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[Scooter]

[Scooter]

[Scooter]

[Joe Guy]

An armed fetus is a viable fetus...

[Scooter]

Yeah, think of all those fetuses that could never have been aborted if only they had an AR-15 with them in the womb.

[Scooter]

[Econoline]

[Bicycle Bill]

Wonderful!!  Great idea!!!  If I'd have had a vasectomy when I was 18 or 19, I could have fucked as many women as I wanted to without any worries whatsoever, because I would have been firing blanks.  And then, if at some point I had decided that I had finally met Ms. Right, I could have reconnected the plumbing and gone ahead and knocked her up.

Dammitall, Geraldine!  Why didn't you suggest this sooner??

-"BB"-

[RayThom]

... Dammitall, Geraldine!  Why didn't you suggest this sooner??...

Here's my suggestion -- much too late for you, of course. When I was 18 and 19 I used Trojans rubbers (now usually called condoms), or pulled out prior to going the distance.

This method worked for me all the way until 39. No vasectomy needed.

[Scooter]

[Econoline]

• Anti-Abortion Lawmakers Have No Idea How Women’s Bodies Work
  We cannot ask women to follow laws written by men who believe our bodies work like a game of ‘Marble Run’
  Jessica Valenti
  May 15
  
  Last night, the Alabama Senate voted to make abortion illegal from the moment of conception, punishable by 99 years in prison, with no exceptions for rape or incest. It will be the most extreme anti-abortion law in the nation, voted into effect by men who had trouble articulating the most basic facts about women’s biology, conception, or even how the law itself would function.
  
  When Senator Clyde Chambliss, a Republican, for example, was asked if the law would allow for incest victims to obtain abortions, he responded: “Yes, until she knows she’s pregnant.”
  
  He did not elaborate on how someone would have an abortion before she knows she’s pregnant, outside of claiming, “It takes time for all the chromosomes to come together.”
  
  Women’s bodies, lives, and futures are quite literally in the hands of men who seemingly couldn’t pass a high school health class. That’s part of what’s so hard about watching these debates: It’s not just that women’s rights and autonomy are being legislated away, but that it’s being done by complete morons.
  
  This lack of remedial understanding of women’s bodies is not limited to Alabama. Representative John Becker of Ohio, a Republican, for example, sponsored a bill to limit insurance coverage for abortions, but claimed that it would have an exception for ectopic pregnancies, when the fertilized egg implants outside the uterus. “That treatment would be removing the embryo from the fallopian tube and reinserting it in the uterus,” he said, explaining a procedure that doesn’t exist and isn’t medically possible.
  
  There is also Texas state Representative Dan Flynn, a Republican, who believes abortion requires cutting into a woman’s uterus, or Vito Barbieri, the Idaho state Representative, a Republican, who thought you could give a woman a remote gynecological exam by having her swallow a tiny camera. And who among us can forget former Missouri Congressman Todd Akin, who once claimed that women can’t get pregnant if they’ve been raped because “the female body has ways to shut the whole thing down.” (Akin was not the only Republican congressman who believed this: In 1995, North Carolina’s former state Representative Henry Aldridge, claimed that when women are raped, “the juices don’t flow, the body functions don’t work, and they don’t get pregnant.”)
  
  We cannot ask women to follow laws written by men who believe our bodies work like a game of Marble Run.
  
  It’s not just that their science is so woefully wrong. The politicians passing these arcane laws seem to have zero understanding of how the implementation of their legislation will impact real-life women.
  
  When asked how the state would treat women who have had miscarriages — how would they be able to prove they didn’t end the pregnancy? — Chambliss, the Alabama Senator, responded that the burden of proof would be on the prosecution. Does that mean that all miscarriages will be investigated? (If you think that’s out of the realm of possibility, consider that a Virginia lawmaker once tried to pass a bill that would require women to report their miscarriages to the police within 24 hours.)
  
  Sometimes, though, lawmakers’ absolute ignorance over the laws they are passing provides necessary ammunition to American women. When Alabama Senator Bobby Singleton, a Democrat, pointed out that Alabama’s new law could punish those who dispose of fertilized eggs at an IVF clinic, Chambliss responded, “The egg in the lab doesn’t apply. It’s not in a woman. She’s not pregnant.”
  
  So much for “life begins at conception.” Chambliss proved what feminists have been saying all along — this isn’t about protecting fertilized eggs. It never has been. These laws are about men controlling women’s bodies. Even if they don’t know the first thing about how they work.

[Scooter]

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[Scooter]

They asked me to tell you what it was like to be twenty and pregnant in 1950 and when you tell your boyfriend you’re pregnant, he tells you about a friend of his in the army whose girl told him she was pregnant, so he got all his buddies to come and say, “We all f*cked her, so who knows who the father is?” And he laughs at the good joke….

What was it like, if you were planning to go to graduate school and get a degree and earn a living so you could support yourself and do the work you loved—what it was like to be a senior at Radcliffe and pregnant and if you bore this child, this child which the law demanded you bear and would then call “unlawful,” “illegitimate,” this child whose father denied it … What was it like? […]

It’s like this: if I had dropped out of college, thrown away my education, depended on my parents … if I had done all that, which is what the anti-abortion people want me to have done, I would have borne a child for them, … the authorities, the theorists, the fundamentalists; I would have born a child for them, their child.

But I would not have born my own first child, or second child, or third child. My children.

The life of that fetus would have prevented, would have aborted, three other fetuses … the three wanted children, the three I had with my husband—whom, if I had not aborted the unwanted one, I would never have met … I would have been an “unwed mother” of a three-year-old in California, without work, with half an education, living off her parents….

But it is the children I have to come back to, my children Elisabeth, Caroline, Theodore, my joy, my pride, my loves. If I had not broken the law and aborted that life nobody wanted, they would have been aborted by a cruel, bigoted, and senseless law. They would never have been born. This thought I cannot bear.

What was it like, in the Dark Ages when abortion was a crime, for the girl whose dad couldn’t borrow cash, as my dad could? What was it like for the girl who couldn’t even tell her dad, because he would go crazy with shame and rage? Who couldn’t tell her mother? Who had to go alone to that filthy room and put herself body and soul into the hands of a professional criminal? – because that is what every doctor who did an abortion was, whether he was an extortionist or an idealist.

You know what it was like for her. You know and I know; that is why we are here. We are not going back to the Dark Ages. We are not going to let anybody in this country have that kind of power over any girl or woman. There are great powers, outside the government and in it, trying to legislate the return of darkness. We are not great powers. But we are the light. Nobody can put us out. May all of you shine very bright and steady, today and always.

-- Ursula K. Le Guin

[Scooter]

[Bicycle Bill]

I will say one thing ....

With all these stories about "what it was like 50 years ago when I was unmarried, underage, and pregnant so I had an abortion" (i.e., Ursula's story in Scooter's post above) coming out from all these female figures and celebrities, there must have been a helluvalot of women who were swallowing whatever bullshit some guy told them and spreading their legs for them — then resorting to abortion as a retroactive birth control.  Either that or rape was as common as smoking cigarettes or stealing hubcaps.

And I don't think it was the second one.

-"BB"-

[Scooter]

You say "retroactive birth control" as if believing a man who tells you he is in it for the long haul and then finding out the hard way that he isn't, represents some character flaw on the woman's part that she should have been made to pay for by having to raise a child on her own.

[Scooter]

[Bicycle Bill]

-"BB"-

[Bicycle Bill]

He's been dead for what — ten years now? — but he got it right even back then.

-"BB"-

[RayThom]

George Carlin: The Unborn