Maybe NOW we can stop fighting the Civil War?

[Joe Guy]

If Juneteenth becomes a State holiday in New York, will white people get the day off?

[BoSoxGal]

Fucking stupid comments.

[Joe Guy]

Like my father used to say, “if you don’t have anything good to say, fuck you”.

[BoSoxGal]

[MajGenl.Meade]

I found this one a bit scary - so many ways to interpret it.

[MajGenl.Meade]

A common misconception is that this day marks the end of slavery in the United States. Although this day marks the emancipation of all slaves in the Confederacy, the institution of slavery was still legal and existed in the Union border states after June 19, 1865. Slavery in the United States did not officially end until the ratification of the 13th amendment to the Constitution of the United States on December 6, 1865, which abolished slavery entirely in all of the U.S. states and territories

It's an official holiday in Texas since 1980 (as "Emancipation Day") which is where it originated. Since Texas itself was largely a backwater in the Rebellion, Union troops and news didn't get there all that urgently. On June 19th 1865, a Union general finally showed up and announced the news that the Emancipation proclamation (and the by-now existence of Federal forces in Texas sufficient to make it stick) meant that all slaves in territory NOT occupied by Union troops (such as Texas) had been free since January 1, 1863. (More exact detail below).

In fact, I find "Juneteenth" to be a vaguely demeaning celebration. All it marks is that some few slaves learned something inadequate but significant had happened two years earlier and had a very local party each year. Black slaves emancipated themselves in their thousands, voting with their feet, their bodies and their very lives to fight the slave-ocracy that was the South. Celebrating the Emancipation proclamation is also bogus. But it's not up to me to decide what black people want to celebrate - it's theirs. It's not a white thing. So happy day today!

Who wasn't free:

the Emancipation Proclamation was limited in many ways. It applied only to states that had seceded from the United States, leaving slavery untouched in the loyal border states. It also expressly exempted parts of the Confederacy (the Southern secessionist states) that had already come under Northern control. Most important, the freedom it promised depended upon Union (United States) military victory.

https://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featu ... oclamation

[Gob]

Cracker Jack Changes Name To More Politically Correct Caucasian Jack

I was put on a temporary ban by Facebook the other day, I posted a cricket video with the the title "this is a cracker!"

I had to point out to them, that not everybody speaks that debased tongue, laughingly known as American "English"!

[Scooter]

[Long Run]

Yes, because the lost causers succeeded in persuading northern folks to use the pussy-footing, bum-kissing term that THEY invented. That's no reason to continue kowtowing to Southern "we wuz right" mentality.

Fletcher : He's has got the first move. And I'd tell him.

Josey Wales : What's that?

Fletcher : That the war is over.

[Long Run]

Did you ever see the film Repo Man? This was a low-key running gag...

...topped off when the protagonist goes to his parents' home to ask for some money, opens a kitchen cabinet, takes down a can of generically labelled "FOOD", opens the can, and starts scarfing it down.

The life of Repo Man is always intense.

[Big RR]

LR--The war is over? As we learned in Vietnam, there is a big difference between superiority on the battlefield/even winning battles and winning hearts and minds. If you don't win the latter, the war will never be over; but it's the hardest part to win.

[RayThom]

How about eliminating Chef Boyardee, an Italian stereotype and offensive to all people of Italian descent? Especially if they eat the product...

You got that right.

My mom always seemed to stock at least a few of the Boyz surprise recipes-in-a-can. I moved out of my parents house in '72. I have NEVER purchased a single can of this crap, and it will never darken my food cabinet.

Don't hold me to this, but I think I'd rather starve. Nasty.

[Crackpot]

The beef ravioli is a guilty pleasure of mine. Reminds me of being young and free of responsibility and consequences

[BoSoxGal]

How about eliminating Chef Boyardee, an Italian stereotype and offensive to all people of Italian descent? Especially if they eat the product...

You got that right.

