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I know My company is aiding one of the Auto manufactures with ventilator components we also submitted a prototype making hospital gowns made out of airbag material. among other things
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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liberty wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:40 pm
I am going to try to fix my sewing machine and try my hand at making face masks. The problem is I don’t know what kind of material to use. My mother bought a lot of fabric and I didn’t have the heart to get rid of it. But what type would be best to use for a mask?
Wearing a mask can have a negative effect after a while. It creates the perfect environment for germs to grow. You may not only get COVID-19, you could also get creeping crud or fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva. Both ailments are intrinsic to the buccal cavity and olfactory protrusion.

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I suspect the warning on creeping crud is a bit late, which seems to have already spread to the brain.

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PBS is streaming the American Experience episode Influenza 1918; it’s excellent.
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Joe Guy wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:39 am
liberty wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:40 pm
I am going to try to fix my sewing machine and try my hand at making face masks. The problem is I don’t know what kind of material to use. My mother bought a lot of fabric and I didn’t have the heart to get rid of it. But what type would be best to use for a mask?
Wearing a mask can have a negative effect after a while. It creates the perfect environment for germs to grow. You may not only get COVID-19, you could also get creeping crud or fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva. Both ailments are intrinsic to the buccal cavity and olfactory protrusion.
The crud will have to wait for the residual alcohol to probably do its damage first. I use it to sanitize my mask for reuse, but I am not convinced that all of it dissipates. Just because I can’t smell it doesn’t mean it is not there. I don’t advise anyone to do this with alcohol it is a fire hazard.
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We have never successfully developed a vaccine for any coronavirus.

Every other coronavirus we have studied (like the ones that cause common cold) only produces a very short term immunity (~3 months) after recovery from infection - then you are vulnerable to reinfection like anyone else.

This is the most virulent bastard to come our way since the H1N1 influenza in 1918 - not yet as deadly but we’ve only just got started, will likely have a couple of years of this killer striking us down.

How are others *really* coping with the dread? :shrug
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I was searching an on-line Thesaurus for an alternative to "blithering idiocy" and found this:
Do you remember those on the left who said manufacturing is dirty we don’t want that here to let other countries make stuff?
Unfortunately, it's rather too long to use in a coherent sentence.
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BoSoxGal wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:06 am
PBS is streaming the American Experience episode Influenza 1918; it’s excellent.
On September 28, 1918 my maternal grandmother went to a huge war-bonds parade held in Philadelphia. On January 22, 1919 she died of the Spanish flu she contracted at that parade. The parade killed thousands.

Despite dire warnings from the medical community the city thought the patriotism generated by the masses far outweighed the risks of the virus. A miscalculation that has gone down in the annals of history.
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RayThom wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:05 pm
BoSoxGal wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:06 am
PBS is streaming the American Experience episode Influenza 1918; it’s excellent.
On September 28, 1918 my maternal grandmother went to a huge war-bonds parade held in Philadelphia. On January 22, 1919 she died of the Spanish flu she contracted at that parade. The parade killed thousands.

Despite dire warnings from the medical community the city thought the patriotism generated by the masses far outweighed the risks of the virus. A miscalculation that has gone down in the annals of history.
The only personal account I'm aware of was a friend's grandmother that appeared healthy one day, got sick the next day and died overnight. It's strange that your grandmother got the flu at the parade and then survived until she died four months later.

"These men start with what appears to be an ordinary attack of LaGrippe or Influenza, and when brought to the Hosp. they very rapidly develop the most vicious type of Pneumonia that has ever been seen … and a few hours later you can begin to see the Cyanosis extending from their ears and spreading all over the face, until it is hard to distinguish the colored men from the white. It is only a matter of a few hours then until death comes…. It is horrible."

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We have never successfully developed a vaccine for any coronavirus.
True, but then from what I have read, there is no reason to think a vaccine could not be created for this--only that it will take time. Vaccine technology has come a long way in even the last 10 years, and work will proceed as many scientists are diligently working on it.

As for virulence, while covid is more virulent/contagious than seasonal flu, it is an order of magnitude less than other diseases such as measles. Not that this is good news necessarily, because it still can be easily spread, but to show that, like with other dieases that are far worse, the spread can be controlled by responsible measures.

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I guess I’m alone in my dread; fair enough, moving on back to humorous distractions - this Brit family does a good job of reworking a tune from Les Miserables:

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Well, when the dust clears there will be a fairly large number dead, for which the dread is justified; it's not easy to maintain a positive outlook either. And sometimes I feel I'm alone in that, especially since it's likely my younger (well she's in her 20s) has likely contracted it (we won't know until we get a test, and with the testing protocols who knows when that will be? She's self isolating as a precaution, but even in a multi bedrooms house this is not easy, and I'm not sure how effective it will be.

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And of course there are always the Llandudno goats . . .

Gob will tell us how to pronounce Llandudno.


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I guess I’m alone in my dread
Well BSG, my slogan for this has been, "Neither a Cassandra nor a Pollyanna be"...(Darren is clearly our resident Polyanna; I have to say that you frequently seem have the Cassandra bit covered... 8-) )

The available facts and data coming from those with actual expertise suggests that this is a national and global catastrophe, the likes of which none of have seen in our life times (unless you're north of 102)...

But it's not The Zombie Apocalypse...

We will survive this, and emerge intact as a society on the other side of it, (hopefully somewhat wiser for the experience) and it's not unreasonable to believe that if we are patient and act prudently now, (two factors that appear to be improving) economic recovery should be fairly swift when we get through this as well...

Not in mere weeks of course as some suggest, but in months...
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ex-khobar Andy wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:48 pm


Gob will tell us how to pronounce Llandudno.

It's pronounced "Llan-dud-no".

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Lord Jim wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:51 pm
But it's not The Zombie Apocalypse...
Are you positive?

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Big RR, sorry to see that. All good thoughts to you and yours...
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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:45 am
I was searching an on-line Thesaurus for an alternative to "blithering idiocy" and found this:
Do you remember those on the left who said manufacturing is dirty we don’t want that here to let other countries make stuff?
Unfortunately, it's rather too long to use in a coherent sentence.
So you’re saying making stuff in the US is not important. China will sell us what we need or what they think we need at the price they think we should pay. We could do incredible things in manufacturing in WWII because we had the manufacturing-based to do it.
I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

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No, I said nothing about that. I'm saying that your sentence is blithering idiocy.

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