The Countdown to the restart of the economy has begun.

[BoSoxGal]

As the antibody tests become more available the numbers of previously exposed people will jump. Herd immunity already exists.

Thereby exhibiting he is a total moron with zero understanding of herd immunity.

[Bicycle Bill]

I appreciate the point you were making and do not doubt for a minute that you intend criticism of politicians trying to get things moving in the USA by reversing course too soon and/or inappropriately. It wouldn't hurt for you to acknowledge that there is another way of looking at the same facts, depending on what one wants to make out of them. And it doesn't bother me if you don't either.

I leave aside the Gettysburg controversy as having been satisfactorily understood by most historians in favor of Meade and the Army of the Potomac

Sounds good to me, Meade; I will agree that there are alternate viewpoints.  As the old saying goes, "it all depends on whose ox is being gored."  My hand on it; shake, and we'll both agree to come out fighting another day.

-"BB"-

[MajGenl.Meade]

[rubato]

Hey Darren Drink Lysol or shut the fuck up

[Lord Jim]

The cost of these insane early "reopenings":

Trump administration projects about 3,000 coronavirus deaths per day by June, New York Times says

An analysis prepared by several Trump administration departments projects that the number of coronavirus deaths will increase to about 3,000 each day by early June, The New York Times reported Monday, citing an internal report.

The interagency report from the U.S. departments of Homeland Security, and Health and Human Services, also reportedly forecasts that the U.S. will see about 200,000 new Covid-19 cases each day by the end of this month.

The sobering projections come as President Donald Trump has pushed to start reopening the country, and expressed support for protesters against state restrictions on businesses and social gatherings in the face of the coronavirus outbreak.

Does anyone seriously believe that the tiny bit of increased economic activity brought on by these murderous re-openings (and every indication is it will be tiny indeed; all the polls show that by overwhelmingly margins that the American people are more concerned about the threat to their health than they are about the economy. It won't matter how many businesses you re-open if customers wont show up) will out weigh the political downside of these types of death toll numbers?

In the end, this desperat4 gambit of Trump's' to improve his re-election prospects at the expense of the well being of the American people will fail utterly; at the cost of of tens of thousands more needless deaths...

[Darren]

The cost of these insane early "reopenings":

Trump administration projects about 3,000 coronavirus deaths per day by June, New York Times says

An analysis prepared by several Trump administration departments projects that the number of coronavirus deaths will increase to about 3,000 each day by early June, The New York Times reported Monday, citing an internal report.

Does anyone seriously believe that the tiny bit of increased economic activity brought on by these murderous re-openings (and every indication is it will be tiny indeed; all the polls show that by overwhelmingly margins that the American people are more concerned about the threat to their health than they are about the economy. It won't matter how many businesses you re-open if customers wont show up) will out weigh the political downside of these types of death toll numbers?

In the end, this desperat4 gambit of Trump's' to improve his re-election prospects at the expense of the well being of the American people will fail utterly; at the cost of of tens of thousands more needless deaths.

_______________________________________________________________________________________

There you go with the polls again. Didn't you learn anything from 2016? I'll cut you a break but not after 2016 since even Clinton was shocked.

The lockdown is a constant topic wherever I go.

I've yet to meet anyone pissing their pants over the mediademic. Instead among the so-called worker class I'm seeing people pissed at the fearmongering and some governors. That includes truck drivers, retail workers, construction workers, etc.

With one exception in the last century, I've never been called for a poll.

Based on the internals of the political polls I've seen, I'm wondering about the "non-political ones."

[Darren]

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[RayThom]

Darren, are you now repeating your larger posts in the same thread to make up for Gob's warning not to keep starting new threads?

That will teach us to stop ignoring you.

Darren and Donald sitting in a tree... K.I.S.S.I.N.G ass.

[Darren]

Darren, are you now repeating your larger posts in the same thread to make up for Gob's warning not to keep starting new threads?

That will teach us to stop ignoring you.

Darren and Donald sitting in a tree... K.I.S.S.I.N.G ass.

That's what happens when you take a quick shot.

[Lord Jim]

Il Boobce's hero and role model...

