Day 12 in the countdown to an end to the COVID-19 panic.

[Darren]

More happy, happy, joy, joy news. YOU'RE WELCOME!

For extra points, who wrote this? Hint: check the disclosure.

"If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2"

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/N ... d2Li-xXZHs

[BoSoxGal]

Do you REALLY need to start a new thread every freaking day? Especially since it is total and complete bullshit even per your fearless leader?

[Darren]

Do you REALLY need to start a new thread every freaking day? Especially since it is total and complete bullshit even per your fearless leader?

It's a public service to ease minds and quell the panic. It also supports efforts to bring back the endangered toilet paper species.

Toilet paper was always taken for granted until its near disappearance resulted in the gnashing of teeth and ripping of garments. You may continue to panic if you wish.

For reference, CFR is the case fatality rate.

"Although underestimation of CFRs risks the population not taking the threat seriously, overestimation might lead to unnecessary additional panic and concern. During a rapidly evolving pandemic, accurate measures of disease characterisation are important. Future estimates will probably involve patient-specific data for refined calculation. However, the provided CFR estimate of 15·2% for countries outside China might be a premature statistic owing to the limitations of their methods."

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lani ... 6/fulltext

[Lord Jim]

It's a public service to ease minds and quell the panic.

No it just makes you look foolish, and a complete stranger to reality (and/or just a willfully dishonest shill)...

But then a willingness to look foolish, delusional and dishonest is pretty much a prerequisite for being a Trump supporter, so knock yourself out,..

Thank God that you don't have any real influence or your deliberately misleading, out of context cherry picking and flat-out dishonest happy-talk could be getting people killed if they actually listened to you...

[BoSoxGal]

In what reality are 100,000-240,000 dead Americans NO BIG DEAL? Considering that several states - including fucking Florida - still haven't imposed shutdowns and social distancing orders, there is a better than average chance that we will instead suffer 1-2.5 MILLION American deaths.

How the FUCK can you think that's nothing to be upset over? You arrogant piece of shit scumbag.

[Crackpot]

He starts new threads daily so he can easily ignore how the Shiite he posted yesterday has been factually obliterated.

Here’s an encouraging thought based on past experience there is good reason that this self quarantine will be successful. Look how well Trump supporters have managed to isolate themselves from uncomfortable facts over the past 4 years

[Lord Jim]

You arrogant piece of shit scumbag.

I suspect that's precisely the kind of reaction here he's hoping to engender...(hence his sigline)

I don't get the impression that Darren is really stupid or ignorant enough to actually buy the crap he spews here; I've concluded that he's just doing it to provoke and annoy.... it's a form of trolling; (if he insists on starting a new thread for each day of his bogus " panic countdown" he will be spam trolling...)

I for one have decided I won't give him the satisfaction of letting him get under my skin, and simply view his trolling antics with bemusement...

[Big RR]

I agree Jim. BSG, you're never going to change him, so there's no sense in letting his posts raise your blood pressure; either ignorin him or laughing at the posts are the best you can do.

[Darren]

More progress.

"Gov. Gretchen Whitmer drew fire from some on the right after the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs (LARA) sent a letter last week threatening "administrative action" against doctors who prescribed two experimental drugs that could potentially help coronavirus patients.

The Whitmer administration has since removed the language threatening doctors from the letter and is now asking the federal government to send shipments of the drugs, Bridge magazine reports. The Food and Drug Administration issued an emergency authorization for the antimalarial drugs hydroxychloroquine sulfate and chloroquine phosphate on Saturday."

https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/ar ... hloroquine

[BoSoxGal]

Yeah I’ve added him to the ignore list.

[Scooter]

Expressing the same number of dead as a percentage of a larger denominator changes nothing.

Whether it is 1% of 30 million or 0.!% of 300 million, it's still the same 300,000 people who will die.

[Long Run]

No one in my orbit has been in the mood for an April Fools joke.

[Darren]

Conclusion

"Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 7920300996

[Lord Jim]

I was going to post this in Laffs, but then I decided what the hell, might as well put some actually useful information in this otherwise useless thread:

[BoSoxGal]

Brilliant!!

[Lord Jim]

If tomorrow Darren treats us to a brand new thread for "Day 11" of his bogus disinformation "countdown", I think I'll start doing what I did with wes' troll threads...

Populate them with novelty song ditties, parodies, and classic comedy bits...

And of course I invite others to do the same...

[Econoline]

I agree Jim. BSG, you're never going to change him, so there's no sense in letting his posts raise your blood pressure; either ignorin him or laughing at the posts are the best you can do.

I think I've shared this quote here before, but it seems apropos again here:

You cannot reason with unreasonable people...attempting to do so gives you stomach cancer. Point and laugh instead, you feel better and the stupidity then serves a useful purpose.
– Jim Wright (Stonekettle Station) 9/19/13

And what the hell, while we're on the subject...a bonus quote:

When you are dead, you don't know that you are dead. It is difficult only for the others. It is the same when you are stupid.
– Philippe Geluck

[Scooter]

Conclusion

"Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 7920300996

This is the same poorly designed French study that was already critiqued here:

Three statisticians published a review of the French study that argued that the way it was designed made the treatments look better than they actually are. They pointed to the lack of randomization, as well as an inappropriate control group composed partly of people who refused to take the drug. They also noted that the study dropped some patients from the analysis — the small study of 42 patients actually only included data from 36.

“The [French] study gave very little useful information about whether hydroxychloroquine might help,” Morris wrote.

Did you not realize that you were referencing the same study you had already posted about, or did you think no one else would notice?

[Crackpot]

You think he can keep up with his own bullshit? Frankly I’m amazed you can.

[Lord Jim]

He's like a guy with a bunch of paper bags filled with doggie doo, who's lighting them, dropping them on the door step, ringing the door bell, and then running on to the next house to do it again...

And we all know what happens when you attempt to stomp out a flaming bag of dog shit...