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EU to defy US sanctions with Iran aid

The European Union will send 20 million euros in humanitarian aid to Iran, which is subject to U.S. sanctions, to help alleviate the coronavirus, Patrick Wintour, the Guardian’s diplomatic editor, reports.

In a video news conference on Monday the EU’s top diplomat, Josep Borrell, also said the bloc support Tehran’s request for IMF financial help.

We’ve not been able to provide a lot of humanitarian help but there is some 20 million euros in the pipeline ... that we expect to be delivered over the next weeks ...

We also agree in supporting the request by Iran and also by Venezuela to the International Monetary Fund to have financial support.


Iran is set to see an increase in the numbers recorded as infected with coronavirus due to increase in the numbers being tested, Iran’s Ministry of Health warned on Monday as the latest figures showed over 20,00 had been infected and killed.

There are also predictions that Tehran would be hit be a specially large increase due to the big numbers that left the capital for the Iranian new year and due to return soon. The ministry said it was willing to introduce new measures to enforce social distancing saying pleading and pleading was not enough.

The widely criticised official figures show the numbers killed each 24 hours by the virus remained steady at 127 with 1,411 new Coronavirus victims. The total number of patients was 23,049 and total deaths 1,812. The number of listed recoveries was 8,376. The average age of infected patients 59 years and age of those died 64 years.

The official death rate has now been stable broadly for a week, raising suspicions that the figures have been manipulated.
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The right thing to do both practically and morally. They are suffering and we should help them. You never earn more affection and respect than when you extend your hand to someone in need. The Soviets understood this, in a negative sense, which is why they refused Marshall Plan aid.


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It is a concrete expression of the idea that humanitarian values are more important than superstition (religion) and ideology.

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That won't make any difference to the common Iranian nor to the political prisoners not released like the others. Like other aid I can guess where the euros will end up. :lol:

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You appear to be ignorant of the fact that Iran is a highly educated and internationally sophisticated country. The average Iranian knows more about the world than you do.

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rubato wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:20 pm
You appear to be ignorant of the fact that Iran is a highly educated and internationally sophisticated country. The average Iranian knows more about the world than you do.

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Undoubtedly. Did you check out the riots before COVID-19? The Green Revolution has been put down brutally every time it takes to the streets.

Now political prisoners are being left in prisons in extremely poor conditions to die while others were released. I take it you're ok with that since it helps the regime. True?
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"Undoubtedly. Did you check out the riots before COVID-19? The Green Revolution has been put down brutally every time it takes to the streets."

Such seems to be a sign of a highly educated and internationally sophisticated country. Have you checked out the riots in Paris lately?

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rubato wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:20 pm
You appear to be ignorant of the fact that Iran is a highly educated and internationally sophisticated country. The average Iranian knows more about the world than you do.

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Why do you think that is the case? If it was up to the Mullahs, Iran would as backward as Saudi Arabia.
I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

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liberty wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:00 am
rubato wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:20 pm
You appear to be ignorant of the fact that Iran is a highly educated and internationally sophisticated country. The average Iranian knows more about the world than you do.

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Why do you think that is the case? If it was up to the Mullahs, Iran would as backward as Saudi Arabia.
Here is another question what does the word Iran refers to; here is a clue that might help try spelling it like this Eryn. Here are some more clues horses, grass and chariots. Also like the Turks, the Iranians are linguistically and genetically different than the Arabs. Why would that be?
I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

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liberty wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:03 am
try spelling it like this Eryn. Here are some more clues horses, grass and chariots. Also like the Turks, the Iranians are linguistically and genetically different than the Arabs. Why would that be?
a) Eryn: my stars! They're Irish - explains a lot. Unless he means the Urban Dictionary definition; at any rate, it's a girl's name so maybe he's in love with an Iranian.

b) grass; my stars! I know great hash once came from Lebanon but not this! Resin is always superior to grass.

c) Who (apart from Arabs and their relatives) is NOT linguistically and genetically different "than" (sic) the Arabs? See, that proves it.
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Why do you think that is the case? If it was up to the Mullahs, Iran would as backward as Saudi Arabia.


Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia or even taken a close look at the country? They're a fairly well educated people with a high number of University degrees among the populace. They enjoy a fairly high standard of living and have a good healthcare system for all.

I won't defend their social systems or the kowtowing they extend to the religious authorities, but they are hardly unique in this regard (even among western countries). It's not somewhere I would like to live, but it's not the hellhole you suggest it is.

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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:11 am
liberty wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:03 am
try spelling it like this Eryn. Here are some more clues horses, grass and chariots. Also like the Turks, the Iranians are linguistically and genetically different than the Arabs. Why would that be?
a) Eryn: my stars! They're Irish - explains a lot. Unless he means the Urban Dictionary definition; at any rate, it's a girl's name so maybe he's in love with an Iranian.

b) grass; my stars! I know great hash once came from Lebanon but not this! Resin is always superior to grass.

c) Who (apart from Arabs and their relatives) is NOT linguistically and genetically different "than" (sic) the Arabs? See, that proves it.
Evidently from the time of the Sassanids (226–651 CE) Iranians have called it Iran, meaning the "Land of the Aryans" and Iranshahr. In Middle Persian sources, the name Arya and Iran is used for the pre-Sassanid Iranian empires as well as the Sassanid empire.

Name of Iran - Wikipedia
I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

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Of course, it was also called Persia in much of the world, at least until the early 20th century.

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Big RR wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:35 pm
Why do you think that is the case? If it was up to the Mullahs, Iran would as backward as Saudi Arabia.


Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia or even taken a close look at the country? They're a fairly well educated people with a high number of University degrees among the populace. They enjoy a fairly high standard of living and have a good healthcare system for all.

I won't defend their social systems or the kowtowing they extend to the religious authorities, but they are hardly unique in this regard (even among western countries). It's not somewhere I would like to live, but it's not the hellhole you suggest it is.

I never said Saudi Arabia is a hellhole. I said that Iran is more advanced which I believe is. And I believe that the reason for that is the former Shaw of Iran. He worked hard to drag the Iranian people into the modern world. He did much to modernize his country which is to our disadvantage now.

And the current ruling prince of Saudi Arabia has to some extent done the same thing in his country and I believe he will continue to do it if he survives.
I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

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Burning Petard wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:48 pm
"Undoubtedly. Did you check out the riots before COVID-19? The Green Revolution has been put down brutally every time it takes to the streets."

Such seems to be a sign of a highly educated and internationally sophisticated country. Have you checked out the riots in Paris lately?

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Big RR wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:35 pm
Why do you think that is the case? If it was up to the Mullahs, Iran would as backward as Saudi Arabia.


Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia or even taken a close look at the country? They're a fairly well educated people with a high number of University degrees among the populace. They enjoy a fairly high standard of living and have a good healthcare system for all.

I won't defend their social systems or the kowtowing they extend to the religious authorities, but they are hardly unique in this regard (even among western countries). It's not somewhere I would like to live, but it's not the hellhole you suggest it is.
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Wow. So much to unpack here.

Meade I don't know if you know that the Arabic word for grass or hay is حشيش which transliterates as hashish. Our word 'assassin' has the same root.

The Shaw of Iran. Would that be George Bernard? Give a whole new meaning to Arms and the Man. And yes I do typos too.

The Shah certainly did a lot to bring Iran into the 20th century. That doesn't make him a good person. Hell, Hitler built the autobahns and I like driving on them but he doesn't get a pass from me. In the same way, Muhammad bin Salman, the Crown Prince and heir apparent in Saudi Arabia, has spearheaded moves to ease social restrictions such as the ubiquity of the religious police, women drivers, and the requirement for a woman to have a male relative's approval to travel abroad. He wants to promote tourism and I can attest to the beauty of the country especially the coral reefs where I spent hundreds of hours. He also shook down several of the senior princes and businessmen who had been steadily draining the country's coffers and taking foreign kickbacks for years. One of those guys I knew quite well and I suspect I know one other but there is no available list of them all.

MbS has never explained where he got the dosh to buy his yacht (reported north of $350 mill); that (IMO fake) Leonardo ($465 mill) and his little pad in France ($300 mill IIRC).

But his murder of Jamal Khashoggi is unforgivable. As in NOT EVER.

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