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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 1:50 pm
Yeah, we get it. Mr Arbery's killers are innocent because Trayvon.
Rush to judgement much?

The question is whether Mr. Arbery's death was a justified killing or murder. I don't know at this point. The fact that Mr. Arbery may have a criminal past may or may not be relevant.

Trayvon Martin's death was due to a coward, Zimmerman, not holding out during the beating for the few more minutes it took for the cops to arrive. Martin would have been charged with battery and lived. None of it would have made national or international news.

I don't know what went through Zimmerman's mind. I'm not sure if they grappled for Zimmerman's gun. I do know the 9mm was fired once and not the several times you'd think if a hate crime was in progress.

The bullet disabled both lungs and the heart. Trayon was able to say some last words, fell over unconscious and died immediately. The autopsy report used to be accessible via the internet.
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Darren wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 12:52 pm
Back to the late Trayvon Martin.
NO! Let's not. You're just being silly now.

What purpose does that serve other than voicing your brand of racism, and skewed politics leanings?
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RayThom wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 2:41 pm
Darren wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 12:52 pm
Back to the late Trayvon Martin.
NO! Let's not. You're just being silly now.

What purpose does that serve other than voicing your brand of racism, and skewed politics leanings?
I'll ask again, Ray why didn't Obama's DOJ pursue federal charges? Are you saying the DOJ was racist?

What do you know that Eric Holder did not?


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Tuesday, February 24, 2015
Federal Officials Close Investigation Into Death of Trayvon Martin

The Justice Department announced today that the independent federal investigation found insufficient evidence to pursue federal criminal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman for the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin on Feb. 26, 2012, in Sanford, Florida. Prosecutors from the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, officials from the FBI, and the Justice Department’s Community Relations Service met today with Martin’s family and their representatives to inform them of the findings of the investigation and the decision.

“The death of Trayvon Martin was a devastating tragedy. It shook an entire community, drew the attention of millions across the nation, and sparked a painful but necessary dialogue throughout the country,” said Attorney General Eric Holder.
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Darren wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 2:53 pm
RayThom wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 2:41 pm
Darren wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 12:52 pm
Back to the late Trayvon Martin.
NO! Let's not. You're just being silly now.

What purpose does that serve other than voicing your brand of racism, and skewed politics leanings?
I'll ask again, Ray why didn't Obama's DOJ pursue federal charges? Are you saying the DOJ was racist?

What do you know that Eric Holder did not?


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Tuesday, February 24, 2015
Federal Officials Close Investigation Into Death of Trayvon Martin

The Justice Department announced today that the independent federal investigation found insufficient evidence to pursue federal criminal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman for the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin on Feb. 26, 2012, in Sanford, Florida. Prosecutors from the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, officials from the FBI, and the Justice Department’s Community Relations Service met today with Martin’s family and their representatives to inform them of the findings of the investigation and the decision.

“The death of Trayvon Martin was a devastating tragedy. It shook an entire community, drew the attention of millions across the nation, and sparked a painful but necessary dialogue throughout the country,” said Attorney General Eric Holder.
Wow! That sure looks like something, Darren.
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Darren wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 2:30 pm
The question is whether Mr. Arbery's death was a justified killing or murder.
Yeah, we get it. Whenever a black dude out running is chased down by two white dudes in a truck and they shoot him . . . hey, maybe they had a license or something
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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 3:01 pm
Darren wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 2:30 pm
The question is whether Mr. Arbery's death was a justified killing or murder.
Yeah, we get it. Whenever a black dude out running is chased down by two white dudes in a truck and they shoot him . . . hey, maybe they had a license or something
The video shows Mr. Arbery running up to the pickup truck and the father and son. IOW, Arbery was not chased down. Watch the video for yourself. You can see two men grappling after Arbery ran in front of the parked truck.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/vid ... l-n1201301
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Darren wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 4:46 pm
MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 3:01 pm
Darren wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 2:30 pm
The question is whether Mr. Arbery's death was a justified killing or murder.
Yeah, we get it. Whenever a black dude out running is chased down by two white dudes in a truck and they shoot him . . . hey, maybe they had a license or something
The video shows Mr. Arbery running up to the pickup truck and the father and son. IOW, Arbery was not chased down. Watch the video for yourself. You can see two men grappling after Arbery ran in front of the parked truck.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/vid ... l-n1201301
Watch your own video yourself. The commentary clearly states that the two men "chased after him". They overtook him and stopped. Then (the only reasonable surmise) one of them in front of the by now parked truck ahead of Arbery, holding a shotgun, challenged Arbery who tried to wrestle the gun away OR stop himself from being shot OR both. And the racist bastard, who had the shotgun, shot him with the shotgun.