[Scooter]

[Lord Jim]

[Scooter]

More "very good people":

A security guard is shot and killed after telling customer to put on a face mask

A security guard at a Family Dollar store in Flint, Michigan, was shot and killed after telling a customer to wear a state-mandated face mask, police said.

Calvin Munerlyn, 43, died at a local hospital after he was shot in the head Friday, said Michigan State Police Lt. David Kaiser.

The shooter and a second suspect remain at large, Kaiser told CNN on Monday.

Witnesses at the store told police that Munerlyn got into a verbal altercation with a woman because she was not wearing a mask, said Genesee County prosecutor David Leyton. Surveillance video confirms the incident, Leyton said.

Under an executive order from Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, all retail employees and customers have to wear a mask.

Footage also shows that immediately after the altercation, the woman left in an SUV. But about 20 minutes later, the SUV returned.

Two men entered the store and one of them yelled at Munerlyn about disrespecting his wife, Leyton said. The other man then shot the security guard.

"This is senseless. Over a mask. Over a mask?" Munerlyn's cousin, Tina James, told CNN affiliate WJRT. "This is not the way to do things right now. We need to come together."

Family Dollar did not respond to a request for comment.

[Darren]

That an extreme act just because someone disrespected your wife.

[rubato]

"Herd immunity" refers to a condition where enough members of a community are immune to prevent an infection from spreading. For many diseases this is 83-94% of the population. For some diseases, like measles, the percentage is higher.

The term is stupidly misused by Trupianistas and other rw delusionals (like Victor Davis Hanson).

yrs,
rubato

[Darren]

"A French hospital that retested old samples from pneumonia patients has discovered that it treated a man with the coronavirus as early as 27 December, nearly a month before the French government confirmed its first cases.

Dr Yves Cohen, head of resuscitation at the Avicenne and Jean Verdier hospitals in the northern suburbs of Paris, told BFM TV that scientists had retested samples from 24 patients treated in December and January who tested negative for flu.

“Of the 24, we had one who was positive for Covid-19 on 27 December,” he told the news channel on Sunday."

[Bicycle Bill]

More "very good people":

A security guard is shot and killed after telling customer to put on a face mask

A security guard at a Family Dollar store in Flint, Michigan, was shot and killed after telling a customer to wear a state-mandated face mask, police said.

Calvin Munerlyn, 43, died at a local hospital after he was shot in the head Friday, said Michigan State Police Lt. David Kaiser.

The shooter and a second suspect remain at large, Kaiser told CNN on Monday.

Witnesses at the store told police that Munerlyn got into a verbal altercation with a woman because she was not wearing a mask, said Genesee County prosecutor David Leyton. Surveillance video confirms the incident, Leyton said.

Under an executive order from Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, all retail employees and customers have to wear a mask.

Footage also shows that immediately after the altercation, the woman left in an SUV. But about 20 minutes later, the SUV returned.

Two men entered the store and one of them yelled at Munerlyn about disrespecting his wife, Leyton said. The other man then shot the security guard.

"This is senseless. Over a mask. Over a mask?" Munerlyn's cousin, Tina James, told CNN affiliate WJRT. "This is not the way to do things right now. We need to come together."

Family Dollar did not respond to a request for comment.

The suspects —

44-year-old Larry Teague Jr., left, and 23-year-old Ramonyea Bishop are wanted
for the shooting death of a Family Dollar security guard over a face mask dispute.

The two men, along with 45-year-old Sharmel Teague, identified as Teague's wife and Bishop's mother, are facing charges of first-degree premeditated murder, which carries a mandatory sentence of life in prison with no chance of parole if they are convicted.  In addition, the two men also face various weapons charges; Ms. Teague, who has been arrested, also faces a charge of violating Gov. Whitmer's order to wear face coverings in enclosed public spaces.

Not being racist; just reporting the facts.

-"BB"-

[Scooter]

More "very good people":

SAN DIEGO MAN WEARS KKK HOOD TO SUPERMARKET AFTER COUNTY ORDERS PUBLIC TO WEAR FACE MASKS

Officials have condemned a man in California who was pictured wearing a makeshift Ku Klux Klan hood while shopping at a supermarket.

