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Re: 23 years

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A very talented actor, Mira Sorvino, rebuffed Harvey Weinstein and was blackballed throughout Hollywood for the next 20+ years as a result.

Imagine barely being able to work and missing what should’ve been a brilliant career because you wouldn’t succumb to coercive rape.

Sorvino is talented and very beautiful- she was young and fresh off an Oscar win when this happened. There is no question she should’ve been a big star.

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If the choice is work or no work , that’s at a minimum coercive rape. As it happens in Harvey’s case there was plenty of violence and threats of violence too.

It’s disgusting to see anybody here being an apologist for any kind of rape.
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And you wonder why the Bill-man is still a virgin in his advanced years.

An obvious case of self-fulfilled prophecy mixed with an ample amount of self-loathing.
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Barnacle Bill probably has one of these over his fireplace. Image

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TPFKA@W wrote:
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You sound like a Big Sissy Guy. But remember you love us more than you hate us.
I'm not a Sissy Guy. And yes, my hatred for you guys is slightly less than my love for everyone.

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I'm not a Sissy Guy.
I did write BIG. I probably meant BUG. You do enjoy being pesky.

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I'm not pesky. I'm just a stalker and I think I might be wesw because people keep telling me I am and sometimes I'm a little bit sarcastic.

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I'm n0t pesky. I'm just a stalker and I think I might be wesw because pe0ple keep telling me I am and s0metimes I'm a little bit sarcastic.

Fixed that for you, Joe.

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Thanks, Andy. I f0rg0t t0 get int0 character.

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You are pesky. Like the little brother I never had and never wanted.

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Pesky is in the eye of the beholder. I suspect you behold a lot of pesks.

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Persistently pesky.

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Persistently pesky perpetrator of provocation?

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Joe Guy wrote:
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Persistently pesky perpetrator of provocation?

Perfectly presented.

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BoSoxGal wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:13 pm
A very talented actor, Mira Sorvino, rebuffed Harvey Weinstein and was blackballed throughout Hollywood for the next 20+ years as a result.

Imagine barely being able to work and missing what should’ve been a brilliant career because you wouldn’t succumb to coercive rape.
She didn't go short of work, hardly "blackballed" by Hollywood.
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Yes, her career was not at all "ruined" though Peter Jackson has stated forcefully (and apologizing for it) that he rejected Ms. Sorvino and Ms. Judd from LOTR consideration based upon misinformation received from Weinstein and Miramax. They and others undoubtedly lost some parts but to say they were "blackballed" is rather hyperbolic. Odd words, innit?
Sorvino appeared in a few more of Weinstein’s films afterward, but felt that saying no to Weinstein and reporting the harassment had ultimately hurt her career. She said, “There may have been other factors, but I definitely felt iced out and that my rejection of Harvey had something to do with it.”
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Sorvino said in a tweet: "Just seeing this after I awoke, I burst out crying." "There it is, confirmation that Harvey Weinstein derailed my career, something I suspected but was unsure. Thank you Peter Jackson for being honest. I'm just heartsick."

Judd, meanwhile, recalled how her involvement progressed far enough to be invited by Jackson to see preparation work for the blockbuster trilogy. "I remember this well," she tweeted. "They asked which if the two roles I preferred, and then I abruptly never heard from them again. I appreciate the truth coming out," she said.
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So you’re not going to take the women’s words for what happened to *their* careers when they rejected HW?

You both somehow have more insight?

Exactly the problem. :arg

ETA: when you are barred from working for one of the most influential producers in the industry, whose reach cuts across studios and directors, that is the textbook example of blackballing.
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Re: 23 years

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Guinevere wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:42 pm
So you’re not going to take the women’s words for what happened to *their* careers when they rejected HW?

You both somehow have more insight?

Exactly the problem. :arg

ETA: when you are barred from working for one of the most influential producers in the industry, whose reach cuts across studios and directors, that is the textbook example of blackballing.
Yes, but not "by Hollywood."
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Okay, I looked at her IMDB credits in detail, and while Sorvino seems to have a number of projects going on just this year (in pre-production or completed but not yet released) her credits after she won the Emmy seem to be almost all on TV shows with guest appearances (or recurring but not regular characters; maybe 8 or 10 appearances at the most).

So no, she didn't have to go back to working as a waitress, but her career trajectory has certainly NOT been what would expect from a young Academy Award winner. Clearly she was not being offered the kind of projects that someone with that status would normally be expected to get.

So "ruined" in the sense that she was prevented from ever getting any work as an actress, no. But "ruined" in the sense that she never had the career opportunities in film that she would undoubtedly have had without Weinstein's influence?

The answer to that is a definite YES.
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Her credits for that period are not the a-list projects she deserved. Hitchcock, btw, was much worse as attested to by Jessica Tandy and Tippi Hedren.

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