A Thread For Liberty To Express His New Posting Style

[Scooter]

Yeah lib, it would be fair to say that you've had a consistent tendency to "bury the lead" whenever you have referenced this story...

Yeah, the irony is completely lost on the village idiot that he uses this story to accuse "liberals" of being hypocrites and liars, and he lies about what happened, making him, well, a hypocrite and a liar.

I guess that makes the village idiot exactly what his conception of a "liberal" is.

[liberty]

The chap could have burned a P.R. flag and, aside from showing himself to be as much of an ass as those who burn the U.S. flag, he would have committed no crime.

I guess you don't know the difference between a flag and an assault on a person. Why am I not surprise?

If he had burned the Puerto Rican flag in her presence it would have seen as threatening and assault because it would have frightened her. The guy was an ass hole, but should he go to prison for ten years for that.

[Big RR]

Of course he would (although I sincerely doubt anything near 10 years), if, e.g., he doused the flag in gasoline and threw it at her (or if he doused her in gasoline and threw the lit flag at her), but just burning a flag? Spare me the BS.

[MajGenl.Meade]

You really try my patience, lib. "IF" catches no fish.

(a) The man did not burn any flag. (b) He has been charged with a hate crime, Felony 3, potential 3-5 years in prison (as I read). (c) He's not had a trial yet but yes, I should think 3 years with time off for attending sensitivity training would be about right.

Deal with facts and reality (if possible).

Did you answer me about your lying yet? Ignorance or purposeful? Which was it?

[Scooter]

And yet he managed to get himself charged with assault and other assorted offences without having to commit the imaginary crimes you have created. Funny how that works.

[Big RR]

Well to be fair, if he had shot her, he'd probably be charged with murder too. Funny how that works--after you commit a crime, you will likely be charged with committing it. And assault and menacing are crimes.

[MajGenl.Meade]

We mustn't overlook the known fact that liberals regularly commit grand theft auto for purposes of drive-by shootings and hit-skip and. . . GET AWAY WITH IT! Huh? Huh? How about that?

[Joe Guy]

If he had burned the Puerto Rican flag in her presence it would have seen as threatening and assault....

Especially since she was wearing it.

[Scooter]

Yes, setting her breasts on fire probably would have been seen as threatening and assault...

[Big RR]

Possibly even arson and battery.

[liberty]

Black man kills white boy but it is only a misdemeanor: Why is this not a hate crime?

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/08/09 ... in-attack/

NYPD: College Basketball Coach Arrested In Deadly Attack On Tourist
August 9, 2018 at 11:02 pm
Filed Under:Local TV, Long Island City, Queens, Wake Forest University



NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) – A Wake Forest University assistant basketball coach has been charged in the death of a Florida man killed while visiting New York City for a wedding.

Jamill Jones, 35, of Kernerville, North Carolina, was arrested Thursday and charged with third-degree assault.
“The Jones family sends their deepest condolences and sympathies to the Szabo family. We won’t be making any further comments,” Jones’s attorney said after his arraignment.


A Wake Forest University assistant basketball coach has been charged in the death of a Florida man killed while visiting New York City for a wedding.

Police said 35-year-old Sandor Szabo was punched in the face Sunday on 29th Street near 41st Avenue in Long Island City, Queens. The blow was so hard, Szabo fell backwards, hitting his head on the concrete.
His family said the marketing professional was leaving the hotel where his brother was staying and called for a car to go back to his own hotel. The family believes he was knocking on car windows to check on his ride when he knocked on the suspect’s window.
The man exited a white SUV and punched Szabo, leaving him bleeding on the ground, police said. He was placed on life support and later died.


Sandor Szabo. (Credit: Balazs Szabo)
On Wednesday, the family sent a statement to CBS2 that read in part:
(Sandor’s) family and friends are overwhelmed, but not surprised, by the outpouring of love and support from the many people whose lives he touched; he did not know a stranger. He was kind, giving, loving and enjoyed life to the fullest. He will be missed but there is comfort knowing he will live on in the many lives he will save through organ donation with “Live On NY”.
Wake Forest University tweeted a statement Thursday, saying, “We have just been made aware of this matter and we are gathering information. We will make a further statement after we learn more about the matter.”