My mom always seemed to stock at least a few of the Boyz surprise recipes-in-a-can. I moved out of my parents house in '72. I have NEVER purchased a single can of this crap, and it will never darken my food cabinet.

Don't hold me to this, but I think I'd rather starve. Nasty.

I can SO relate! My mother fed us Chefboyardee in my childhood and it was years into my adulthood before I learned to love real Italian food.

Now one of my go-to meals when I’m too lazy to cook anything elaborate and craving carbs is some al dente angel hair run through with Sophia pesto, garnished with toasted pine nuts, fresh medley tomatoes and a blend of shredded Asiago, fontina, Parmesan and provolone cheeses.

I even eat ravioli these days, but it’s gourmet fresh or frozen that I find various places - I’ve got some pear & Gorgonzola ravioli and some mushroom truffle ravioli in the freezer right now - one of Aldi’s brands, very good and very inexpensive. I know it’s best when totally fresh, but I don’t have the space or patience for making my own pasta.

[Big RR]

I recall seeing the real Chef Boyardee on a TV show when I was pretty young; as I recall, he was a chef in and owned Italian restaurant in the US and sold his name and likeness to promote the canned pastas. I recall liking them as a kid, but after I ate a number of C Rations in the army (the spaghetti tasted exactly the same as the Chef Boyardee one) , I can't stand them anymore. My kids did love Spaghettios, but I think they were Franco American, not Chef Boyardee (but I doubt much difference--kind of like La Choy and Chun King canned Chinese food.

Here's a link to the Chef:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ettore_Boiardi

[RayThom]

The question remains, was he a real chef or just an impasta?

Regardless, I see the Chef pasta way on June 21, 1985.

To keep this thread on track -- I wonder if Hector favored the Union Army or the CSA?

[Big RR]

He's probably have sold rations to both sides, or at least the highest bidder.

[Bicycle Bill]

I recall seeing the real Chef Boyardee on a TV show when I was pretty young; as I recall, he was a chef in and owned Italian restaurant in the US and sold his name and likeness to promote the canned pastas. I recall liking them as a kid, but after I ate a number of C Rations in the army (the spaghetti tasted exactly the same as the Chef Boyardee one) , I can't stand them anymore. My kids did love Spaghettios, but I think they were Franco American, not Chef Boyardee (but I doubt much difference--kind of like La Choy and Chun King canned Chinese food.

Here's a link to the Chef:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ettore_Boiardi

If you check the Wikipedia entry for "Chey Boyardee" (the company, not the man himself) you will find this"

The U.S. military commissioned the company during World War II for the production of army rations, requiring the factory to run 24 hours a day.  At its peak, the company employed approximately 5,000 workers and produced 250,000 cans per day.

So, yeah, the canned spaghetti you had in your C-rats were probably the same stuff you had been eating as a kid, merely packed in an O-D can and labeled "meal, combat, individual, spaghetti w/beef chunks in sauce".

-"BB"-

[Joe Guy]

Okay, now that you've got all that Boyardee stuff settled, I knew he was a real chef because I looked him up before making my early comment that his image on his product is offensive to Italians. Or at least offensive to Italians that are of the same kind of victim mentality of all the other victim mentality people.

Are we supposed to believe that every Italian chef looks like that guy and they are so ashamed of their Italian name that they need to use "Americanized" names? In other words, we're supposed to accept that the Italian image on Chef Boyardee cans are a representation of all Italians and the only good Italian is an Americanized Italian who eats canned spaghetti?

I'm boycotting Chef Boyardee products, which means I shall continue to have never eaten the product. I apologize to all Italians and support the idea of Octoberteenth Day, which should replace Columbus Day and take place on October 19th. This will give everyone (especially the Woke people) the choice to feel sorry for Italians rather than slam them for what Columbus did - or both. That's what America is all about; Equal rights to be offended or not. God bless the United States of America.....

[RayThom]

I see where the citizens of Milton PA want to tear down the Chef's statue because he may have been born on Columbus' birthday.