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“Women, I just want you to know, you are not perfect, but what I can say pretty indisputably is that you’re better than us,” Obama reportedly said Monday. “I’m absolutely confident that for two years if every nation on Earth was run by women, you would see a significant improvement across the board on just about everything."
Well, Queen Elizabeth did pretty well but the Spaniards and other furriners may not agree. So Margaret Thatcher is forgiven; Indira Gandhi did a cracking job; Golda Meier is cool again; Aung San Suu Ky has managed to stop all those Rohingya persecutions by waving the magic Nobel Prize; Evita Peron, come back, all is forgiven; Winnie Mandela would have been a wow if she hadn't upped and died; Victoria painted everything pink (but Liz II isn't really a "ruler"); Ranavalona, Madagascar tourist board wishes she was still on top; that raving success, Cleo was cool in Egypt; Aquino, Bhutto... so many who may be better than Barry and me but who knows?

Seriously, is the statement, "you're better than us" a form of condescension? Or is it seen as complimentary (which is how it is intended, no doubt)? What is it that women would do if every nation was run by 'em for two years?

Might not play well in North Korea. And is it damaging to Biden et al that Obama also stated that old white men should step aside (both parties) and let a woman run the show in the USA? Which Republican woman do we think he had in mind? Which Democrat?

So much for Donald Trump to consider
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Virtue signalling idiocy.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You guys are so transparent.
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Let Labour’s fightback begin with a woman as leader
Suzanne Moore

With Lisa Nandy, Angela Rayner and Stella Creasy in the fold, we are spoiled for choice. How exciting.
Well, I am excited, which is probably illegal. Still, I am energised by the idea that, finally, Labour may have a woman leader. I like the names mentioned so far. I can’t wait for there to be an opposition, nor can I believe there is not some sort of ethical vet who could come and sedate the Jeremy Corbyn cadre for their own peace of mind.
Virtue signalling idiocy. What about "lets get the best person for the job, regardless of whether they have tits and a fanny or a cock, are brown or white, old or young, or who they choose to get their rocks off with"
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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All politics is identity politics in some fashion; "best person for the job" includes factoring in those identity issues -- especially where that job is a unique position that ostensibly involves being representive of the people as a whole.
GAH!

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I'm not sure Sue, but that seems pretty much like choosing the best person taking into account all of his or her attributes. All women are not the same (nor are all men for that matter), but I see Obama's comments as pandering and condescending. By all means women should be part of the pool from which the best person is chosen, but the choice still needs to be made on a person by person basis. As Meade pointed out, a nation run by Indira Ghandi is not preferable to one run by a man.

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well, men can beat the hell 0ut 0f 0ne an0ther and then have beers t0gether the next week

w0men? n0t s0 much

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I don't know, I've been up in court against some women who "battled" as tough as any male, and then would be happy to go out for lunch or drinks after the trial or hearing was done, just like many male attorneys would. It all depends on the person and the particular circumstances. I've also known some male attorneys who were the opposite, who took everything personally and would continue to hold grudges well after the trial/hearing concluded. It all depends on one's personality. For example, I would put Trump, who can't let any perceived insult/slight/even disagreement pass without striking back (and holding grudges) in that latter personality type.

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I don’t know look at all the shit wes lets Trump slide on.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Big RR wrote:I see Obama's comments as pandering and condescending . . . . By all means women should be part of the pool from which the best person is chosen, but the choice still needs to be made on a person by person basis.
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I dunn0, RR, trump has n0t held grudges against many

graham cruz and many 0thers in the repub party

it has t0 be recipr0cated, th0, 0r it d0esn t w0rk

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How many times have women said "she is the most qualified" only to hear back "you're only voting for her because she's a woman." I stopped counting, back in 2007.... and yet I still hear it, all the effing time. Because, apparently, I'm too stupid to be able to analyze anything beyond gender? Because my silly little female brain couldn't possibly understand more than once concept at a time?

Look at how women leaders and candidates are criticized and analyzed, as compared to men, and tell me again how it's only about who is the "most qualified."

It is actually possible to be a fully realized man, to be successful in life, including family, business, and the rest of it, to respect women, and not be threatened by them, to include them in all aspects of decision-making and life, to not need "rules" about interacting with them, to not need to control them, and to even like them (not just as carriers of your seed and spawn). These men, these allies, have far richer, more satisfying, and better lives than some of you could ever even contemplate. Many of you are just dinosaurs (not quail). Thank the goddess you'll eventually be extinct.
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bitter much?

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wesw wrote:bitter much?
Exhibit A1, A2, and A3.
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y0u kn0w....

...we d0n t like killing spiders either.

they scare us t00.

has t0 be d0ne th0.....

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wishing peple dead seems quite bitter t0 me.

have y0u g0ne c0mmie t00?

:shrug

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0k, if we all gr0w us s0me titties, w0uld y0u be happy then?

:loon

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y0u have really changed since I arrived 0n the b0ard.

I m sure that it is my fault.

:roll:

a 50 yr 0ld greta Thunberg.

sad.

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wesw wrote:y0u kn0w....

...we d0n t like killing spiders either.

they scare us t00.

has t0 be d0ne th0.....
I can imagine that little speech being made in Germany in the late 1930s.
Just substitute "Jews" for "spiders".
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y0u are fucking nuts, BB

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