[Crackpot]

Why would it be a hate crime?

[Crackpot]

And why no t answer the questions already put to you?

[Lord Jim]

I don't know about a "hate crime" (there'd have to be some evidence of racial or ethnic motivation for that; the guy could just be a hot-headed asshole) but just based on that article, it sure looks a helluva lot more like some degree of manslaughter than, " third-degree assault"...

[Scooter]

And why no t answer the questions already put to you?

Because the village idiot realized that he dug himself into a hole that he couldn't get out of on his cause du jour, and so needed to change the channel.

[Crackpot]

I don't know about a "hate crime" (there'd have to be some evidence of racial or ethnic motivation for that; the guy could just be a hot-headed asshole) but just based on that article, it sure looks a helluva lot more like some degree of manslaughter than, " third-degree assault"...

My guess is details are/were sketchy/inconsistent and since the article only discussed arrest the charge was there to start the process while evidence was/is collected.

Now since the article is a year old we could check for updates (with given the posters track record has a reasonable progression or satisfying conclusion) but why spoil the fun?

[Crackpot]

I think liberty is just looking out for that ever abused minority: obnoxious drunks

[BoSoxGal]

Here’s a link with video of what occurred - as much as can be seen, anyway: https://www.journalnow.com/video-incide ... ae301.html

White guy was stumbling drunk, attempted to vandalize a mailbox, walking into the road and apparently shouting at people/cars going by. Some of the interaction between him and the puncher can’t be seen because of the vehicle’s lights - but who knows what behavior he exhibited while interacting with a man whose only crime was driving down the street? Maybe he was a closet racist like so many being outed on social media today - maybe he called him the n word and threatened him as stumbling drunks are often inclined to do. The puncher alleges white drunk guy shattered his back window - a claim that remains in dispute, it appears.

Not saying the white guy deserved to die, but it’s nearly impossible to make a murder case out of a one punch, which is what the family is demanding. The DAs know better - there is no basis to establish intent which is required for such a charge. Puncher punched a guy who assaulted his property and may have also threatened him with harm - that will come out at trial. Puncher didn’t intend for white drunk guy to die - at best it’s involuntary manslaughter and since the DA isn’t charging that, and the office isn’t known for undercharging, they clearly have reason to believe such charge is unsupported by evidence and unlikely to be proven at trial.

I’ve seek one punch cases prosecuted, unsuccessfully. Juries are reluctant to blame defendants for the injuries caused by pavement, even when contact with pavement came as a result of one punch. Juries often sympathize with the puncher, especially when the punchee was seriously inebriated and obnoxiously combative in his behavior.

Imagine how all this tragedy might have been avoided if the victim’s family had taken better care of him when he was clearly very overly intoxicated and shouldn’t have been stumbling around alone for an Uber or anything else.

Puncher’s life has been pretty well destroyed too, it appears - lost his job at Wake Forest and no other employment currently reported.

[liberty]

Why would it be a hate crime?

Was it a love crime? I would bet I know why he killed the boy and I have to guess because the news media doesn’t go into detail whine a white boy is killed. No one cares when a white boy is killed. He killed the white boy because he was insulted by the thinking he a black man was a lowly uber driver. Since his pride a black man was insulted the killing was justified, thinking like a liberal.

He killed this boy and won’t serve a year in jail and won’t even lose his job. He may not even be sued. Would it be racist for a black coach be sued for killing a white boy?

[liberty]

I think liberty is just looking out for that ever abused minority: obnoxious drunks

No, I am just saying that assholes drunk or otherwise should not be killed or to prison for years for being an assholes. Perhaps they should be committed for treatment if they are too much of a public, but not killed or imprisoned.