Remember that commision that was looking into vote fraud?

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Darren
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Re: Remember that commision that was looking into vote fraud?

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Scooter wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:49 pm
The game was, you point out examples of incompetence and show how cutting staff would result in doing a better job.

Just to refresh your memory so we could avoid several rounds of goalpost moving in trying to get there.
An immediate target for remediation is the CDC. Want to talk about them first rather than read about a lot of Navy screw ups?
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If you can explain how cutting their staff will make them more effective, I'm all ears.
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Scooter wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:03 pm
If you can explain how cutting their staff will make them more effective, I'm all ears.
As far as cutting staff, I'd fire every out of the 11,000 employees involved in studying firearms as a disease. That's unacceptable mission creep.

Are they also studying fatalities in auto accidents? Maybe they should study texting as an addiction. Perhaps we should ban smart phones if the CDC finds sufficient causation.

For sure I'd fire everyone that screwed up the early test kits that were made in a lab that didn't meet the CDC's own standards. Who made the decision to make test kits in the same lab they were studying the virus?
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So your answer to "explain how cutting their staff will make them more effective" is "I can't".

Thanks for playing. You can pick up your parting gifts on the way out.
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Scooter wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:15 pm
So your answer to "explain how cutting their staff will make them more effective" is "I can't".

Thanks for playing. You can pick up your parting gifts on the way out.
I classify employees.

The best are those that know what needs to be done, goes and does it, and doesn't require supervision.

The worst is the one that has to be told what has to be done, how to do it and still fails requiring you to do the work yourself. That's inefficiency.

Anything unsatisfactory that wastes time like the CDC test kits and has national ramifications is obviously ineffective.

Unless there's a compelling reason why not, anyone associated with the failure should be fired if their decisions played a part in creating the failure. IOW the inefficiency (creation of the bad test kits) caused the delay in addressing the pandemic.

"Still, the three-week delay caused by the C.D.C.’s failure to get working test kits into the hands of the public-health labs came at a crucial time. In the early stages of an outbreak, contact tracing, isolation, and individual quarantines are regularly deployed to contain the spread of a disease.

But these tools are useless if suspected cases of a disease cannot be tested. The void created by the C.D.C.’s faulty tests made it impossible for public-health authorities to get an accurate picture of how far and how fast the disease was spreading."

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-des ... -in-the-us
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So your answer to "explain how cutting their staff will make them more effective" is "I can't".
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Re: Remember that commision that was looking into vote fraud?

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Darren wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:13 pm
Scooter wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:03 pm
If you can explain how cutting their staff will make them more effective, I'm all ears.
As far as cutting staff, I'd fire every out of the 11,000 employees involved in studying firearms as a disease. That's unacceptable mission creep.

Are they also studying fatalities in auto accidents? Maybe they should study texting as an addiction. Perhaps we should ban smart phones if the CDC finds sufficient causation.

For sure I'd fire everyone that screwed up the early test kits that were made in a lab that didn't meet the CDC's own standards. Who made the decision to make test kits in the same lab they were studying the virus?
Well yes they do study auto and aviation accidents. Where did you get the number of 11,000 studying firearms? According to Federalpay.org they had 10,796 total employees in 2018.

As far as screw-ups relating to the early test kits, I'll wait until there is an enquiry. I'm curious to know who made the decision to make our own US-based test rather than ask those who obviously had a functioning test (e.g., the Germans, the S Koreans) if they could send us the details, please? You need three things for those tests: the swab kits (essentially a Q-tip inside a sterile plastic tube with some simple reservation chemicals); a PCR machine (invented in the US by Karey Mullis); and some primers - easy to make and commonplace once you have the sequence.

Edited once to corrrect a typo.

Edited again to correct another typoo.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thever ... nih-dickey

Congress just allocated funding to CDC/NIH to fund studies of gun violence in late December 2019; only someone entirely unfamiliar with how government grants processes work would try to argue that there are 11,000+ people studying gun violence via CDC funding in April 2020. I’d be surprised if they’ve even issued one grant award yet, given the agencies have both been scrambling to address coronavirus issues and the process to put out a call for grants, receive, review and award grants generally take several months. The studies, by the way, will largely be conducted by research groups affiliated with universities and nonprofits- not conducted in-house. And $25 million doesn’t go a really long way.
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Apparently Darren's version of a more effective CDC is to fire, well, everybody.
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Perhaps Darren could give us, well, maybe just *ONE* example of Trump firing someone for incompetence and then replacing them with someone who is MORE competent* ???




* (as opposed to replacing them with someone who's simply more willing to kiss Trump's ass) (or just leaving the position open forever)
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Maybe he could find us a unicorn and a mermaid, too.....
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