Pictures of the man wearing a white hood similar to one worn by the hate group at a Vons store in Santee, San Diego emerged on social media over the weekend.

The incident occurred one day after San Diego imposed a new health order requiring everyone to cover their faces in public if they come within six feet of another person or whenever they enter a place of business from May 1 to help stop the spread of the coronavirus.

"Don't know which angers me more—the person wearing this or the fact that no one in management @Vons Santee did anything about it.," Tammy Gillies, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League of San Diego, tweeted while sharing pictures of the man in the hood. "@ADL_SD⁩ would be happy to educate your team. San Diego is #NoPlaceForHate."

San Diego County Supervisor Dianne Jacob added: "The images I've seen are abhorrent. This blatant racism has no place in Santee or any part of San Diego County. It is not who we are. It is not what we stand for and can't be tolerated."

The man reportedly refused to take off his hood after being confronted by others at the store until he went to go pay for his items at the checkout.

In a statement condemning the incident, Santee Mayor John Minto said. "The citizens and Vons employees took steps to address the situation. Many thanks to all who stepped forward to curtail this sad reminder of intolerance. Santee, its leaders, and I will not tolerate such behavior. Santee and its citizens are great, and this particular individual's actions are not representative of us as a people and a wonderful city."

Melissa Hill, spokeswoman for Albertsons Companies, which owns the supermarket chain, told Patch: "At Vons, fostering an environment of courtesy, dignity, and respect is one of our highest priorities, and we work hard to hold everyone in our stores to these standards, including customers."

"Unfortunately, an alarming and isolated incident occurred at our Vons store in Santee, where a customer chose an inflammatory method of wearing a face covering. Needless to say, it was shocking. Several members of our team asked the customer to remove it, and all requests were ignored until the customer was in the checkout area."

San Diego Police have been contacted for comment.

The city of Santee has a known history of white supremacist activity and racially motivated attacks, earning it the nickname "Klantee."

Perhaps the most well known incident occurred in 1998 where five white men broke a black Marine's neck and left him paralyzed after attacking him at a party while allegedly shouting "white power."

[Darren]

More "very good people":

A security guard is shot and killed after telling customer to put on a face mask

A security guard at a Family Dollar store in Flint, Michigan, was shot and killed after telling a customer to wear a state-mandated face mask, police said.

Calvin Munerlyn, 43, died at a local hospital after he was shot in the head Friday, said Michigan State Police Lt. David Kaiser.

The shooter and a second suspect remain at large, Kaiser told CNN on Monday.

Witnesses at the store told police that Munerlyn got into a verbal altercation with a woman because she was not wearing a mask, said Genesee County prosecutor David Leyton. Surveillance video confirms the incident, Leyton said.

Under an executive order from Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, all retail employees and customers have to wear a mask.

Footage also shows that immediately after the altercation, the woman left in an SUV. But about 20 minutes later, the SUV returned.

Two men entered the store and one of them yelled at Munerlyn about disrespecting his wife, Leyton said. The other man then shot the security guard.

"This is senseless. Over a mask. Over a mask?" Munerlyn's cousin, Tina James, told CNN affiliate WJRT. "This is not the way to do things right now. We need to come together."

Family Dollar did not respond to a request for comment.

The suspects —

44-year-old Larry Teague Jr., left, and 23-year-old Ramonyea Bishop are wanted
for the shooting death of a Family Dollar security guard over a face mask dispute.

The two men, along with 45-year-old Sharmel Teague, identified as Teague's wife and Bishop's mother, are facing charges of first-degree premeditated murder, which carries a mandatory sentence of life in prison with no chance of parole if they are convicted.  In addition, the two men also face various weapons charges; Ms. Teague, who has been arrested, also faces a charge of violating Gov. Whitmer's order to wear face coverings in enclosed public spaces.

Not being racist; just reporting the facts.

-"BB"-

According to Scooter, "More "very good people":" I guess they won't be voting for Trump. Oh wait! Blacks don't vote for Trump anyway.

[Scooter]

They seem like Diamond & Silk-level trash, so wouldn't surprise me to learn they are Trump voters.

The doofus in the KKK hood is pure MAGAt.