And you noted (of course) what I believe is the case; that the video was recorded by someone who knew what was going to go down. "Hey, lookit that n****** runnin'. You'm betcha he done robbed suthin'. Let's chase after him, Bo and you follow behin' us."
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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 4:54 pm
Watch your own video yourself. The commentary clearly states that the two men "chased after him". They overtook him and stopped. Then (the only reasonable surmise) one of them in front of the by now parked truck ahead of Arbery, holding a shotgun, challenged Arbery who tried to wrestle the gun away OR stop himself from being shot OR both. And the racist bastard, who had the shotgun, shot him with the shotgun.

And you noted (of course) what I believe is the case; that the video was recorded by someone who knew what was going to go down. "Hey, lookit that n****** runnin'. You'm betcha he done robbed suthin'. Let's chase after him, Bo and you follow behin' us."
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If you can handle Tommy Sotomayor's language, here's his comments along with a video of Arbery in the house under construction. Sotomayor uses the video to show Arbery isn't wearing socks while he was out jogging, what was it, 40 miles?

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And having mused for a bit before deciding on which way to go, Darren has settled on a "the fucking n-gg-r was a criminal who deserved what he got" narrative.
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Scooter wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 5:08 pm
And having mused for a bit before deciding on which way to go, Darren has settled on a "the fucking n-gg-r was a criminal who deserved what he got" narrative.
Check out Sotomayer's video and comments. Otherwise you're talking out your ass.

The question now is did he attack the father and try to take the shotgun away. If you watch the video you can decide for yourself.

The father retired as an investigator and had previous experience with Arbery, Did Arbery recognize the father?

Rather than he got what he deserved I'd classify it as a fatal attack of dumb assery. Taking a shotgun away from an ex-police officer isn't something I'd do.
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Don't you have a cross burning to get to after you pick up your hooded sheet at the cleaners?
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Scooter wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 5:21 pm
Don't you have a cross burning to get to after you pick up your hooded sheet at the cleaners?
Scooter, I form opinions about people on what I directly experience and for others what I can dig out. I don't accept broad brush discriminatory categorization.

That's why I don't believe all Canadians are clueless, virtue signaling, prejudiced individuals.
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By the same token, I don't imagine all Americans to be card carrying KKK members who enjoyed breeding with their sisters so much in their youth, that no relationship ever since has measured up.
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And you're probably not using the term "virtue signalling" anywhere near enough to earn your pay at the Breitbart troll farm.
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Michelle Amor:
Black people are so tired. 😓

We can’t go jogging (#AhmaudArbery).

We can’t relax in the comfort of our own homes (#BothemJean and #AtatianaJefferson).

We can't ask for help after being in a car crash (#JonathanFerrell and #Renisha McBride).

We can't have a cellphone (#StephonClark).

We can't leave a party to get to safety (#JordanEdwards).

We can't play loud music (#JordanDavis).

We can’t sell CD's (#AltonSterling).

We can’t sleep (#AiyanaJones)

We can’t walk from the corner store (#MikeBrown).

We can’t play cops and robbers (#TamirRice).

We can’t go to church (#Charleston9).

We can’t walk home with Skittles (#TrayvonMartin).

We can’t hold a hair brush while leaving our own bachelor party (#SeanBell).

We can’t party on New Years (#OscarGrant).

We can’t get a normal traffic ticket (#SandraBland).

We can’t lawfully carry a weapon (#PhilandoCastile).

We can't break down on a public road with car problems (#CoreyJones).

We can’t shop at Walmart (#JohnCrawford) .

We can’t have a disabled vehicle (#TerrenceCrutcher).

We can’t read a book in our own car (#Keith Scott).

We can’t be a 10yr old walking with our grandfather (#CliffordGlover).

We can’t decorate for a party (#ClaudeReese).

We can’t ask a cop a question (#RandyEvans).

We can’t cash our check in peace (#YvonneSmallwood).

We can’t take out our wallet (#AmadouDiallo).

We can’t run (#WalterScott).

We can’t breathe (#EricGarner).

We can’t live (#FreddieGray).

We’re tired.

Tired of making hashtags.

Tired of trying to convince you that our #BlackLivesMatter too.

Tired of dying.

Tired.

Tired.

Tired.

So very tired.

(I don’t know who created this. I edited it to update it but would like to credit the original author if anyone knows.)
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Oh, no, Darren's doppelgänger has emerged from a Lysol overdose.

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RayThom wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 12:45 am
Oh, no, Darren's doppelgänger has emerged from a Lysol overdose.

I bet you didn't know slow Joe Biden was a child actor. Actually he didn't need to act.
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