we are the press, we are the govt.

we don t worship queens.

neither scooter nor Elizabeth.

[wesw]

...and the young folks are excused.

to them, two years seems like a long time.

we know that it passes in the blink of an eye.

elections and presidents come and go.

[Crackpot]

I see wes has taken to the trump tactic of spreading so much bullshit that it is impossible to address it all

[Big RR]

wes--Ok, Jim, not Scooter. I apologize.

However, what do you mean by

second, trying to overturn an election thru fraud and and slander and libel has to be illegal.

?

How can fraud/slander/libel overturn the election result? Through impeachment? That's an entirely legal process that is totally within the power of Congress, and they can use whatever evidence and charges they see fit. It's hardly an illegal conspiracy to advocate impeachment. Or do you honestly believe that an insurrection is being plotted? I sincerely doubt that.

Face it, the birthers (including Trump) repeatedly said Obama had not right to be president because he wasn't a citizen (an outright lie), but Obama tolerated it because it was free speech. The same is true here.


Free speech is tough, sometime it hits close to home; but that's when we have to stand up for it. Remember, if you can silence your critics, they will one day do the same to you.

[Scooter]

Care to quote the words where I said anything about anyone "getting [their] comeuppance"?

Didn't think so.

This persecution complex is something you really should see a professional about. Paranoid delusions about people being out to get you are pretty classic signs of serious mental illness.

[Scooter]

What Jim posted:

You and your fellow Trumpanzees should take this Orwell quote to heart:



You need to stop being an accomplice wes...

1984 was intended as a warning, not (as you seem to be trying to use it) an instruction manual...

Your posts make you a full-fledged foot soldier in Trump's War On Truth...

You should go AWOL...

What KKKwes alleges:

sounded like you wanted to brand me a collaborator and give me the proper punishment.

seemed pretty clear to me

it wasn t exactly subtle.

please correct me if I misunderstood your clear sentiment.

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Didn't think so.

Like I said, classic paranoid delusions.

Somebody should get the guy some help before he becomes a danger to himself or others.

Oh dear, is that going to be interpreted as a desire to punish him?

[wesw]

yes, mr faggot, it is.

anyone who disagrees with you should be "re educated" , right?

all trumpanzees should be "helped" , right?

you self righteous little prig.

fuck off.

people who want sex changes are mentally ill.

they need help.

something has fucked them up.

someone should help them.

we should not teach kids that it is normal, it is not. it is a mental breakdown.

teaching fruitcake-ism is teaching madness and extinction.

preaching abortion is preaching murder, these people are sick, they should be helped.

controlling the thoughts and speech of others is a sign of some delusions of grandeur, those people should be "helped"....

people who talk about fucking grandmothers are psychotic, they should be "protected" from them selves.....

see where I m going, mr faggot?

[Big RR]

people who want sex changes are mentally ill.

they need help.

something has fucked them up.

someone should help them.

we should not teach kids that it is normal, it is not. it is a mental breakdown.

teaching fruitcake-ism is teaching madness and extinction.

preaching abortion is preaching murder, these people are sick, they should be helped.

Talk about being a "self righteous little prig".

[Scooter]

yes, mr faggot, it is.

It is, is it? Care to quote the words that say so?














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Didn't think so.

anyone who disagrees with you should be "re educated" , right?

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Didn't think so.

all trumpanzees should be "helped" , right?

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Didn't think so.

see where I m going, mr faggot?

Yep, in a death spiral of drug use that only compounds the now very obvious mental illness.

[Lord Jim]

I see wes has taken to the trump tactic of spreading so much bullshit that it is impossible to address it all

Man ain't that the truth...

He's really flooding the zone with crazy...

I was going to respond to some of it, but just as I started to type I could feel the life force starting to drain away...

[Bicycle Bill]

first, I wasn t speaking to that scooter person.

his speech destroys itself.

he isn t even American, so he doesn t count.

Well, I AM an American so I DO count — and I say that there ain't nothing Scooter has said that I can find fault with....
Now, on to your next point.

second, trying to overturn an election thru fraud and and slander and libel has to be illegal.

FINAL POPULAR VOTE COUNT:
Hillary Clinton ...... 65,844,610 votes
Dumb'old Trump ... 62,979,636 votes
... but the person who got less votes wins the election?  Wanna talk to me about overturning an election through fraud again?
Figures don't lie; and when you add in the number of votes for *other* candidates (7,804,213), that means that while 62,979,636 weak-minded, bigoted, racist, xenophobic, misogynistic idiots people voted for Trump, 73,648,813 — or almost ELEVEN MILLION MORE PEOPLE — voted for anybody *BUT* Trump (and that doesn't even begin to take into consideration the number of people who were so sickened and turned off of politics by Trump's antics that they stayed home and recused themselves).

-"BB"-

[wesw]

first, the red ink and virtual shouting only make you appear to be unhinged....

second, our election rules are set in such a way as to give the States independent power unto themselves, and you know this.

agree or not, the rules are what they are , and trump won within those rules.

if the rules were different, he would surely have campaigned and organized in CA and NY and would have almost certainly won the popular vote as well.

your post lacked knowledge understanding, truth and reason.

thanks for playing......

[Big RR]

Well Wes, at least you didn't make the argument that it was the "millions" of illegal immigrants" voting against him that lost him the popular vote, like Trump did many times. He lost the popular vote and won the electoral vote the same way W did--pretty stupid way to elect a president IMHO, but then it is the law.

I'm still pulling for the interstate compact popular vote initiative, but I'll just have to wait and see.

[wesw]

oh yeah!!!!

I didn t even count all the Illegals that voted!!!!!

[Scooter]

What Jim posted:

You and your fellow Trumpanzees should take this Orwell quote to heart:



You need to stop being an accomplice wes...

1984 was intended as a warning, not (as you seem to be trying to use it) an instruction manual...

Your posts make you a full-fledged foot soldier in Trump's War On Truth...

You should go AWOL...

What KKKwes alleges:

sounded like you wanted to brand me a collaborator and give me the proper punishment.

seemed pretty clear to me

it wasn t exactly subtle.

please correct me if I misunderstood your clear sentiment.

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Didn't think so.

[Big RR]

oh yeah!!!!

I didn t even count all the Illegals that voted!!!!!

Not that hard, take off your gloves an shoes and you'd have more digits than the numbers of illegals who voted; you don't even have to drop your pants.